Tag: United States Secret Service

Hearsay, For Sure

Human nature will invariably draw us to any bit of info or media that reinforces any preconceived notions we have, about anything. It validates what we already know, or think we know, and makes us feel better about our analytical skills. In this vein, and admitting up front that it offers zero probative value, I present this:

The reason we exclude “Hearsay” assertions in courts of law is simple, they are unreliable, and in this video it is possible that what he is saying is 100% accurate, or it could be entirely made up. But is there anyone here who down deep was not nodding through out, saying to himself ,”Figures”? I’ll put it this way, it is consistent with other stuff I have read about how the various presidents have treated those tasked with protecting them. And whatever truth lies in the depictions, it speaks directly to the character and integrity of our leaders, who we hope are worthy of the job.

Tacoma Terrorist?

Think you got what it takes to be a Secret Service agent? It takes more than just looking good in a suit and sunglasses (oh, and talking into your hand, gotta do that). They have a unique mission:

The mission of the United States Secret Service is to safeguard the nation’s financial infrastructure and payment systems to preserve the integrity of the economy, and to protect national leaders, visiting heads of state and government, designated sites and National Special Security Events.

Gee, nowhere in that description does it mention anything about roughing up and scaring the bejesus out of 13 year old kids:

Who wants to get a call like this?

When Timi Robertson found out her middle-schooler son was being questioned by the Secret Service and the police at his Tacoma, Wa. school, she says she “just about lost it,” — especially after they told her it was over a Facebook post the boy had written warning President Barack Obama of suicide attacks in the wake of Osama bin Laden’s death.

It’s a short article so you can read the whole thing.

I doubt the Facebook comment is still up, but according to the boy ,”I was saying how Osama is dead and for Obama to be careful because there might be suicide bombers”, hey, give him props for getting the names right, most people interchange the two regularly.

So we have federal agents scouring the net for threats against the president, sounds reasonable, that is after all their job, to protect him. But does that statement resemble anything that could be construed as a threat? Now I don’t do Facebook (they are going to have to drag me into the 21st century kicking and screaming) but I assume that the kids profile is right there, 13 years old. Maybe some cursory checking up on the kid might be in order, you think they did a background check on him first before yanking him out of class?

As usual when you have two sides of a story (the schools and the mothers) the truth lies somewhere in the middle, but I’m thinking its real close to the mother’s side, and miles from that of the schools.

In California when the police have any contact with a minor, the parents have to be contacted immediately and a Miranda admonishment must be given. With adults Miranda is only invoked when you are considered a suspect but for children, it is for anything, no exceptions. I’m wondering if Vito was Mirandized. It also sounds like the school was negligent in contacting a parent and having them present before any questioning commenced, very bad. If I was the mom, I would be going to the school board for some answers.

I know, it’s all Obama’s fault. Now that that is out of the way, I gotta say, this really looks bad. I know I was making the point in the other thread that mistakes happen, but this is one big honkin’ Mt. Everest size mistake. Further clarification, explanation, and some contrition is in order, and begs the question ,”What are those guys doing over there?”