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    • On Israel and Hamas Again, CM said:
      Lucky that no one has done that then, isn’t it. Except you've done it consistently. In just this thread alone: You think just because 4 million were systemically exterminated, the whole world is gonna stop hatin’ Jews? lol. The whole world doesn't hate Jews. As for those on the Left who aren’t anti-Semites (and a lot of them are, and there are indeed many on the British right, sadly, the older generations of Tories) – well, the Left love their fake victims. It’s a no-brainer. Provide evidence which backs up this claim that a lot on the left are anti-Semites. That's the sort of serious accusation that should come with evidence. Otherwise it's just laziness. @Iconoclast What’s interesting about antisemitism is it isn’t really like racism. In response to Iconclast's response to MrPlume, implying that MrPlume is an anti-Semite. They cannot accept that their beef with Israel is purely becase they’re Jewish You can infer that the protesters have no problem, and, well, you can infer the logical reason behind that. Very clearly you cannot conceive of criticism of Israel that doesn't come from antisemitism. Part and parcel of living in the bubble.
      Posted Jul 29, 2014
    • On Israel and Hamas Again, Poosh said:
      "That is disgusting, but it’s not right to be lazy and tar all those who criticise Israel’s actions with the same brush." Lucky that no one has done that then, isn't it.
      Posted Jul 29, 2014
    • On “Liking” The IDF, mrblume said:
      What are you smoking, Blume? Is it worth it to destroy any chance at rational cognition? First, I would suggest you read the Farsi version of that article. Second, if the US introduces 15-minute marriages as in Iran, which absolutely do exist under the eyes of the law, I will give them, for the purposes of this discussion, credit for legal prostitution. Third, I do give you credit for about three brothels in Nevada, in a midst of 4 million sq miles of, what did we call it?, medieval morality - just not a lot.
      Posted Jul 29, 2014
    • On Want Help? Ask Conservatives, richtaylor365 said:
      Many crimes do not require the element of mens rea (drunk driving for instance), this is really no different from my heroin example, legal where I live but not where I travel. Under NJ law, there are exemptions for transporting weapons (for example, if you are going to a firing range and they are unloaded) The same in California, but they must be in plain sight (not concealed) and not loaded. She made a big mistake but where we all agree is that this should have been handled differently. A more seasoned cop would have made the weapon NJ complaint (unloaded it) and sent her on her way. But even with an arrest, 40 days in jail is utter bullshit, have her post bail and kick her. I don't get why the DA is playing hardball, i'm thinking there is more to this story but a diversionary program sure seems appropriate to me.
      Posted Jul 29, 2014
    • On Israel and Hamas Again, CM said:
      Were it not for the Iranian regime’s extensive role in laying the foundation for the current war, the past few weeks may have been very different for Israelis and Palestinians Again, outside the bubble..... Things had been very quiet for the past two years. Hamas had been strictly observing a cease-fire agreement since it was brokered in 2012, and was even arresting Palestinian militants from rival factions who fired rockets at Israel as recently as last month. http://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-arrests-terror-cell-responsible-for-rocket-fire-on-israel/ Hamas ultimately did resume firing rockets into Israel, but only after the massive crackdown Israel initiated against Hamas in the West Bank (and by some accounts, even after an Israeli airstrike on Gaza). http://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-fired-rockets-for-first-time-since-2012-israeli-officials-say/ And it turns out the initial crackdown against Hamas was also without basis. Israeli officials now acknowledge, in direct contradiction to statements by Israel’s prime minister, that Hamas was actually not responsible for the kidnappings of the three Israeli teens after all. And this is not just a realization Israel made over the weekend: Israeli intelligence officers reportedly noted as early as June 30 that there was no evidence implicating Hamas as an organization. https://twitter.com/sheeraf/status/483672275187552257 http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/hamas-didnt-kidnap-the-israeli-teens-after-all.html How is that even remotely consistent with "laying a foundation"?
      Posted Jul 29, 2014
    • On Want Help? Ask Conservatives, Hal_10000 said:
      Good points, Rich but it seems to me that an absence of mens rea should weigh in on this. She wasn't smuggling weapons or something. Under NJ law, there are exemptions for transporting weapons (for example, if you are going to a firing range and they are unloaded). And there are options beside jail. From the link: Discretion is a a big factor in the Allen case, too. According to Nappen, Atlantic County Prosecutor Jim McClain could have put Allen in a diversionary program for first-time offenders of victimless crimes that would have allowed her to avoid jail time. He didn’t. “Let’s remember, Shaneen Allen volunteered to the police officer that she had a gun and a permit,” Nappen says. “This isn’t something she was trying to hide. She didn’t think she’d done anything wrong. This was a victimless crime, and it’s just unconscionable that they’re putting her and her family through all of this. It could all be avoided.” Nappen says McClain has yet to give a reason for refusing to allow Allen into the diversionary program. McClain’s office did not respond to a request for comment.
      Posted Jul 29, 2014
    • On Israel and Hamas Again, CM said:
      Umm, I never claimed Hamas was “backed by Iran”. I only said they had a mutual goal in destroying Israel, and floated the possibility that Iran would work with Hamas to achieve that goal. What you quoted doesn’t refute that. On the contrary, it would seem to support it. Well I never claimed Hamas couldn't destroy Israel if someone who could destroy Israel helped them. I was talking about Hamas. But there you go again with your hypocritical game-playing. But if Iran is always going to rebuild Hamas, and ultimately will work with Hamas to destroy Israel via nuclear weapons, that makes the current strategy (occupation, blockade, keeping Gaza on the brink of collapse) even more stupid and short-sighted. “As former commander of British forces in Afghanistan and a seasoned analyst of terrorist groups, Col. Richard Kemp, told AFP: “Hamas were very badly damaged by the Israeli Defense Forces back in 2012, but since that time they have been re-equipped significantly by Iran and also by weapons from Syria. … As an Iranian-Canadian who has spent years raising awareness of human rights violations inside Iran, it grieves me that Tehran’s brutal agenda is now playing itself out in Israel and Gaza. Were it...
      Posted Jul 29, 2014
    • On Depends On The Community, CM said:
      What the fuck do you know about what someone believes? You can barely handle reading written English words, yet you like to pretend you can read minds? What a total dick! No mind reading required, it's all there. But that's priceless coming from someone who clearly doesn't mind just making shit up to the point where there is no discussion possible (well in addition to playing the my-fundamentalism-is-better-than-theirs card). But clearly you’re very worried about being labeled an anti-Semite. I don't give two shits because it's not even close to being true, and invariably the people throwing that slur around clearly have no interest in whether it's true or not. You have some serious issues. Need to work through them. Oh I see, I say you have some serious issues and you've responded by telling me that I have some serious issues. So clever what you did there.
      Posted Jul 29, 2014
    • On Want Help? Ask Conservatives, Seattle Outcast said:
      I've never understood how asset forfeiture passed the constitutional sniff test - I mean, there is no "due process," it's just simple theft by police.
      Posted Jul 29, 2014
    • On Want Help? Ask Conservatives, richtaylor365 said:
      Question, If Lars from Amsterdam decides to visit Indonesia and takes his heroin with him, how stupid would you call him when going through customs he announces that he is in fact carrying heroin in his bag? A Penn. CCP don't mean dick if you are in NJ (says so right on the permit, only good for the state issued) . Officers have more discretion for infractions or misdemeanors, all felonies are a "must arrest" with the implicit understanding that weak cases will not be pursued by the DA's office. If she would have kept her big mouth shut, after getting her ticket she would be sent on her merry way. Re: penalty enhancements, they are not discretionary, at least not in California. Once voted on in the legislature, the enhancement time is tacked on, then is recorded and tabulated for those pointy headed academicians to measure cause and effect for later crime statistics. Re: asset forfeiture (like capital punishment, I supported the idea initially but the process has been perverted to the point of losing my assent), cleaning up the process will go a long way to establishing efficacy. The concept is sound, confiscating the ill gotten gains of law breakers, but...
      Posted Jul 29, 2014
    • On “Liking” The IDF, Xetrov said:
      Say, when is the United States going to join Israel, Iran, and the rest of the civilized world in legalization prostitution? What are you smoking, Blume? Is it worth it to destroy any chance at rational cognition? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Iran Prostitution in Iran is illegal, and incurs various punishments ranging from fines and jail terms to execution for repeat offenders. Never heard of the Bunny Ranch? Prostitution is legal there, and half of the counties in Nevada. It's a State law issue, not Federal.
      Posted Jul 29, 2014
    • On Depends On The Community, Seattle Outcast said:
      I came to the conclusion over 30 years ago that I don't really give a damn about either side in that particular little on-going war. Both sides are monsters to each other, and I don't think they'll quit until one side has completely exterminated the other.
      Posted Jul 29, 2014
    • On Israel and Hamas Again, Poosh said:
      http://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2014/07/19/irans_fingerprints_all_over_hamasisrael_conflict.html "As former commander of British forces in Afghanistan and a seasoned analyst of terrorist groups, Col. Richard Kemp, told AFP: “Hamas were very badly damaged by the Israeli Defense Forces back in 2012, but since that time they have been re-equipped significantly by Iran and also by weapons from Syria. ... As an Iranian-Canadian who has spent years raising awareness of human rights violations inside Iran, it grieves me that Tehran’s brutal agenda is now playing itself out in Israel and Gaza. Were it not for the Iranian regime’s extensive role in laying the foundation for the current war, the past few weeks may have been very different for Israelis and Palestinians" Anyway, here' s just one example, in France, from a liberal source: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/22/france-jewish-shops-riot_n_5608612.html I assume most here have already read or seen what's going on in Europe right now. But just in case.
      Posted Jul 29, 2014
    • On Depends On The Community, Poosh said:
      CM you are in no position to say what anyone believes. I don't even need to point out that's not what I think. But clearly you're very worried about being labeled an anti-Semite. You have some serious issues. Need to work through them.
      Posted Jul 29, 2014
    • On Israel and Hamas Again, Iconoclast said:
      Umm, I never claimed Hamas was "backed by Iran". I only said they had a mutual goal in destroying Israel, and floated the possibility that Iran would work with Hamas to achieve that goal. What you quoted doesn't refute that. On the contrary, it would seem to support it.
      Posted Jul 29, 2014
    • On Depends On The Community, Iconoclast said:
      WTF has atheism got to do with any of that. On our sleeves? Why is it that only religious people get to proselytize without criticism? I think what Rich is saying is that liberals tend to wear their atheism on their sleeves, not that all atheists do. Poosh believes... What the fuck do you know about what someone believes? You can barely handle reading written English words, yet you like to pretend you can read minds? What a total dick!
      Posted Jul 29, 2014
    • On Depends On The Community, CM said:
      Poosh believes anyone who isn't 100% behind Israel's actions is Amon Goeth. And yet at the same time he likes to constantly dehumanise Palestinians. Dude has some serious issues.
      Posted Jul 29, 2014
    • On Depends On The Community, Ed Kline said:
      WTF has atheism got to do with any of that. On our sleeves? Why is it that only religious people get to proselytize without criticism?
      Posted Jul 29, 2014
    • On Israel and Hamas Again, CM said:
      Hamas isn’t alone in their goal. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has repeatedly called for Israel’s destruction, and Iran is relentlessly pursuing nuclear weapons capability. Who’s to say they wouldn’t work with Hamas to achieve their mutual goal? Besides you, of course? There is a whole chapter on "isolating Iran-backed Hamas as an obstacle to peace". Unfortunately, come the current Operation Protective Edge, which began on 6 July, there was a problem for Israeli propagandists because Hamas had quarrelled with Iran over the war in Syria and had no contact with Tehran. Friendly relations have been resumed only in the past few days – thanks to the Israeli invasion. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/israelgaza-conflict-the-secret-report-that-helps-israelis-to-hide-facts-9630765.html
      Posted Jul 28, 2014
    • On Depends On The Community, CM said:
      Fundamentalist religious beliefs FTW.
      Posted Jul 28, 2014
    • On “Liking” The IDF, Technomad said:
      My own take is: "If I wanted to have someone in my life constantly crabbing at me, finding fault with everything I did, never content, and making my life a misery, I'd have joined the armed forces. At least they get paid!"
      Posted Jul 28, 2014
    • On Depends On The Community, West Virginia Rebel said:
      Meanwhile...
      Posted Jul 28, 2014
    • On Depends On The Community, CM said:
      Outside the bubble: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11300730
      Posted Jul 28, 2014
    • On Israel and Hamas Again, CM said:
      This started because three Israeli teenagers were kidnapped and murdered, most likely by Hamas. Except it was a lone cell (Hamas affiliated but not operating under leadership). The resulting swoop on the West Bank against Hamas, which soon escalated into all-out war, was based on a a false premise. The Israeli government knew from the get-go that the murderers of three Israeli teens were not doing official Hamas’ bidding even in the West Bank, let alone Gaza. Hamas had recently been very quiet on the rockets front: Fewer rockets were fired from Gaza in 2013 than in any year since 2001, and nearly all those that were fired between the Nov 2012 ceasefire and the current crisis were launched by groups other than Hamas; the Israeli security establishment testified to the aggressive anti-rocket efforts made by the new police force Hamas established specifically for that purpose. http://www.crisisgroup.org/~/media/Files/Middle%20East%20North%20Africa/Israel%20Palestine/b039-gaza-and-israel-new-obstacles-new-solutions.pdf But if you assume that Netanyahu has no intention of ever coming to a peace agreement, a more radical Palestinian population helps justify that. Meanwhile, the core project of a permanent Greater Israel is advanced. http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/07/27/the-lie-behind-the-war/ None of that is relevant in the bubble though, so it will all be casually dismissed. And likely hidden from view.
      Posted Jul 28, 2014
    • On Still Crazy After All These Years, Section8 said:
      Yeah this is just stupid. I like Paul's stance on many issues, and I was a Paul bot in that I hoped he'd do at least a strong showing in the primaries last election if not win, but these fruit loop statements have made me less enthusiastic about the guy over all.
      Posted Jul 28, 2014
    • On Israel and Hamas Again, CM said:
      "LEAVE OUR BUBBLE ALONE!"
      Posted Jul 28, 2014
    • On Israel and Hamas Again, InsipiD said:
      Yeah, at July 9, 2014 5:15 am.
      Posted Jul 28, 2014
    • On As if you needed more proof…., CM said:
      He doesn't mean it, he just loves to posture.
      Posted Jul 28, 2014
    • On Depends On The Community, CM said:
      I went to look at the “Death to zionst baby killer israeli jews" page but it doesn't seem to exist (anymore). Unless they're changed it to 'Death to Israel and the Zionists' - that exists. It currently has '11 likes'. Was started on 25 July. There are currently 4 posts by whoever has set up the page, and 3 from people who have posted in opposition to it "I hope all of you Jew hating cocksuckers blow you selves up and rid the world of your ignorant useless shitbag culture." - says Adam Maloy (is that you Poosh?)
      Posted Jul 28, 2014
    • On Israel and Hamas Again, CM said:
      Sorry, we're already reached FULL RETARD in this thread.
      Posted Jul 28, 2014

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