if these limits may, at any time, be passed by those intended to be restrained?"
-- Chief Justice John Marshall, Marbury v. Madison, 1803
The Gloves Are Off
by Lee
When Cindy Sheehan first came on the scene I went to great lengths to respect her right to an opinion, given that she had lost her son and all. It was only after she started attacking the mothers of other fallen soldiers for not sharing her political views that the gloves really came off for me. In a similar manner I’ve respected John Murtha’s views on the war up to this point, but this shit is beyond the pale.
Rep. John Murtha, a key Democratic voice who favors pulling U.S. troops from Iraq, said in remarks airing on Monday that he would not join the U.S. military today.
A decorated Vietnam combat veteran who retired as a colonel after 37 years in the U.S. Marine Corps, Murtha told ABC News’ “Nightline” program that Iraq “absolutely” was a wrong war for President George W. Bush to have launched.
“Would you join (the military) today?,” he was asked in an interview taped on Friday.
“No,” replied Murtha of Pennsylvania, the top Democrat on the House of Representatives subcommittee that oversees defense spending and one of his party’s leading spokesmen on military issues.
“And I think you’re saying the average guy out there who’s considering recruitment is justified in saying ‘I don’t want to serve’,” the interviewer continued.
“Exactly right,” said Murtha…
This is disgusting. I mean, there are legitimate avenues to disagree with Bush on Iraq policy, or even on whether or not going there in the first place was a good idea. But he’s now bashing the very military that he claims to love and support. Telling kids not to join the military? What kind of a fucking scumbag is this guy?
I tell you what it is, he’s fallen victim to the very same starfucking that got ahold of Cindy Sheehan. A few weeks ago he was John Murtha, some guy nobody had ever heard of. Now he’s JOHN FUCKING MURTHA, God of War, and idol to the anti-war left. His every word is held up like some golden nugget, and millions of Americans think he has sunshine shooting out his asshole. The more statements like this he makes, the more press he gets, and the more he is idolized. It’s a drug.
Unfortunately, his addiction just caused him to sell the very soul of the Marine Corps he served for so many years. He guy is a disgrace. Any respect I had for him he just pissed away with this one remark. Fuck him.
Update: There’s a follow-up to this post here.
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BTW-Happy New Year everyone.
...and the horse he rode in on.Fuck him.
Didn’t this douche-bag support the war initially? Cindy Sheehan must be giving free blow-jobs to get him to come over to her side of this issue.
Wyznowski, I think you just disproved the concept that there is no such thing as bad head.
Who was the stooge reporter who spoon fed him this pre-planned question, that guy is a friggin tool-deluxe,too.
The anti-Bush craziness knows no bounds anymore. I think it was on Malkin’s blog,not sure,but there is a moonbat blaming Bush for the current mine disaster because he did mot prevent it.So if anything bad happens in the world today and Bush can’t find a phonebooth,then it is all his fault.
Murtha is hoping for some close-up time with the Kerrys so he can get some up-close time with Ms T, I’m sure .
more anti bush craziness - from a group whose demographic contains 73% republicans - libertarians - and independants
and only 13% democrats
This contrarian mania is going bonkers. These crazy comments by Pelosi, Kerry, Murtha, Sheehan and the anti-war crowd in general are damaging the US Military’s credibility in the world. The discusting political strategy is to harm the US’s standing in the world, then to say the lost credibility is due to everyone hating Bush.
Sigh. I’m suprised it’s been that high to begin with. That the average serviceman isn’t fully engaging in the time-immorial tradition bitching about anything and everything is amazing.more anti bush craziness -
I’ve got a steaming pile of my former dinner from the other night that’s ready to come out as anti-war. I’ll have a press release for it from the john. It wants to run for Congress.
Sheehan near my member? Keep that smeghead away.
Again you mis-represent someone. He istn’t:
Telling kids not to join the military?
He is saying:
1) He would not join the military now
2) He thinks it’s justified that others wouldn’t want to either.
Is 1) a valid opinion? If so, unless you are a hypocrite then 2) naturally follows.
Disagree with his actual views but suggesting he is going around saying “don’t join the military” is absolute rubbish.
a month ago pretty much nobody had heard of this guy.he has always been against the war.i have never subscribed to the theory that because he served,thank you for that,it makes him an expert on war and its validity.my dad served in ww11 and he was no churchill.
next it is on record that Murtha started to get pissy cos he felt dissed by a tardy reply to a letter he wrote advising the prez;said reply having come from an underling,the poor lamb felt slighted.
Finally,and in light of his pronouncement that troops be pulled back to Okinawa{??},i think it is entirely possible he may be in the beginning stages of dementia.
He is a media whore. How about that?
Representative Murtha is showing the first signs of senility. I have documented my proof earlier. It really is sad; he is get lots of really bad advise or just being used by his closest friends and family. This reminds me of David Brinkley’s final years when he became a spokesman for corrupt ADM and ethanol as a “favor” to his “friend” who ran that company; he was subsequently disowned by ABC.
It really is sad. They don’t have enough marbles to know they are destroying the reputation they worked a lifetime to create.
question: what were his decorations awarded for????
If people decide not to join the military based on what he says, I would hope that it would only be because he has a hand on the purse strings, not because he convinced someone to hate the war.
I’m with padders on this one. Lee, aren’t you criticizing Murtha for being logically consistent?
Now, as to whether the war is/was justified, that is a different question, and one where I think Murtha should be slammed.
A decorated Vietnam combat veteran who retired as a colonel after 37 years in the U.S. Marine Corps
37 years and only made it to Colonel? There is a word for guys like that, dirtbag. He was probably a shitbag officer and was only promoted win they had no choice.
He’s the fat 20 year Staff Sergeant (Air Force staff not Marine) that complains about how airmen arn’t as tough as they used to be, talk about fucking underage girls, then go home everyday at 2.
Most of those 37 years was in the USMC reserve.
Lee, aren’t you criticizing Murtha for being logically consistent?
What’s consistent about claiming to support the troops and then saying that he wouldn’t want to join (or anyone else to join, for that matter)?
Unless you’re arguing that we can finally question his patriotism now…
Have you guys n gals seen this:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007681
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(I cut-n-pasted that, just to make sure that I wasn’t paraphrasing it.)
Lee,
I was under the impression that Michael Moore had already jumped the shark. I don’t even think Democrats (other than the foaming at the mouth types) are wanting to be seen with him.
Sorry bout that........... :- (
No harm done that I can see, but anything longer, and you would have really screwd up the page formatting.
And then everyone would have laughed at you and thrown things at your head.
;-)
4RWWs just reminded me of something - John Murtha wouldn’t enlist, and wouldn’t encourage anyone else to re-enlist, but guess who was one of the handful of ‘Yea’ votes when Chuck Rangel’s “Reinstate the Draft” bill came up for a vote?
Three guesses and the first two don’t count.
Doesn’t want anyone to join voluntarily, he wants them to be stuffed into uniform kicking and screaming. And does anyone here not honestly believe that Dems would be making noises about how the Rethuglicans are enlisting minorities at higher rates than Caucasians?
1970 Re-Redux.
. And does anyone here not honestly believe that Dems would be making noises about how the Rethuglicans are enlisting minorities at higher rates than Caucasians?
I do believe that Dems will make a huge stink about the numbers (even though only the poor white kids seem to be the minority). The patriots still seem to voluntary white kids. Why fight a war when welfare is a viable option?
Drum, you aren’t expecting logic, consistancy, or *GASP* common sense out of this idiot...Are you?
Isn’t that what some of these people were arguing - that Murtha was just being consistent?
Can the Speaker’s Office order him to have a test for Alzheimer’s? Or some other geriatrically-based deterioration?
Speaking of deterioration and Cindh Sheehan, anybody happen to catch Bill O’Reilly on David Letterman tonight?
I mean, Good God. Compared to Loserman, O’Reilly is William F. Buckley.
OT: Remaining 12 miners found alive in WV. That’s only one death out of the 19. Good news almost all the way around, and my thoughts and prayers are with the 19th family.
Excuse my rudness, but fuck him and all that think like him. Is that short and sweet for you?
I wonder did Murtha make colonel on retirement?
after 37 years and he only make col,. on retirement ... yeah that look a like he was a desk jockey or some such.
\BTW Drum all the miners save one are dead. Apparently there was some kind of miscommunication.
Thsoe familes are goign through hell…
damm..
OT: Remaining 12 miners found alive in WV. That’s only one death out of the 19. Good news almost all the way around, and my thoughts and prayers are with the 19th family.
This is the worst thing that has happened with regards to the news in years. There were 13, not 19, and all but one are dead. This is terribly sad and I can only imagine the murderous thoughts that the victims’ families felt upon hearing the latest news. I went to bed thinking all is right (12 alive and Penn State wins) and awaken to find out how wrong it was. Sad.
Same with me, Insipid. When I went to bed at one this morning, they were reporting 12 found alive and fine. This morning I wake up to find they were actually found dead.
Knowing the emotional slap I felt, I can’t even imagine what it did to the families. To have their hopes (and minds) go from fear and uncertainty to jubilation and celebration and then to grief and mourning - too unfair. Very sad indeed.
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And of course the liberal media will be there foaming at the mouth to get any interview with him. You’re right, he’s a scumbag.