Paulestinian Car Swarm Watch
by Manwhore
The moonbats are at it again, and this time the target of Teh Revolution(patent pending sanity) is Sean Hannity of the Fox News Network. They exhibit faith in Dear Leader, above all else, I’ll give them that. The only man who can save the constitution has once again waved his sceptre and stung his dissenters squarely in in the ass. Link.
Pretty funny stuff, and I’d be laughing my ass of if I didn’t constantly remind myself that these people are rioting for a US Presidential cantidate. It comes as no surprise to me who they’ve chosen to save America from aliens printing the US dollar, and the War In Iraq’s effect on healthcare in the United States.
RonPaul Against the Machine!
Update:
I’m sur that none of these hecklers were motivated by Fox’s decision to keep Ron Paul off the air. But just to be fair let’s all highlight The Nutty Professor.
Gold Standard Nuttery:
At times Paul took a professorial approach, lecturing the crowd on the history of monetary policy and his view that abandoning the gold standard was a critical mistake.
Not smaller government actually, Paul just wants to move the goalposts. The only man who can save the constitution would never be intellectually dishonest would he?
One voter noted that Paul was running hard-hitting ads that pledged a crackdown on illegal immigration. He suggested that the campaign promise would entail a beefed up federal bureaucracy and would be inconsistent with Paul’s philosophy of reduced government.
Paul said his plan would not mean more federal employees, but rather would bring home border guards now serving in Iraq.
Sounds like smaller government to me. *Tsk* Border gaurds from Iraq will ignore drug traficking and stick to finding Mexicans. As for allies, Paul insists “Who needs ‘em?” He even addresses why we should abandon Israel, but it has nothing to do with hearing the cheers of Neo Nazis in his base, mind oyu:
Asked about his views on the Arab Israeli conflict, Paul suggested that he had been unfairly portrayed as anti-Semitic because he opposed U.S. aid to Israel. The congressman said he would also block foreign aid to Arab countries, which would be to Israel’s benefit.
And Uncle Looneytoon futher amazes me with his lunacy. How could he be such a vehement christian who thinks christmas is being murdered, and the constitution was written by god, but not care two shits about the birthplace of Christ? As for the real meat and potatoes here:
The decision by Fox to limit participation in the forum infuriated Paul supporters and even drew the ire of the New Hampshire Republican Party, which withdrew its sponsorship of the event.
So withdrawing support for the debate wasn’t enough. Paul supporters demand blood for this travesty.
Comments
"rioting “? “disgusting”?
Give me (and the hyperbole) a break. Since when are media shills entitled to be shielded from criticism? Since when are citizens of the US not entitled to take their opinions to the street?
Besides, I didn’t see anything even remotely resembling “rioting”. I saw and heard people peacefully (albeit loudly) voicing their displeasure with Fox and Sean Hannity. At no point did I hear any threats, see any cars being burned, or see any violent acts occur.
I guess challenging the shills for the right-wing evangelical socialists is enough to warrant the label “disgusting” now, huh?
Since when are citizens of the US not entitled to take their opinions to the street?
They are absolutely entitled to take their opinions to the street. No one implied otherwise.
And I am entitled to find such behavior - chasing an individual (whoever he is) down the street shouting at him - disgusting behavior.
FWIW - I disapprove of O’Reilly sending his reporters to the homes and businesses of the judges, etc. that he has fault with and sticking a mike in their face.
What they did was no different that the republican activists who flew into Florida in 2001 for the Recount Fiasco. That wasn’t “Rioting”.
Give me (and the hyperbole) a break. Since when are media shills entitled to be shielded from criticism? Since when are citizens of the US not entitled to take their opinions to the street?
Right. so that’s civilized discourse or is it an angry mob? I have to ask you ( aresident Paulestinian) how do you excuse that behavior. Paulestinians don’t like Sean Hannity because he dared question all that is Ron Paul, and for this opinion he is stalekd and mobbed?
Get a grip.
Besides, I didn’t see anything even remotely resembling “rioting”. I saw and heard people peacefully (albeit loudly) voicing their displeasure with Fox and Sean Hannity. At no point did I hear any threats, see any cars being burned, or see any violent acts occur.
Dude ran to his car. i would too. seems the disgruntled Paulestinians are out in the masses, projecting the failed dreams of a constitutionally conservative Eutopia in George Bush.
I fail to see how they can be differentiated from liberal moonbats. They are worshipping this ‘conservative’ idea of Paul’s platform and ignoring that he’s a stark raving lunatic. Or maybe they are all lunatics too.
Was Cindy Sheehan leading that group?
My brother saw her and her ilk at the Rose Parade attention-whoring, so I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if she shows up for a celebrity endorsement. Paul has never been shy about recieving praise form unsavory types, and she’s conspiracy loon just like he is.
there should be a bet if momma moonbat joins the revolution for Paul’s anti-intervention stance. After all, her child would be alive if we left well enough alone in iraq.
Some might say he’s be alive if he hadn’t volunteered for service, but that would almost mkae him a man responsible for his actions.
What they did was no different that the republican activists who flew into Florida in 2001 for the Recount Fiasco. That wasn’t “Rioting”.
Anyone with a brain would know what the Rep did in 2001 was insane. To use that as justification is crazy. Why am I not surprised that the Paulistinians are defending chasing, harrassing, and threating people who don’t support Ron Paul as “Free Speech?”
No one takes any issue with that amount of nutty squirrel turd people who support Ron Paul… Nobody? Is this who want to push for change in America. The Nutty Proffessor? Who happens to be a closet racist…
And I am entitled to find such behavior - chasing an individual (whoever he is) down the street shouting at him - disgusting behavior.
*sigh* Repmom, don’t you know you can’t reason with the insane? Paulestinians are fighting an intifada and a jihad against the pre-ordaned establishment.
His nest is a viper’s pit of angry conspirators that find themselves in bed with Paul under one premise. they hate establishment.
What they did was no different that the republican activists who flew into Florida in 2001 for the Recount Fiasco. That wasn’t “Rioting”.
so if I’m doing my moral equvialance equation, libertarians are just like extremist christians fundies?
Dude ran to his car. i would too.
Manwhore’s right. This wasn’t a peaceful demonstration of people standing on the street with signs, this was a group of angry people shouting and running after other individuals.
No harm was done to anyone, but there could have been. It only takes one hothead to lose his cool, and there seemed to be several such folks in that group.
No one takes any issue with that amount of nutty squirrel turd people who support Ron Paul… Nobody
It’s Ron Paul’s base, and to libertarians who cares? Bring on the extra votes from anywhere, because nothing is more important than Ron Paul’s interpretation of the US constitution. And nothing but his vision will save us.
It pains me to see so many other cantidates who actually have these views, but are more sane, yet Paulestinians refuse to leave his cult.
It pains me to see so many other cantidates who actually have these views, but are more sane
BWAHAHAHAHAhA..."other candidates” hold a view that somehow Constitutionally limits the Government??? You really are one of the conservative zombies described here:
“Reality check: Americans are living under the biggest, most powerful government in history. It is the biggest-spending government in history. Its currency is crashing because of its out-of-control spending. Its military power extends over the entire globe. It is an empire that polices the world, sometimes with brutal and deadly force. It kidnaps, tortures, sexually abuses, incarcerates, and murders people with impunity and without even the semblance of due process or trial by jury. It engages in coups, assassinations, invasions, and occupations of countries that have recalcitrant regimes. Its jails are overrun with people who have committed no act of violence against others. It ignores constitutional restraints on its powers. Its ever-increasing welfare-state programs keep the citizenry drugged, calm, and dependent on the state.
The reality is that all the Republican presidential candidates (except Ron Paul) are part and parcel of all this. During their entire political careers, they have supported the socialist, interventionist, and imperial direction the United States has taken. They still do.
Yet they stand there in front of an Iowa audience and look into the faces of the people and into the television camera and with straight faces repeat the old mantras that conservatives were mouthing in the 1950s: “I’m committed to free enterprise, private property, limited government, fiscal responsibility, and the Constitution.” And then they dutifully bash those “big-government, big-spending liberals.” And the people in the audience, zombie-like, just sit there, nod their heads, and applaud.”
"so if I’m doing my moral equvialance equation, libertarians are just like extremist christians fundies?”
WHAT!? The R’s I saw in FLA. Weren’t ALL Extremist Christian Fundies...some of them were hard right activists.
Hannity puts himslef out there on Fox News (which I used to work for) time and time again as “the voice of reason”. Do you really think that there WON’t Be People who will dissagree with him and let him know about it.
I’m not a huge fan of what the Paulistinians (great nickname, whoever came up with it), but to call it “Rioting” is over the top.
Kinda like calling Breathalyzers to enter a prom the first step toward prohibiton part 2.
Americans are living under the biggest, most powerful government in history. It is the biggest-spending government in history.
A mercedes costs more than it did 30yrs ago, what’s your point? you sound like you came unhinged just a little bit there.
Its military power extends over the entire globe. It is an empire that polices the world, sometimes with brutal and deadly force.
the world is interested in being a world economy, for the most part, and there are a few power mongering regimes still not having it. We can intervene or not. I fail to see that if we intervene in Pakistan 9for example) it is for the worst. you are an idiot to think that nucleear weapons in the wrong hands of anyone wouldn’t effect even an Isolationist America. Wake up.
It is an empire that polices the world, sometimes with brutal and deadly force. It kidnaps, tortures, sexually abuses, incarcerates, and murders people with impunity and without even the semblance of due process or trial by jury. It engages in coups, assassinations, invasions, and occupations of countries that have recalcitrant regimes. Its jails are overrun with people who have committed no act of violence against others.
I’m calling bullshit. I want proof. Otherwise I’m just as justifed to say that aliens may do this but we do not.
The reality is that all the Republican presidential candidates (except Ron Paul) are part and parcel of all this. During their entire political careers, they have supported the socialist, interventionist, and imperial direction the United States has taken. They still do.
Which direction is that? Which one of the GOP cantidates wants to further distance elections, make socialized medicine, and demanded that the USA invade anymore nations? Hmmmm?
Yet they stand there in front of an Iowa audience and look into the faces of the people and into the television camera and with straight faces repeat the old mantras that conservatives were mouthing in the 1950s: “I’m committed to free enterprise, private property, limited government, fiscal responsibility, and the Constitution.” And then they dutifully bash those “big-government, big-spending liberals.” And the people in the audience, zombie-like, just sit there, nod their heads, and applaud.”
Right. As opposed to Paul who actually will deliver this message, and make it happen. Toke up dude, if you stay here your head’s gonna pop from the reality needle.
WHAT!? The R’s I saw in FLA. Weren’t ALL Extremist Christian Fundies...some of them were hard right activists.
So I’m now supposed to downgrade the extremist views of those people because likeing them to Ron Paul supporters is holding too much of the mirror in front of them?
Hannity puts himslef out there on Fox News (which I used to work for) time and time again as “the voice of reason”. Do you really think that there WON’t Be People who will dissagree with him and let him know about it.
I’ll take it a step further to say that I fully expect mob mentality from Ron Paul supporters. They are every bit as irrational as they are in support of Ron Paul, in public.
but to call it “Rioting” is over the top.
What would you call rioting, then? Since you brought up the breathalyzer thing, I’d bet you a cop would quickly be able to call what was going on there a crime in no time.
I get a warm feeling from the fact that there are still Americans who not only get off the couch and are doing something about the corruption of the election process but hold those who attempt to manipulate it further closer to the fire.
Give me (and the hyperbole) a break. Since when are media shills entitled to be shielded from criticism? Since when are citizens of the US not entitled to take their opinions to the street?
So, if you do something I don’t agree with, is it ok for me and a group of like-minded people to chase you down the street?
Granted these people did not resort to violence but they were acting with a mob mentality. Ron Paul was treated unfairly and Fox news should be held accountable for it’s unfair and unbalanced reporting of Ron Paul. Holding Fox new accountable would be starting a letter and blog campaign. It would also be perfectly justified to protest outside Fox offices, as long as, people weren’t being harassed and chased. It doesn’t matter if someone was hurt or not, the group of people were coming very close to violent actions. It would have only taken one hothead to throw a rock or a punch and the whole thing could have gone to shit.
Trying to respond, but I can’t post for some reason…
Trying to respond, but I can’t post for some reason…
what’s the problem you are experiencing? you should be fine and dandy.. Is it running slow? that could be the Paulestinian Storm Troopers knocking on our door with a DoS attack.
THERE it Goes…
“So I’m now supposed to downgrade the extremist views of those people because likeing them to Ron Paul supporters is holding too much of the mirror in front of them?”
No, you were generalizing. I worked at a TV station in 2001 (not FNC) and I saw tons of video of those people in FLA. Not all of them were carrying crucifixes. Alot of them acted and spoke like they were politcal operatives there for a purpose.
“I’ll take it a step further to say that I fully expect mob mentality from Ron Paul supporters. They are every bit as irrational as they are in support of Ron Paul, in public.”
Do you have proof of this, other than the video you linked? I may be wrong, but I doubt ALL of Paul’s supporters are willing to track Hannity as he does his thing.
“What would you call rioting, then? Since you brought up the breathalyzer thing, I’d bet you a cop would quickly be able to call what was going on there a crime in no time.”
I’m not a cop or lawyer, so I may be wrong (again), but I didn’t see anything in that video that was a crime. What would I call Rioting? LA after the King Verdict or the WTA protestors in Seattle.
“ So withdrawing support for the debate wasn’t enough. Paul supporters demand blood for this travesty.”
Again, you are generalizing...were there a THOUSAND Paul Supporters hunting Hannity with torches and pitchforks?
If you havent seen it, take a look at Glenn Becks Show where he interviewed Ron Paul over Xmas. He asked Paul about some of these 9/11 Truthers who sent Beck Death Threats. Paul discredited them and told Beck he had no idea People were using his candidacy to advance such thinking. Maybe his politics are flawed, and he most certainly has supporters who are on the lunatic fringe, but to call him and ALL his supporters crazy is off the mark.
Look....I’m No Paulistinian (Funny nickname, BTW). It just seems to me that you have a habit of generalizing in your posts (Breathalyzer, PETA/China). You seem to think that since some members of a particular group think in a negative/bad way...then all of them must.
I’ve been a registered D since 1998, but I LOVE coming here and reading what some conservatives think about what’s going on in our world...and ya’ll happen to be right on several issues facing our country (iraq, the economy, IMMIGRATION)...but does the fact I’m a D make me a raving, troop-hating, enviro-whacko lunatic?
I was listing to Neil Boortz today and Hannity, seemed to play the whole thing down. A few Snow balls thrown, a few F-Bombs… but thats about all.
Neil Noted that the Ron
Paul campaign canceled its candidates appearance on Neils show....after having Pauls son on yesterday.. WTF? he bitched about not getting air time and then he cancels with neil.....
I think this has less to do with Paul’s political stance, and more to do with his supporters feeling that their voting voices are being squashed by FOX. Whether FOX intended to do this or not, they’ve put Ron Paul’s supporters in the position of feeling that “the powers that be” have decided their candidate—and thus, their votes—are irrelevant. In a country with so many people absolutely apathetic to the political process, it’s good to know that there are some—and where else would they be but in New Hampshire?—who take this stuff VERY seriously.
The crowd probably overreacted by chasing Sean Hannity. Then again, maybe the next time FOX decides to exclude a segment of the American citizenry from the democractic process, they’ll think twice.
The crowd probably overreacted by chasing Sean Hannity. Then again, maybe the next time FOX decides to exclude a segment of the American citizenry from the democractic process, they’ll think twice.
yup, just like Jimmy Hoffa was stupid to ignore the citizenry of the Italian mafia. Let that be a lesson to him, that an angry, strong arm mob is not to be ignored.
How could he be such a vehement christian who thinks christmas is being murdered, and the constitution was written by god, but not care two shits about the birthplace of Christ?
Because, God forbid, he can seperate his religion from his politics.
No harm was done to anyone, but there could have been.
I do realize that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure and all that, but shouldn’t we wait for the crime to occur before we castigate the criminal?
I happen to really agree with Ron Paul’s politics, I’m pretty sure I’m not a lunatic. Biased, I know.
Because, God forbid, he can seperate his religion from his politics.
Haha. I knew someone was gonna chirp in with this. He can’t do that at all… He certainly can’t separate his religion from the politics of using it to get elected.
He’s alread chastened every fundie red button topic imaginable. He’s aganst abortion, believes God’s undeniably in the constitution (should have been strike one I believe), believes in Creationism pixie, and not to keen on separation of church and state.
That and he’s using all of these viewpoints to get himself elected, and nothingmore. Otherwise they would be his private opinions. so, excuse me if I call him just as guilty of using God as his co-pilot, and labelling him a hyporcrite.
What’s actually happening is that he’s supporting so many lunatics, they are starting to overlap and conflict each other, which is why you see his politics on Israel the way you do. Hate monger White Supremacists really believe in God, but they hate jews. Hence, Ron Paul’s politics.
He’s alread chastened every fundie red button topic imaginable. He’s aganst abortion, believes God’s undeniably in the constitution (should have been strike one I believe), believes in Creationism pixie, and not to keen on separation of church and state.
Against abortion, but also against federal regulation thereof.
Believes in Creationism, but I have yet to read anything about him trying to push it into schools.
And I assume the seperation of church and state you refer to is his Christmas display paper, which is actually an assault on the liberal obsession with all things political correct, not the First Amendment.
You may be hard pressed to find a more strident supporter of evolution than me at this blog, but Ron Paul’s personal beliefs, while much different than my own, don’t scare me. I haven’t seen anything in his platform to suggest that he’s anything but against small government.
And as an aside, are you suggesting that you’d never vote for any President that didn’t share your religion? If so, do you think that no one else is capable of leading the country better?
Then again, maybe the next time FOX decides to exclude a segment of the American citizenry from the democractic process, they’ll think twice.
Wow. That sounds very much like a threat.....
Sorry, one last addendum (I missed it in the quote).
Frankly, I don’t care where he thinks my liberties came from, as long as he upholds them.
I was listing to Neil Boortz today and Hannity, seemed to play the whole thing down. A few Snow balls thrown, a few F-Bombs… but thats about all.
Sure. If he’d made an issue of it, everyone would be calling him a whiney, crybaby.
(well, actually, they already do....)
Frankly, I don’t care where he thinks my liberties came from, as long as he upholds them.
Hand in hand with the Neo-nazis he says this.
And as an aside, are you suggesting that you’d never vote for any President that didn’t share your religion? If so, do you think that no one else is capable of leading the country better?
I don’t practice any religion, so I guess that would let oyu know that I vote for all cantidates that are a different faith than my own.
And I assume the seperation of church and state you refer to is his Christmas display paper, which is actually an assault on the liberal obsession with all things political correct, not the First Amendment.
Hmmm, I don’t think it was as satyrical as you’re suggesting. I think he’s as consistent in his batshit craziness and zealoutry as he claims to be in his politics:
yup, just like Jimmy Hoffa was stupid to ignore the citizenry of the Italian mafia. Let that be a lesson to him, that an angry, strong arm mob is not to be ignored.
As the mafia is a criminal organization, that’s hardly a valid comparison, unless you’re trying to suggest that Ron Paul supporters are members of a criminal organization.
Wow. That sounds very much like a threat.....
Please. My concern is because FOX seems to be choosing who is and who is not a valid candidate for the Republican nomination. This is meddling in democracy. That’s not cool.
As the mafia is a criminal organization, that’s hardly a valid comparison, unless you’re trying to suggest that Ron Paul supporters are members of a criminal organization.
Read my next post if you want to know who I think this crowd is.
If you truly understand how money works, you’ll quickly realize that the “gold standard” is unworkable - simply put, there isn’t enough gold on the planet to make it feasible in today’s world.
Actually, fixing the money to any physical item is unworkable in the long run. The perceived value of any given medium of exchange will vary greatly over time. Salt, for instance, was once money (the word salary is derived from it). Try to pay someone their weeks wages in salt today and see how far that gets you.
Gold only has real value in jewelry and some industrial applications. If things actually get bad enough, a ton of gold won’t buy you food or shelter.
Letting the value of money float is just as reasonable as fixing it to a quantified amount of anything, and eliminates the need to actually locate, process, store, and guard some physical item of “value”.
If you truly understand how money works, you’ll quickly realize that the “gold standard” is unworkable - simply put, there isn’t enough gold on the planet to make it feasible in today’s world.
Tar is in them asteroids!! Geter move on !
YEEHAWW
SO you rock, as always. Very good point. Gold only worked as long as it worked, much like seashells worked as long as they worked.
Hand in hand with the Neo-nazis he says this.
I’d be less inclined to include myself with that type of group as a personal statement if the rest of the candidates had as much gusto for personal responsibility as Paul, I’d probably throw my chips in with them, but instead we get Christian Socialists masquerading as Republicans. And that scares me far more than holding hands with a Neo-Nazi in support of upholding the Constitution. Bad times make strange bedfellows.
I’d be less inclined to include myself with that type of group as a personal statement if the rest of the candidates had as much gusto for personal responsibility as Paul, I’d probably throw my chips in with them, but instead we get Christian Socialists masquerading as Republicans. And that scares me far more than holding hands with a Neo-Nazi in support of upholding the Constitution. Bad times make strange bedfellows.
As long as you are content in your decision, you don’t need to apologize for it.
I only posted this because I was sick of the denial that Paul was an unsavory character.
As long as you are content in your decision, you don’t need to apologize for it.
Would that you extend the same courtesy to people who believe in a causal agent for the big bang.
Zing!
:)
As long as you are content in your decision, you don’t need to apologize for it.
It’s politics, so there’s no such thing as a perfect candidate. We vote the lesser of two evils, and if I have to choose between rubbing shoulders with a neo-nazi or sacrificing more of my rights, keeping friends and family in the middle of an unwinnable war I once supported and further ambiguous interpretations of the Constitution, the answer is obvious.
There’s too many question marks for me to decide if Paul is a racist, but at the end of the day, if he delivered what he promises, would it even matter? If his racism didn’t and can’t impact his domestic policies, I don’t.
And now that I think about it, it wasn’t really an apology, just an explanation. An apology would suggest I was sorry for it. I’m not.
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Was Cindy Sheehan leading that group?