if these limits may, at any time, be passed by those intended to be restrained?"
-- Chief Justice John Marshall, Marbury v. Madison, 1803
No Guns In Ohio
by Lee
NRA to Columbus: up yours.
The National Rifle Association announced Monday that it would not hold its 2007 national convention in Columbus as planned.
The announcement came one week after City Council passed an assault weapons ban, NBC 4’s Kyle Anderson reported.
NRA officials said the group would return once the state legislature enacts a pre-emption that would overturn the Columbus ban, Anderson reported.
Local convention officials said the three-day convention would have brought 60,000 people and $15 million to the local economy.
The officials had hoped the speculation would not prove true, and as of late last week said it had not heard anything from the NRA, Anderson reported.
Intrigued, I went to the Columbus City Council website, where they have a whole page devoted to this issue. Here’s a statement by the two numbnuts who proposed this law.
“We’re stunned and concerned that Congress and the President have failed to act to extend the ban on assault weapons. Clearly, public safety should be the most important priority - especially given the continued threat of terrorism. Last year we co-sponsored a resolution asking the Ohio governor and the Ohio Legislature to keep concealed weapons out of our parks and pools and called on local government colleagues around the state to speak out as well. We continue to be concerned about the proliferation of weapons in our neighborhoods, whether assault guns or concealed firearms. For the protection of our citizens and our police officers, we must keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
Seems that they have much larger designs that just banning “assault weapons,” whatever the hell that term is supposed to define. It’s also interesting that these morons seem to think that the way to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals is to pass a law, despite the fact that, by definition, criminals don’t obey the law to begin with.
I wonder which the average resident of Columbus would rather have, the $15 million in tax revenue from the NRA convention, or this ridiculous, feel-good legislation that will accomplish nothing?
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despite the fact that, by definition, criminals don’t obey the law to begin with.
By that logic whats the point of banning anything?
By that logic whats the point of banning anything?
To justify legal punishment. If bestiality is illegal and some sicko gets caught, he gets punished. That’s a good thing.
The problem with banning guns is that there are both good and bad ways to use them. Those responsible, law abiding citizens that want to keep a gun in the house for protection should be able to. If we ban them, the good guys give up their guns and the criminals keep theirs, putting the law abiding at greater risk of being robbed/mugged at gunpoint.
So the difference is that ALL the pervs that like their pets a little too much face punishment, but not all who posess guns do. Only those who misuse them.
It gets better. Here in Cleveland our local newspaper, the Cleveland Plain Dealer, has taken it upon itself to publish the names of every concealed carry permit holder in the spirit of informing the readers which of your neighbors is armed and for public safety. They publish their list monthly and the intent is obvious, to intimidate people into not getting the permit. I’m not surprised to hear this kind of rationale coming out of Columbus since it’s so pervasive in this area. We could note though that crackheads, drug dealers etc. never bother to get the permit for their guns, so their names don’t get published until they’ve gotten caught committing a crime.
Maybe we should ban dogs.
Guns cause murders the same way spoons made Rosie O’Donnell fat.
I love the term “assault weapons”.
Is there such thing as a “non-assault weapon”?
They publish their list monthly and the intent is obvious, to intimidate people into not getting the permit.
What fools. The truth is that those with CHLs have been scrutinized through the application process. So they would rather have people packing that haven’t been checked out?
I’m applying for a concealed handgun license and I want everyone to know when I get it.
keep concealed weapons out of our parks and pools
Ah, the root of the problem appears to be that all the city’s pools are full of guns.
Ya. Where do you conceal a handgun while swimming anyway?
I’m applying for a concealed handgun license and I want everyone to know when I get it.
Me too. I don’t care who knows I have the permit. They don’t take into cosideration that an intelligent criminal would check the list to see who doesn’t have the permit and then calculate his odds of getting shot based on that. (How many smart criminals are there? That’s a whole different question)
...publish the names of every concealed carry permit holder in the spirit of informing the readers which of your neighbors is armed…
I had a great idea, but In2Deep beat me to it:
...an intelligent criminal would check the list to see who doesn’t have the permit…
That public list would actually be another reason to get the permit, not to avoid it. Liberals: continually self-defeating.
Liberals: continually self-defeating.
Or: law of unintended consequences.
I bet all criminals are now having that nicey-tingly sensation all over. Thanks Assholes.feel-good legislation that will accomplish nothing?
Actually, all weapons, to include firearms, are non assault weapons, per se. They become assault weapons after someone decides to utilize them for assaulting.Is there such thing as a “non-assault weapon”?
Nobody thinks of an assault weapon when talking about a table lamp or a flashlight. I haven’t seen those banned either. (UK is probably heading that way, though).
I see firearms as mainly defensive weapons, among civilians, Law enforcement and the military. They’re used to defend life, family and property, the law and to defend our country.
To blame firearms for crimes is, at least, ridiculous. Blame the criminals. And allow us to be able to defend ourselves.
By that logic whats the point of banning anything?
Why is the government supposed to ban anything? I know the Government is supposed to build roads and maintain armed forces, and tax us to pay for it.
Why is the government supposed to ban anything? I know the Government is supposed to build roads and maintain armed forces, and tax us to pay for it.
Uh, and part of maintaining armed forces is putting a police force on the streets, whose job it is to serve and protect, i.e. keep the peace i.e. uphold the LAW. Laws, in turn, punish people for doing illegal things. Illegal things are banned things.
You’ve oversimplified the government’s role to the point of anarchy.
I live in a suburban city that borders Columbus. Let me tell you, everybody who lives in or around Columbus believes it’s a dump, and it is. It’s an ugly, desolate hole full of parking lots that need to be mowed and empty 30-year-old shopping malls.
I know here in Texas, you are not allowed to carry your handgun concealed in many places, like stadiums and the like. There is a list posted on the state government website of places you can and cannot carry. Carrying in such a place is cause to have your license revoked for a year minimum for the first offense, second may get it revoked entirely, and depending on where you carry, could be a felony. Responsible owners do not take guns to theses places, so only criminals do.
Personally, I carry almost everywhere I go. If my paper wants to “out” me, I say bring it on. I don’t care who knows I have a concealed license.
Typical political bullshit; The people of Colunbus should lose the 15 million for putting such idiots into office in the first place
Typical Buckeyes !!
Definition of Buckeye= Useless Nut
the Cleveland Plain Dealer, has taken it upon itself to publish the names of every concealed carry permit holder in the spirit of informing the readers which of your neighbors is armed and for public safety.
Great. Now the criminals know who NOT to fuck with.
No shit, huh? I think I’d like to get my name on the “Do Not Fuck With” list, even if I didn’t carry a gun.
And that’s part of the beauty of CCW permits. The mugger has no idea whether the hand reaching behind them (or in the purse or inside a jacket) will be coming out with a wallet or a pistol, and that means that even the unarmed are protected by that uncertainty.
I’d also like to point out something that Penn & Teller reminded me of… Every major mass shooting in the United States has occurred in a so-called “gun-free zone”. Post offices, churches, schools and universities, and all the rest.
If somebody shows up at one of those places and starts shooting, everyone else who is obeying the law have two basic choices: either run like hell and hope not to get shot in the back while doing so OR hide and hope that the shooter(s) run out of ammo before they get to you.
It’s also amusing that the very people who loathe and despise and want to hobble police and military forces are also the only ones who want to limit gun possession to ONLY those very same police and military forces. (But who do we call if its the cops kicking down the door?)
{/Second Amendment Advocacy}
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FYI. “$15 million into the local economy” isn’t “$15 million in tax revenue”. In fact, it’s probably significantly less than $1 million in tax revenue. But, yes I understand your overall point.