if these limits may, at any time, be passed by those intended to be restrained?"
-- Chief Justice John Marshall, Marbury v. Madison, 1803
LOL!
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Who said the left doesn’t give a shit?
Japan appears to be hunting for whales for the first time since the 1960s. In addition, they are going to be hunting ‘protected’ whales around the
Antarctica. I remember back to my Oceanagraphy class at school, and the teacher told us that scientists in the states had tagged almost all of the gray whales that migrate the Pacific coast. Any of the tagged whales that were lost, were all lost in the Pacific, in Japanese waters.
I couldn’t really give a shit. Well, I do, but not as much as Greenpeace does.
SHIMONOSEKI, Japan - A Japanese whaling fleet sailing toward waters off Antarctica to kill protected humpback whales was itself the target of a hunt Monday by environmental activists who vowed to disrupt the expedition.
Greenpeace said its protest ship Esperanza was searching for the fleet south of Japanese territorial waters and would shadow the ships to the South Pacific to try to reduce their catch.
“It’s a large ocean, but we’re going to track them down,” expedition member Dave Walsh told The Associated Press by telephone Monday.
As all of my ultra libtarded friends would say “One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.” There were obviously some choice words for these people seen here.
“They’re violent environmental terrorists,” mission leader Hajime Ishikawa said. “Their violence is unforgivable ... We must fight against their hypocrisy and lies.”
No argument there, bu the LOL came shortly after. Tell me if you can finish reading this without cracking up:
Families waved little flags emblazoned with smiling whales and the crew raised a toast with cans of beer
Talk about a ‘fuck you’ to these Greenpeace fags, but the flags are a nice touch. It gets better though:
while a brass band played “Popeye the Sailor Man.”
LOL! I’m crying. Popeye! LOL!
Jesus Christ, talk about some rear Engrish! I need to see these people face off. I don’t know who to root for. For all you liberals, all the Japs are asking you to do is pay a little fucking respect to thier culture which just so happens to conflict with your nature worshipping religion of environmental doom.
Update: Happy Monday to everyone, BTW. And to all who read here from abroad, this is a short week here in the States. This week we remember how to give thanks, and then whip your ass.
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Worse than this whaleing is the killing of dolphins. I am no member of PETA; I think I would kill myself if I was told I could never eat another bacon sandwich again; but dolphins (like apes) are to me a whole different category. The japanese mass slaughter these animals (again, I am not entirley sure what they even do with the products, I certainly never saw dolphin on the menu during my travelling round Japan). If you have ever swam with a dolphin you will know how intelligent they are, and I love my dog - but there is a very very big difference between the two.
This issue is really just a tip of the iceberg about how in these days of legitimately fragile ecological times, one countries “cultural” or jobs program clearly lead to ecological problems.
The whale issue is nothing compared to poor Indonesians fishing with dynamite that destroys coral reefs or the vast market for shark fin soup depopulating the ocean of sharks (sharks hunted and killed just for their dorsal fin).
Actually, this is a bit of a misrepresentation. Very few people here actually eat whale any more. Most people were fed it in junior high but have no real desire to eat it again. The whaling industry is based on pork - a sop to the fishing industry which ...er… hasn’t been doing too well of late.
I’m inclined to say that’s horseshit, because they simply eat everything out of the ocean. I can’t for the life of me see them not eating this, or being allowed to hunt this for a small nationally backed cult.
If you have ever swam with a dolphin you will know how intelligent they are, and I love my dog - but there is a very very big difference between the two.
Get your races right, Padders. Koreans eat dogs, you’ve nothing to fear of a jap with a hot wok.
I’d tend to agree with you about dolphin slaughter. Apparently they try to get rid of them because the dolphins lower the yeild of the catch.
They’ve unfortunately learned how to eat from the nets used for fishing.
So, what are they going to do with all the whale meat that doesn’t sell? Not exactly a big market for this anymore - a few whales should be enough to glut the market.
So, what are they going to do with all the whale meat that doesn’t sell? Not exactly a big market for this anymore - a few whales should be enough to glut the market.
I think they’ll probably share some with Norway. I don’t remember all of my days in Seden, but there is a relationship between the two countires over whale meat.
But, yeah. Like my hillbilly grandfather said. “You can kill anything you want, as long as you’re prepared to eat what you kill.”
they’d better pick those things clean.
What they also aren’t telling you is that these Greenpeace and Sierra Club boats are armed like a warship and have been known to try to sink vessels of commerce which they don’t like. That makes them terrorists and pirates and a scourge of the seas. Just because they are specific about what vessels they attack doesn’t make them less dangerous. If they are victorious about the whale hunts, they’ll move on to something else. Probably sinking container ships full of leather-lined Acuras coming out and American beef going in.
Japan appears to be hunting for whales for the first time since the 1960s
I believe (and somebody please correct me if I’m wrong)that while hunts have been ongoing, this is the first time since the 1960’s that they are going after humpbacks, killed almost to extinction in the 60’s.
“They’re violent environmental terrorists,” mission leader Hajime Ishikawa said. “Their violence is unforgivable ... We must fight against their hypocrisy and lies.”
Aside from shadowing the Japanise on their hunts, what acts of violence exactly are they engaging in?
What I found a hoot is the slight of hand, the misdirection of masqueading the hunt under the aspices of research and scientific exploration. The plan is to kill 50 humpbacks, 935 minkes, and 50 fin whales in order to conduct research on their reproduction and feeding patterns. You would think a few of each species would satisfy their scientific curiosity.
I like whales and dolphins as much as the next guy, and if these whales are rare then international outrage should be brought to bare, but if they are as prolific as dear (and we all know how these animal loving lunitics rail over Ted Nugent and any sanctioned hunts -hell, 3 times as many dear met their demise as roadkill than are shot by hunters)then Greenpeace should go finder an oil tanker to chase instead and STFU.
dear=deer. oops
What I found a hoot is the slight of hand, the misdirection of masqueading the hunt under the aspices of research and scientific exploration. The plan is to kill 50 humpbacks, 935 minkes, and 50 fin whales in order to conduct research on their reproduction and feeding patterns. You would think a few of each species would satisfy their scientific curiosity.
i think they are only allowed to kill whales under the premise of ‘scientific’ research. However, they have found in the past that whale meat found it’s way to the Japanese seafood market.
I can’t think of how much of the animal would be used for research, and it’s waste not want not in Japan.
What they also aren’t telling you is that these Greenpeace and Sierra Club boats are armed like a warship and have been known to try to sink vessels of commerce which they don’t like.
I have not heard about this. I thought all they did was harass and scare the prey away. Maybe a harpoon strike just under the water line would be in order.
Groups like Greenpeace and Sierra Club emphasize the main fault of Liberalism, its lack of temperance. It takes noble ideas like helping the poor (welfare), the sick (universal healthcare), being good stewards of our planet (environmetalism) then projects solutions beyond prudence so that it enters the realm of absurdity.
Can you imagine Greenpeace getting sunk by the US Navy for piracy? Hysterical!!
I’d pop open a bottle of good scotch to celebrate that..
Can you imagine Greenpeace getting sunk by the US Navy for piracy? Hysterical!!
They need to be worried, in a world with an ever increasing ability to brandish groups as terrorists.
I’d imagine that the admiral’s labelling of these people as terrorists, is a thinly veiled death threat to the people who are going to ‘shadow’ this ship.
I’ve heard of violence towards Norwegian whalers, and I think this group is capable of it. However, the buck stops with most Asian countries. they will return violence.
Families waved little flags emblazoned with smiling whales and the crew raised a toast with cans of beer while a brass band played “Popeye the Sailor Man.”
God - what I wouldn’t give for a photo of that ... hahahahaha(wipes tear)hahahaha!
God - what I wouldn’t give for a photo of that ... hahahahaha(wipes tear)hahahaha!
I know, right? It’s so stupid, it’s fucking hilarious.
Environmental Luddites annoy me as much as anyone here, but on the whaling issue (and whaling alone) I think Greenpeace are absolutely right.
As far as I know, they simply seek to place themselves between the whales and the whalers or, if that’s not possible, lay smoke instead. This is not piracy and I wish them luck.
What is the point of killing, with extreme cruelty, creatures which no-one eats, much less needs?
A Finnish friend oh mine says whale meat is really good, much richer than Reindeer.
What is the point of killing, with extreme cruelty, creatures which no-one eats, much less needs?
I have no clue. i’m surprised there isn’t as much support for the victims of Broneo’s headhunting culture as well.
I know greenpeace seeks to defend the animals which cannot do so for themselves. In my opinion, there are many whales washing up on the California coast lately. I think we should have them frozen and shipped to Japan instead.
Again, I don’t know if there is a particular taste of a Humpback that a japanese person finds appealing.
i’m surprised there isn’t as much support for the victims of Broneo’s headhunting culture as well.
There was a huge British effort to wipe it out sometime in the 19th century, I think. Brooke had something to do with it.
Oh, and in case anyone thinks I’m being a bit wet, I can’t wait for pheasant season to open. But then, there’s plenty of pheasants.
There was a huge British effort to wipe it out sometime in the 19th century, I think. Brooke had something to do with it.
the Indonesian government did some work to eliminate this culture as well. They displaced tribes and moved them to islands often occupied by rival tribes. the result was little genocides by cultures that hadn’t really even a clue they were a part of indonesia at all.
the point of the matter is that greenpeace is worked up over this, and there are just as many moreinjustices the world over. it’s liberal hypocrisy.
the point of the matter is that greenpeace is worked up over this, and there are just as many moreinjustices the world over.
Oh, I know. But this is the only one of Greenpeace’s many and varied hobbyhorses I’d lend any support to, so good luck to them.
Why do you think it’s got anything to do with liberalism?
Why do you think it’s got anything to do with liberalism?
I don’t know, probably being a Michael Morre darling child sets me off a little bit.
I doubt you’d see many Greenpeace voters siding with George Bush on any measure.
These are theboats. This organization is affiliated with the Sierra Club.
I’m inclined to say that’s horseshit, because they simply eat everything out of the ocean. I can’t for the life of me see them not eating this, or being allowed to hunt this for a small nationally backed cult.
You can call this bullshit all you want, but it doesn’t change the facts. This was widely reported - in Japanese and English. Here is the Telegraph’s version. And this answer’s your question too, RIch.
Japan likes killing whales but not eating them
By Colin Joyce in Tokyo
Last Updated: 1:50am GMT 10/02/2006The enthusiasm of Japanese for whaling has surpassed their appetite for actually eating the mammals, leaving retailers with a glut of unsold whale meat.
Despite widespread international opposition, Tokyo plans to kill 1,070 minke whales this year, 400 more than in 2005 and double the number it hunted a decade ago.
But the increase has outpaced demand for eating whale meat in a country where most would rather watch whales than hunt them.
Toshoku, which sells whale meat at Tokyo’s famed Tsukiji fish market, has slashed prices by a quarter but says it is still a hard sell.
Nationwide, more than double the amount of whale meat sits in freezers than is released on to the market each year.
Commercial whaling was banned by the International Whaling Commission in 1986 but Japan has continued to hunt under a loophole allowing whales to be killed for “research”.
Japan then processes the meat, which finds its way to supermarkets and specialist stores across the country.
In the past decade whale has been eaten mostly as a rare treat served in expensive restaurants. But increased supply has left Japan scrambling to attract new fans of the meat.
The dolphin meat that they serve up in Kyushu schools has been found to have such high levels of heavy metals that it not fit for human consumption (top of the food chain, bar one). The government tried to cover this up to protect the local industry, but these things are always worse when they get out the way they do.
Commercial whaling was banned by the International Whaling Commission in 1986 but Japan has continued to hunt under a loophole allowing whales to be killed for “research”.
Interesting, thanks stogy. Do other countries like Russia, Norway, or Sweden use this loophole as well?
It sounds like the law of supply and demand is slowly bringing on the demise of the whaling industry.
Do other countries like Russia, Norway, or Sweden use this loophole as well?
to the best of my recollection, Sweden does not whale. that is strictly a Norwegian enterprse.
I don’t know how they get away with it. They might just be doing it illegally. I do know that whale is available in markets in norther Norway, albeit not condoned for sale by any government entity.
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Actually, this is a bit of a misrepresentation. Very few people here actually eat whale any more. Most people were fed it in junior high but have no real desire to eat it again. The whaling industry is based on pork - a sop to the fishing industry which ...er… hasn’t been doing too well of late.
So the whale rarebits just keep piling on up in the warehouses. Eventually they send a whole lot of it off to the pet food industry, but the whole thing is hopelessly uneconomic. Unfortunately the debate is framed in nationalist terms, but pull the government funding and the whole thing sinks faster than a whale dodging a harpoon.