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Little Silver Ring
by Lee

Now this should be an interesting case to watch, because it concerns issues that are very current and controversial in this country but it’s taking place in the UK.

A teenage schoolgirl will appeal to the High Court on Friday to overturn a ban on her wearing a “purity ring” at school to symbolize her decision to abstain from sex before marriage.

Lydia Playfoot, 16, from West Sussex, says the silver ring is an expression of her faith and should be exempt from the school’s rules on wearing jewellery.

“It is really important to me because in the Bible it says we should do this,” she told BBC radio. “Muslims are allowed to wear headscarves and other faiths can wear bangles and other types of jewellery. It feels like Christians are being discriminated against.”

Playfoot’s lawyers will argue that her right to express religious belief is upheld by the Human Rights Act.

This one should be fun to watch.  I wonder, when she’s 17 and has a screaming kid, will the generous British welfare system still have to pay for it?

Posted by Lee on 06/25/07 at 01:18 PM (Discuss this in the forums)

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Posted by on 06/25/07 at 01:27 PM from United Kingdom

I am in two minds about this.

Firstly, there is the line that the school should be able to decide the uniform. I went to a school where we had a strict uniform, but they did make exceptions for people for certain religious things, e.g. a seek guy’s bracelet. Still, it was just a non issue.

Then there is the line that kids should be able to express themselves and wearing a ring is pretty non offensive.

The problem is should a religious belief be considered relevant to whether that person should be able to circumvent the school’s policy, and for that I would say no. It should make no difference if the kid wants to wear the ring because they are a Christian or because they think wearing the ring will make it more likely aliens might choose her to come to their spaceship.

But how you setup a law to allow that I don’t know, and where you draw the line I don’t know either.

Posted by on 06/25/07 at 01:28 PM from United Kingdom

I meant sikh of course.

Posted by Hal_10000 on 06/25/07 at 01:30 PM from United States

I would have no problem with her wearing the ring as long she takes it off once she finishes up in the back seat of a car.

Posted by on 06/25/07 at 01:46 PM from United States

I’m of the opinion that dress codes shouldn’t make allowances for religions.  After all, there are too many of the damned things to keep straight, they are all nonsense anyway, and once you start making exceptions you might as well toss the whole thing to the side and let people wear whatever the hell they want.

Also, I’d like to know just where in the bible it says to wear a virginity ring.  New one to me, and I’ve actually read the retarded little text (as fiction goes, it’s pretty unoriginal and poorly written).

Of course, prohibiting all jewelry is pretty retarded.  To start with, earrings are so common as to be almost standard issue for people under 45

Posted by on 06/25/07 at 03:07 PM from United Kingdom

I don’t care if she wears some stupid plastic ring to school or not, any more than I care whether a Muslim wears a veil or not.  Her parents, who led this sect/cult/whatever, are probably using her case to get publicity as she isn’t even at the school now.  And the government are wasting my tax money listening to them.  Not that the current government gives a shit about taxpayers’ money of course.

Posted by on 06/25/07 at 03:29 PM from United States

So wearing a prince albert is out of the question too?

I think people should be free to express whatever delusional fantasy they happen to believe in. I mean, without these outward displays of faith, how am I to know who I should dismiss as a crackpot?

Posted by on 06/25/07 at 03:31 PM from United States

Virginity rings are just a broadcast message that you give great head.

Posted by dakrat on 06/25/07 at 03:38 PM from United States

So this is a public funded British school that doesn’t allow jewelry?  I take it that in the UK they don’t do class rings either like we do in the states?

Posted by on 06/25/07 at 03:42 PM from United States

So wearing a prince albert is out of the question too?

Yeah, exactly how are they going to write that one up?  Or pierced nipples, labia, etc…

Teacher:  Principle, we need to expel Johnny for wearing jewelry.

Principle:  Really, what jewelry is he wearing

Teacher:  He’s got a Prince Albert, and it felt wicked cool when it right spot while were doing it doggy style....

Posted by dakrat on 06/25/07 at 03:48 PM from United States

Teacher:  He’s got a Prince Albert, and it felt wicked cool when it right spot while were doing it doggy style....

So that’s how all these smokin’ hot slut teachers are getting caught these days!!!  LOL

Posted by on 06/25/07 at 03:50 PM from United States

What if you’re teeth are all crunked up? Is that jewlelry?

Posted by on 06/25/07 at 05:07 PM from United Kingdom

Muslims are allowed to wear headscarves and other faiths can wear bangles and other types of jewellery.

She’s only half-right here. Lots of schools permit it for the sake of a quiet life, but there was a ruling only last year which said there was no legal right to breach your school uniform. It was about a Muslim girl who wanted to wear a veil in class, IIRC.

I don’t see why the school fought it though. If she’s 16 she’ll only be there for another two years at most, and by fighting the school have given the silver-ring movement the oxygen of publicity. That, I suspect, was what they were after all along.

Posted by dakrat on 06/25/07 at 05:42 PM from United States

OT:  Way back when the deplorable conditions at Walter Reed came to light I emailed my Senators and Representative.  I just now finally got a form email back from my representative.  How pitiful is that?

Posted by on 06/25/07 at 06:19 PM from United Kingdom

Woho, sane people 1 : fundies 0.

creationism not to be taught in public schools in UK

Posted by West Virginia Rebel on 06/25/07 at 06:21 PM from United States

This is something that girls would do. I mean, how many guys have you ever seen with a “Virginity bracelet,” for instance?

OT but did anyone else hear about WWE star Chris Benoit...just damn.

Posted by West Virginia Rebel on 06/25/07 at 06:37 PM from United States

Padders: Related: the EU gets at least one thing right.

Posted by on 06/25/07 at 07:22 PM from United Kingdom

Padders: Related: the EU gets at least one thing right.

Yup, good news all round; it seems to be an anti wacko week in Europe :)

Posted by on 06/25/07 at 07:23 PM from United Kingdom

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Posted by on 06/25/07 at 07:24 PM from United Kingdom

Not sure if that fixed it. I really can’t understand how a new version of this software still has this bug; it’s a major security issue as well - if I spent some time working out the best way, creating an XSS attack to steal anybodies login credentials on here would not be hard.

Posted by Lee on 06/25/07 at 07:33 PM from United States

I fixed it.  I’ve reported the bug a thousand fucking times, and the fucking pricks at EE refuse to fix it for some reason.  It would take, literally, an hour to write the code.

Fucking douchebags.

Posted by on 06/25/07 at 10:15 PM from United States

Personally, I’ve always thought that insofar as schools need uniforms, the toffee-nosed versions they use in the UK are not appropriate.  For schools, a livery of “barry argent and sable, semee of pheons countercharged” would be more appropriate.  If you don’t know what that means, look up your nearest SCA chapter and ask a herald.

Posted by on 06/26/07 at 12:04 AM from United Kingdom

Here is what may be the real story behind all this.  It shows how the news can be manipulated.

http://tinyurl.com/3x66cf

Posted by on 06/26/07 at 12:24 AM from United Kingdom

By the way, Lee, I thought this might be a good quote for your banner:

“From Ayatollah Khomeini..."Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humour in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious."”

Posted by West Virginia Rebel on 06/26/07 at 01:29 AM from United States

How about, “Islam is the Happy Fun Ball of religions?”

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