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Junior Die School
by Lee

Here’s the latest gun control success.

A suicidal eighth grader who pulled a handgun in class and forced another child into a closet was shot by a sheriff’s SWAT team member Friday when he later threatened deputies, Seminole County officials said.

Sheriff Don Eslinger said the 15-year-old boy brought the gun to Milwee Middle School in his backpack. Eslinger said two students saw it and one persuaded the other to report it, causing a scuffle.

The alleged gunman told one of the students to go into a closet, ran from the classroom and “traveled with this firearm throughout the campus,” Eslinger said. Deputies eventually isolated him in a restroom, and the school was evacuated.

“At one time he held the gun to his neck. As the deputies attempted to establish dialogue, he raised the firearm and lethal force was used by the sheriff’s office,” Eslinger said.

The boy was taken to the hospital. His condition was unknown.

“He was suicidal,” Eslinger said. “During this standoff, and during the chase, the student said he was going to kill himself or die.”

Note to gun control folks:  it’s totally illegal for an eighth grader to own a gun.  It’s a federal offense to take one to school.  And there’s probably 100 other laws that this kid broke, too, yet none of them prevented him from getting a weapon anyway.  If a determined kid can get ahold of a firearm and bring it to school with the intention of killing himself, what’s to stop a professional criminal from doing exactly the same thing? 

But keep working to disarm the law-abiding public, won’t you.  Just keep telling yourself that it will make you safer.  The more times you say it the more plausible it sounds.

Posted by Lee on 01/13/06 at 01:32 PM (Discuss this in the forums)

Comments


Posted by on 01/13/06 at 02:42 PM from United States

While the law for owning handguns (pistols) states that you have to be 21 to buy one from a dealer, I’m not so sure how it applies to rifles, shotguns, gifts and private sales.

I know I bought my first rifle at a sporting goods store when I was 14, and through my father also purchased a pair of pistols when I was 16 or 17.  I bought several other rifles before I turned 18 as well.

Posted by Drumwaster on 01/13/06 at 02:44 PM from United States

Well, that’s because you’re SUPERMAN! The rules obviously don’t apply to you.

Posted by on 01/13/06 at 02:54 PM from United States

Woo-hoo!!! Multi-thread flaming!!! 

Damn kids can’t finish anythng they start these days.  Couldn’t evevn get suicide-by-cop done right.  He should have come to Portland, the PD there is very good at that.

Posted by on 01/13/06 at 02:59 PM from United States

Woo-hoo!!! Multi-thread flaming!!!

JimK must have upgraded the server.

Posted by on 01/13/06 at 03:01 PM from United States

Any person transferring a gun to a juvenile, by sale, gift, or loan may be charged with a felony under federal law 18 US Code section 922(b) and section 924…
It is not specifically illegal (in every state) for a juvenile to have a gun.  It is only illegal to transfer a gun to the juvenile.  Under federal law, it is illegal for a juvenile to possess a pistol or ammunition which can only be used in a pistol.....Source:  Missouri Weapons and Self Defense Law by Kevin Jamison.

Posted by on 01/13/06 at 03:31 PM from United States

Oooh, just came over the radio:  It was a pellet gun.  Ban all toys now!

Posted by HARLEY on 01/13/06 at 03:33 PM from United States

Any person transferring a gun to a juvenile, by sale, gift, or loan may be charged with a felony under federal law 18 US Code section 922(b) and section 924…
It is not specifically illegal (in every state) for a juvenile to have a gun.  It is only illegal to transfer a gun to the juvenile.  Under federal law, it is illegal for a juvenile to possess a pistol or ammunition which can only be used in a pistol.....Source:  Missouri Weapons and Self Defense Law by Kevin Jamison.

wow my dad must have commented several dozen felonies when i was a kid here in Missouri.

Posted by on 01/13/06 at 03:35 PM from United States

Ah, poor little Drumwaster still acting like an 8-year old.  Going to grow up any time soon and act like an adult?

Posted by Drumwaster on 01/13/06 at 03:41 PM from United States

And you’re using yourself as an example of what you mean by “adult”, are you? In that case, I have already outgrown that. And you. Back when I was really looking forward to kindergarten.

Maybe you’ll grow out of it, too. But I won’t hold my breath.

C’mon, tell us more…

Posted by on 01/13/06 at 03:55 PM from United States

I don’t know about anyone else, but I graduated from the eighth grade when I was 13.

[putting on moonbat hat]Awwww, the poor child was probably hurting and suffering from poor self-esteem! He needs to be coddled and moved along with the rest of his peers. Don’t punish him, as that would send the wrong message.[/moonbat hat]

Posted by Poosh on 01/13/06 at 03:57 PM from United Kingdom

What the hell, OT, but I’m listening to Clinton on the BBC and he seems to support an invasion of Iraq, just not on WMD grounds - i.e. he would be fully behind a war with full UNSC approval…

So he didn’t support the way we went to war but he supported the spirit.

Posted by Drumwaster on 01/13/06 at 04:23 PM from United States

So then why exactly did he go to war with them in ‘98? The chocolate milk rivers?

Posted by on 01/13/06 at 04:45 PM from United States

chocolate milk rivers....

If you want to view paradise/simply look around and view it/anything you want to, do it/wanna change the world there’s nothing to it....

Posted by on 01/13/06 at 05:20 PM from United States

Of course! It’s all about the chocolate, people!

Posted by West Virginia Rebel on 01/13/06 at 05:22 PM from United States

Little Italian: I noticed that, too-maybe he was going to junior high on the Ten Year Plan…

BREAKING NEWS CNN, MSNBC, Fox all reporting that Zawahiri may be dead, killed in an airstrike in Pakistan.

Posted by on 01/13/06 at 06:24 PM from United States

Gee, drum, didn’t your parent ever teach you manners?

Or perhaps that “xtain or death” type church you belong to forgot to tell you that even “heathens” deserve better than the rabid punditry from 2nd raters such as yourself.

But I forget, I’m rich and important and powerfull and all-seeing and superman and batman and a real prince.

Let me know when you come with some insults that I haven’t seen junior high students sling back and forth.

Posted by Drumwaster on 01/13/06 at 06:39 PM from United States

But I forget, I’m rich and important and powerfull and all-seeing and superman and batman and a real prince.

Look, everybody (and I do mean EVERYBODY) knows that you are really none of those things. (Which is why it’s so funny to hear you talk about yourself as though you actually were, but that’s another issue.)

Which would make my use of them when describing you sardonic, which IS an advanced form of grown-up humor, I admit. And that, in turn, explains why you didn’t understand it.

Let me know when you come with some insults that I haven’t seen junior high students sling back and forth.

Given that you haven’t matured enough to comprehend grown-up humor (see above), are you sure you want to limit yourself even further? Comfort levels and all that?

Posted by Drumwaster on 01/13/06 at 06:43 PM from United States

that “xtain or death” type church you belong to

Which one is that, then, aXt? Be specific. Remember, though, I’ll be laughing at you when you get it wrong. But let’s see if you have the balls to even try to guess.

Posted by Poosh on 01/13/06 at 06:45 PM from United Kingdom

But I forget, I’m rich and important and powerfull and all-seeing and superman and batman and a real prince.

No, you’re just a twat.

Posted by on 01/13/06 at 06:53 PM from United States

Guns can be used not only for recreation, but self-defense.  Any country that considers itself free shouldn’t dream of outlawing them.  Of course, most of us likely agree.  Now what.

Posted by on 01/13/06 at 07:30 PM from United States

Or perhaps that “xtain or death” type church you belong to forgot to tell you that even “heathens” deserve better than the rabid punditry from 2nd raters such as yourself.

Dude, WTF are you talking about? Drum is one least fundie people on this blog. I’ve heard him defend religious freedoms here more times than I can remember.

I guess our excessive rainfall is having some strange effects on our neighbors to the north.

Posted by on 01/13/06 at 07:46 PM from United States

Oooh, just came over the radio:  It was a pellet gun.  Ban all toys now!

You know what they say, “Pellet guns don’t kill people...at all”

Posted by Section8 on 01/13/06 at 10:19 PM from United States

A little OT:

At least the lefty NY Times reporter that was murdered recently wasn’t shot to death. He should be thankful. Bludgeoning is much safer, and makes us look more sophisticated and civilized to the rest of the world.

Posted by Drumwaster on 01/13/06 at 10:32 PM from United States

Yeah, we should be more like the Dutch, where people aren’t gunned down for their shoes, they’re stabbed to death because they offended someone.

Or the French, where hundreds of cars being burned by “youths of unspecified religious background” is considered “back to normal”.

Posted by on 01/14/06 at 10:58 AM from United States

What’s driving me up the wall about this is the usual cacophony of Moonbats with their Mantra of “Why didn’t they shoot him in the......(Leg, Arm take you pick.)”

Or, “Why didn’t they us a Taser or a Bean Bag gun?”

Posted by on 01/14/06 at 12:15 PM from United States

You know what they say, “Pellet guns don’t kill people...at all”

Looks like the teenaged nitwit who got himself shot proved that assertion wrong…

Posted by on 01/14/06 at 12:28 PM from United States

You know what they say, “Pellet guns don’t kill people...at all”

Actually if you hit someone in the head enough times with it you can.

Posted by on 01/14/06 at 03:04 PM from United States

Zawahiri NOT dead
Kid with pellet gun, dead.

Posted by Drumwaster on 01/14/06 at 05:50 PM from United States

Zawahiri NOT dead
Kid with pellet gun, dead.

Put Zawahiri in a small room pointing a gun at SWAT team members, and he’d be dead, too.

You don’t like life? Pull a gun on a cop, and you’ll be given an express ticket to the next plane of existence.

Meanwhile bleeding hearts back here won’t bother actually blaming the one who broke the law, but they will castigate the cops for doing their jobs.

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