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Islammmm Bork Bork
by Lee

The Swedes may be among the most tolerant people on Earth, but Swedish Muslims are just as intolerant and prone to threats of violence as any other Muslims anywhere in the world.

Several hundred Muslims protested on Sunday at a pentecostal church in Stockholm against a preacher who denigrated Islam’s prophet Mohammed, calling him a “confused pedophile.”

According to police, about 400 Muslim protesters, including women and children, gathered in front of the Philadelphia Church, the main site of the pentacostal movement in Sweden.

In March at the same church, Runar Søgaard, a 37-year-old Norwegian preacher living in Sweden, had made comments about several religions including Islam.

“Mohammed, he is not God, he was a confused pedophile… Read the story of what Mohammed did. He married girls at age nine, 11,” Søgaard said in a sermon which was sold on a CD by his followers.

A statement signed by “Muslims of Sweden” called Søgaard’s remarks “immature and ridiculous,” noting that at the time when the prophet lived girls were married at very young ages.

After Søgaard’s sermon was reported in the Swedish press, the preacher has tried to justify his remarks.

“I made humorous descriptions of different religions, including Christianity,” Søgaard said in a television interview last week.

Sogaard, who is not a member of the Philadelphia Church but has his own religious group, is under police protection having received threats, according to his followers.

I wonder if 400 Swedish Muslims have ever gotten together to protest the extremists who have bastardized their religion.  I doubt it.  But some numb nuts preacher calls a man who married a nine year old girl a pedophile, and whoa!

Posted by Lee on 04/25/05 at 02:37 PM (Discuss this in the forums)

Comments


Posted by on 04/25/05 at 04:42 PM from United States

[Mohammed] married girls at age nine, 11

Actually, I believed he married Aisha at age 6, but was persuaded to wait until she was 9 to consummate the marriage.  Now that that’s clear, let’s all convert to Islam!

Posted by on 04/25/05 at 04:55 PM from United States

Everyday there are stories like this that refute the liberal claim that America has turned into Iran.  Can I even say G-O-D in public anymore?  When will people wake up and realize that there isn’t room for anything other than Islam?  Sharia is supreme over all religions, all goverments, all cultures and all people.  Wake up!!!

Posted by on 04/25/05 at 05:14 PM from United States

Its not pedophilia when your a muslim male.  Everyone else, prepare to meet their maker.

Posted by Jacob Oost on 04/25/05 at 05:42 PM from United States

Ew.

Posted by Manwhore on 04/25/05 at 06:04 PM from United States

Many Muslims feel picked on by the Swedes and I could understand when I lived there. They were equally abusive to the USA and Americans. They are also pretty pissed that they are only there to sweep floors.

On another note the largest mosque in Stockholm is in söder malm at the Medboijarsplatsen stop from the subway. It is quiet and and they dont do the call to prayer from a loudspeaker. It was weird to see converted Swedish women blonde and blue married to Arabs. I saw one swedish girl in a full burkha and gloves.

The biggest show of violence I saw there was Palestinians and Israeli sympathetic jews clashing over money raised to fund settlements. Rock throwing quickly squelched by the police. Ill dig this article out of the newspaper in Sweden.

Posted by West Virginia Rebel on 04/25/05 at 06:19 PM from United States

Well, now we know why Michael Jackson converted.

Posted by Lee on 04/25/05 at 06:30 PM from United States

Come on, no props for the title of this post?  I thought it was hilarious. :)

Posted by Drumwaster on 04/25/05 at 06:38 PM from United States

I’d poke you in the eye, but you’d probably ban me… ;-)

Posted by Jason on 04/25/05 at 06:41 PM from United States

Yeah Lee, love the muppet reference.

Rhymes with ‘pork’ too, coincidentally.

Why not try my Random Qu’ran Verse Generator 1.0 for a good time?  It’s new and Allah wants you to get your islamic fortune cookie with delay, infidel.

Posted by Jason on 04/25/05 at 06:51 PM from United States

I was just a boy when the infidels came into my village in their Black Hawk helicopters. The infidels fired at the oil fields and they lit up like the eyes of Allah. Burning oil rained down from the sky and cooked everything it touched. I could only hide myself and cry as my goats were consumed by the fire of black liquid death. In the midst of the chaos, I could swear that I heard my goats… screaming for help. As quickly as they’d come the infidels were gone. It was on that day… I put a jihad on them.  And if you don’t believe it, then you’d better kill me now, because I’ll put a jihad on you too.

Posted by Mister Minit on 04/25/05 at 07:15 PM from Europe

Come on, no props for the title of this post?  I thought it was hilarious. :)

I don’t get it.

Posted by Drumwaster on 04/25/05 at 07:20 PM from United States

You must be too young to remember the Swedish Chef.

(I always dug on the old guys up in the box seats, myself. They had a vicious sense of humor.)

Posted by on 04/25/05 at 07:40 PM from United States

The muppet show ruled. It was like the “thing/fad” before the Simpsons cames along to be the next big thing. IMO

Posted by on 04/25/05 at 08:28 PM from Australia

A Swedish girl in full burkha and gloves? Glad I’ve never seen anything like that, I dont think I would have been able to control my projectile vomiting.

If it ever comes to an open fight between Swedes and Muslims, where will people like this girl stand? Will she turn traitor to her own people? Well, she already has, so I guess thats a rhetorical question. Maybe they will get the same treatment as European women who consorted with the German occupation forces - head shaved, marched out of town by a jeering crowd.

Call me a bigot, but this makes me quite ill. Any western woman who converts to Islam has serious mental problems.

Posted by Jason on 04/25/05 at 08:33 PM from United States

yeah, remember when steve martin was on it?  swass.

Posted by Manwhore on 04/25/05 at 08:42 PM from United States

Come on, no props for the title of this post?  I thought it was hilarious. :)

Yeah the post was alright, but a Dolph Lungren poke would have been even better.

Islam, and the Masters of the Swedishverse!

A Swedish girl in full burkha and gloves?

Believe it. Sweden puts out a lot of hate news about how much Swedish people drink. Many of them consider a viable solution to the problem coverting to Islam.

Posted by Dan Kauffman on 04/25/05 at 09:18 PM from United States

Who really cares about what happened 1400 years ago. Swedes have reasons to be concerned about pedophiles TODAY.

Muslim Rape Epidemic in Sweden and Norway—Authorities Look the Other Way

“Numbers released in January 2005 indicate a sharp rise in the number of rape charges in Malmö, Sweden’s third largest city:

Thomas Anderberg, responsible for statistics at the Malmö Police, says there was a doubling of the number of reported rapes by ambush in 2004, following what was already a decade of steadily increasing numbers of sexual crimes.—I think that’s great news, says Anna Gustafsson, head of the Domestic Violence Unit at the Malmö Police. She suggests that the increase is due to the fact that women who otherwise wouldn’t press charges for rape now choose to contact the police.

In other words, Gustafsson claims that we are dealing with a “technical” increase, not a real one. However, national statistics reveal that reported rapes against children have almost doubled in Sweden during the past ten years:”

“According to Swedish Radio on Tuesday, statistics from Sweden’s National Council for Crime Prevention show that the number of reported rapes against children is on the rise. The figures have nearly doubled in the last ten years: 467 rapes against children under the age of 15 were reported in 2004 compared with 258 in 1995. Legal proceedings continue this week in a case involving a 13 year old girl from Motala who was said to have been subjected to a group rape by four men. (Note: These four men were Kurdish Muslims, who raped the girl for hours and even took photos of doing so)”

“The number of rape charges per capita in Malmö is 5—6 times that of Copenhagen, Denmark. Copenhagen is a larger city, but the percentage of immigrants is much lower. And it’s not just the rape statistics that reveal a scary increase in Malmö or Sweden. Virtually every kind of violent crime is on the rise. Robberies have increased with 50 % in Malmö only during the fall of 2004. Threats against witnesses in Swedish court cases have quadrupled between 2000 and 2003. During the past few decades, massive immigration has changed the face of Sweden’s major cities, as well as challenged the viability of the welfare state. In 1970 Sweden had the fourth highest GDP per capita among developed countries with income about 6% above the OECD average. By 1997 it was at fifteenth place with an average GDP per capita 14% below average. Malmö has a heavy concentration of Muslim immigrants in particular. According to some estimates, it will be a Muslim majority city in no more then 10 years. Crime is rampant in the growing ghettos:”

“Alarmed at last week’s police statistics, which revealed that in 68% of all rapes committed this year the perpetrator was from an ethnic minority, leading Muslim organisations have now formed an alliance to fight the ever-growing problem of young second and third-generation immigrants involved in rape cases against young Danish girls.

As Robert Spencer has demonstrated, rape can indeed be linked to Islamic teachings of Jihad, and even to the example of Muhammad himself, his Sunna. Above all, it is connected to Islamic notions of the role of women in society, and their behaviour in the public sphere. An Islamic Mufti in Copenhagen sparked a political outcry after publicly declaring that women who refuse to wear headscarves are “asking for rape.” Apparently, he isn’t the only Muslim in Europe to think this way:”

“The German journalist Udo Ulfkotte told in a recent interview that in Holland, you can now see examples of young, unveiled Moroccan women with a so-called “smiley”. It means that the girl gets one side of her face cut up from mouth to ear, serving as a warning to other Muslim girls who should refuse to wear the veil. In the Muslim suburb of Courneuve, France, 77 per cent of the veiled women carry veils reportedly because of fear of being harassed or molested by Islamic moral patrols.”

“Rape charges in the capital are spiraling upwards, 40 percent higher from 1999 to 2000 and up 13 percent so far this year. Police Inspector Gunnar Larsen of Oslo’s Vice, Robbery and Violent crime division says the statistics are surprising—the rising number of rape cases and the link to ethnic background are both clear trends. But Larsen does not want to speculate on the reasons behind the worrying developments. While 65 percent of those charged with rape are classed as coming from a non-western background, this segment makes up only 14.3 percent of Oslo’s population. Norwegian women were the victims in 80 percent of the cases, with 20 percent being women of foreign background”

Posted by Manwhore on 04/25/05 at 11:01 PM from United States

Who really cares about what happened 1400 years ago. Swedes have reasons to be concerned about pedophiles TODAY.

Have you ever lived in Sweden, Dan?

I lived there for over a year and did notice that rape was a problem. However, rape is not mostly commited by Arabs, but rather by Swedes on Swedes. They go out drinking on Saturday and strange things happen.

There are problems in Mälmö with Arabs who dominate in ethnic areas but the same problems exist in many other European countries. Simply stated Turks and Kurds and many other Arabs import their tribal bickering and remain Klanish wherever they go. Sweden tries to integrate the Arabs they import with education and culture. sometimes it works and other times the Arabs feel left out.

Sweden after WW2 created this project called the million man project where they built Courbusier esqe cities to house what was then a milllion immigrants thy needed to industrialize. Brasilia and this share one thing in common, they didnt work. If you ever see those little projects they are dismal areas with no life and poor human touch. They are also very isolated from the city,leaving the immigrants to feel left out.

Many Arabs then grow up in sweden with little education and a government paycheck. Where in America does that remind you of_ High crime exists, Hashish abuse and all of it payed for by the Swedish government.

It is a little more complex than just Islam, but Islam plays a role in the problem.

Posted by Dan Kauffman on 04/26/05 at 12:22 AM from United States

Have you ever lived in Sweden, Dan?

No I have not but I traced back the sources for this article and the last one in English

A blog about Islam in Scandinavia, Eurabia, Norwegian affairs, leftist stupidity, global politics and whatever else interests me
Before

Kraftig ökning av överfalls-våldtäkterna

Which seems to be in Swedish, now maybe fjordman is an Ex-pat like you were or a Native, I cannot tell.

I do note that the article states.

“While 65 percent of those charged with rape are classed as coming from a non-western background, this segment makes up only 14.3 percent of Oslo’s population. Norwegian women were the victims in 80 percent of the cases, with 20 percent being women of foreign background.”

Maybe Oslo is an exception to your claim that,

“However, rape is not mostly commited by Arabs, but rather by Swedes on Swedes”

Correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn’t 65% be considered pretty near to “most”?

The failure to assmilate the immigrant population is of course a large factor, but the cultural traits as exemplified by “An Islamic Mufti in Copenhagen sparked a political outcry after publicly declaring that women who refuse to wear headscarves are “asking for rape.”

Do YOU claim that

“Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes” because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. The professor’s conclusion was not that Muslim men living in the West needed to adjust to Western norms, but the exact opposite: “Norwegian women must realize that we live in a multicultural society and adapt themselves to it.”

Posted by on 04/26/05 at 01:33 AM from Australia

If I were a Norwegian woman and this creepy professor told me that I would have to ‘adapt’ to the sexual repressions of primitive immigrants that I didnt want in my country in the first place, I would go around to his house and kick him in the balls hard enough to do considerable damage.

And if they sent me to prison, I would still consider it well worth it.

BTW, do the females in his family dress to appease Muslims - or does he make sure to live in a Muslim-free area?

Posted by Manwhore on 04/26/05 at 04:45 AM from United States

Dan Kauffman,

I read the websites provided. I can honestly say when Sweden mentions right wing the are reffering to facist factions. They do not mean republicans.

the websites.

The first is by Norwegians. Norwegians think that any and I mean any invasion on their way of life is to be stomped out. They are so extreme that they believe themselves to be a pure Aryan race. Do you really think you ally yourself with that position?

The Swedish site:

I read it and it is very informative. It shows how Swedes are very scared of importing immigrants, almost in a similiar way to saying that you live next to a black man. they are very scared to share land with the help. Islam really helps them to demonize their new neighbors.

Think of it like this. Imagine that America decided that black people deserved all the same rights as white people. They then took over your hometown and made it manditory that you meet and greet the neighbors sweeping the floors. Many would be pissed that the guy sweeping the floors shared the same space as you do.

Now the government fights to integrate people or stick with the thinly veiled system of feudalism that exists today. Where do you stand? If America had the same system they could have the native people squabbling over Mexican legitimacy to do the job of a good American.

Islam is not the issue, it is the foreign immigrants right to take something over, and the implication over society. Sorry the country was not built on immigrants and they deal the best way they know how.

I can honestly say that their system has done its best job to leave no one behind, ours makes no procession for the poor. We make no excuses for them and regard them as vermin to be contained. Difference of opinion.

If you can get over your fear of religion, Islamic people make many aspects of your life go around. Your gas comes from the ME and you dont need to worry about a nukular bomb coming from them. They only desire to sell you gas. America would like to sell you that everyone conspires to hate you but it is simply not true. Many, if not all depend on the USA economy to survive. ther is no interest in them to disrupt that. I find it curious that you think there is some huge Islamic conspiracy. Where?

they want what we have. They have another religion and rules we adhere to.

I claim nothing except what I know. I lived in Sweden and the Islamic problem is no more real than getting run over by a car on the way to work. 

Basically, non existant.

Posted by Dan Kauffman on 04/26/05 at 05:46 PM from United States

The first is by Norwegians. Norwegians think that any and I mean any invasion on their way of life is to be stomped out. They are so extreme that they believe themselves to be a pure Aryan race. Do you really think you ally yourself with that position?

I see. Muslims are merely poor understood petroleum peddlers and Norweigians are Xenophobic Facists?

Well I am not pure anything least of all Ayran, but I do have a chunk of Cherokee and I will have to admit that if some of my ancestors and their cousins had had the attitude as you so sucinclty put it to “stomp out any invasion of their land and culture at the very start the history of the North American continent might have bee different.

And of course we all know about the massive death toll the Norweigan Religous Wars have brought in the last generation, the airliners downed by Norweigan terrorists and the Norweigan Committees for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice
that go around slashing the faces of Unchaste girls.  Yes the world must be protected from Norweigan xenophobia.

Now in responce to your query

I find it curious that you think there is some huge Islamic conspiracy. Where?

The charge that the Muslim religion teaches violence and hatred:

The world’s three leading mainstream Sunni Muslim figures all espouse violence and hatred.

Sheikh Abd Al-Rahman Al-Sudayyis is the Saudi government-appointed imam of the Grand Mosque in Mecca. Themes of his sermons are characterized by confrontation toward non-Muslims. Al-Sudayyis calls Jews “scum of the earth” and “monkeys and pigs” who should be “annihilated.” Other enemies of Islam, he says, are “worshippers of the cross” and “idol-worshipping Hindus.”

Sheikh Muhammad Sayyed Tantawi is head of Egypt’s Al-Azhar University, Sunni Islam’s most prestigious establishment. Under Tantawi’s leadership, Al-Azhar has declared jihad against the U.S. repeatedly, and has called for suicide attacks against American forces in Iraq as recently as August.  He has called Jews “apes and pigs.” CAIR invited Tantawi to speak in D.C. at its 10th annual dinner last month.

Sheikh Yousef Al-Qaradhawi is considered the spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood movement, and increasingly influences European Muslims through his roles as head of both The European Council for Fatwa and Research and The International Council of Muslim Clerics. He has called for Islam to conquer Europe, expressed support for suicide attacks, and most recently issued a fatwa calling on Muslims to attack U.S. troops.

There is one other little bit that influences me.
Don’t be mislead by my last name. My father was Pennsylvania-Dutch and my mother is what is called where I come from Cherokee-Irish, I recall my Great Aunt who was a medicine woman telling me as a boy “Danny you just look white, NEVER forget you are really Cherokee.” I am by ancestory and choice, not Jewish, not Christian, but Pagan.

In Sudand the Pagan and Christian peasants slaughtered by Islamic Jihad number in the millions. Yes I believe there is “some huge Islamic conspiracy” It is called Wahhabi Sunni and its manifestation is Jihad.

What is happening in the Sudan:

Forced conversions to Islam are government policy.
Churches are closed, destroyed or not allowed to be built.
Christian prayer groups are considered a public disturbance, Bible teachers are considered leaders of disruptive groups and are arrested.
Open preaching is prohibited and can garner a beating or jail time.
The government, the National Islamic Front regime, has declared jihad against religious and ethnic minorities that resist Islamization. Approximately 2 million have died in the conflict since it began in 1983.

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