if these limits may, at any time, be passed by those intended to be restrained?"
-- Chief Justice John Marshall, Marbury v. Madison, 1803
I’ll Cut Out Her Heart And Carry It With Me Forever
by Hal_10000
Seriously, folks. WTF!
For Abdel-Qader Ali there is only one regret: that he did not kill his daughter at birth. ‘If I had realised then what she would become, I would have killed her the instant her mother delivered her,’ he said with no trace of remorse.
Two weeks after The Observer revealed the shocking story of Rand Abdel-Qader, 17, murdered because of her infatuation with a British soldier in Basra, southern Iraq, her father is defiant. Sitting in the front garden of his well-kept home in the city’s Al-Fursi district, he remains a free man, despite having stamped on, suffocated and then stabbed his student daughter to death.
Abdel-Qader, 46, a government employee, was initially arrested but released after two hours. Astonishingly, he said, police congratulated him on what he had done. ‘They are men and know what honour is,’ he said.
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It was her first youthful infatuation and it would be her last. She died on 16 March after her father discovered she had been seen in public talking to Paul, considered to be the enemy, the invader and a Christian. Though her horrified mother, Leila Hussein, called Rand’s two brothers, Hassan, 23, and Haydar, 21, to restrain Abdel-Qader as he choked her with his foot on her throat, they joined in. Her shrouded corpse was then tossed into a makeshift grave without ceremony as her uncles spat on it in disgust.
‘Death was the least she deserved,’ said Abdel-Qader. ‘I don’t regret it. I had the support of all my friends who are fathers, like me, and know what she did was unacceptable to any Muslim that honours his religion,’ he said.
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He said his daughter’s ‘bad genes were passed on from her mother’. Rand’s mother, 41, remains in hiding after divorcing her husband in the immediate aftermath of the killing, living in fear of retribution from his family. She also still bears the scars of the severe beating he inflicted on her, breaking her arm in the process, when she told him she was going. ‘They cannot accept me leaving him. When I first left I went to a cousin’s home, but every day they were delivering notes to my door saying I was a prostitute and deserved the same death as Rand,’ she said.
What a bunch of savages.
If you need to wipe the taste out of your mouth, here’s a story of a US soldier helping a cripple Iraqi girl get prosthetic legs. This is how civilized people act.
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Ed.. Yeah, as much as I hate to see us just up and leave, and as much as you’d think most people in the world would jump at the chance to become a free and democratic country, stories like this just remind me how backwards so many people still are.
In the end, there are still just too many people living in the past with brutal beliefs that just won’t ever accept freedom for the people around them as it “offends” them and/or their beliefs.
I find the actions/responses of those around the main perpetrator to be a far more telling sign then his actions specifically too.
Let’s not forget how far women’s rights have come in Afghanistan:
A WOMAN who was trafficked across the border from Pakistan with her son, 3, was handed to an Afghan who raped her, then beat the toddler to death as she watched.
He was jailed for 20 years for murder - but the woman, Rukhma, was jailed, too.
She had put up with her mistreatment for three months before going to authorities.
But in December, Rukhma, who doesn’t know her age but looks younger than 20, was given a four-year sentence for adultery and “escaping her house” in Pakistan.
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The chief prosecutor of eastern Nangarhar province, who oversaw Rukhma’s case, suggested she got off lightly.
“If my wife goes to the bazaar without my permission, I will kill her. This is our culture,” Abdul Qayum shouted scornfully.
His colleagues laughed approvingly. “This is Afghanistan, not America,” Mr Qayum said.
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Prosecutor Qayum in unrepentant: “She spent several nights with the man. She committed adultery. It was rape, but the woman is also guilty.”
Go go Karzai…
This is the kind of stuff that makes me think like the “nuke them back to the dark ages” crowd. Until I remember that they’re still there…
This is the kind of stuff that makes me think like the “nuke them back to the dark ages” crowd. Until I remember that they’re still there…
There were times during the various African crisis , my ol man said something that bothered me. “Spray’em.”
Stories like this make me rage.
I find the actions/responses of those around the main perpetrator to be a far more telling sign then his actions specifically too.
Oh indeed....exactly. We have savage murderers here too, but we dont usually join in( I dont think I have ever met someone who would in a moments notice help their father continue to kill their sister) and then have our cops congratulate them. Time to pack up shop. Fuck em.
The nexzt guy who tries to morally or socially equate Fundies or other religious westerners in this country with militan Islam can kindly refer to this thread.......then kiss my rear.
The nexzt guy who tries to morally or socially equate Fundies or other religious westerners in this country with militan Islam can kindly refer to this thread.......then kiss my rear.
Oh, why wait…
I cant morally equate the two, because they obviously have different moral foundations. One advocates a private personal relationship with God that elevates the status of Man, abd evey individual man and woman no matter how common, while the other advocates complete and total submission to God’s will.
Now socially? not a problem.
Its just your religion combined with your culture doesnt advocate this kind of thing. If it did, you’d be doing it, and thinking you were right as that you’d only be acting out on your faith, just like you do now. Its not like you would be any more likely to think. You’re not particularly thoughtful now, and being raised the way this guy was raised wouldnt help with that. Remember the crusades, and the spanish inquistion? More people have died in the name of Jesus Christ than Hitler. Do you honestly believe that you chose your faith based on its rationality? Or its humanistic appeal? No, Christianity may very well be the wellspring of the enlightened western viewpoint, buts its not the reason people believe. People everywhere believe something, so its not the content that reinforces belief. If you had been raised a militant Muslim in Iraq, you might very well be this asshole, as might I.
This guy killed his daughter, but generally lives in a society that reinforces his beliefs. You live a society that constantly challenges your beliefs, and yet you adhere to your faith most doggedly despite all the evidence to the contrary. Being overtly religous in 21st century western civilization is the living embodiment of cognitive dissonance.
We dont kill our daughters, because Jesus told us not too. We just live in a society where we dont kill our daughters. We used to live in a society not too long ago, where we enslaved and murdered people with more melanin, now we dont. Now we just have a small percentage of Christians who want to send every homosexual to some island far away, and claim the bible is very specific about abortion. A hundred years from now, it will be something else as well, But with the overtly religious, it will always be something.
We dont kill our daughters, because Jesus told us not too.
I meant.....We dont NOT kill our daughters ...
in one of the news items i read the father is quoted, as saying “THIS IS OUR CULTURE!” I did not see a direct reference to his religion.
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Can someone please explain to me why we are still over there helping these people?