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Fun With Airports
by Lee

So I’ve been out running arrands and stuff today, one of which was to take my good friend to the airport.  He’s an Aussie, and he has decided to take the family, go back to the homeland, and become an academic.  Since this is a permanent move, he had about 8 huge suitcases and asked if I would mind driving them to the airport.  No problem.

So I get home and check the news, and what’s the first thing I read?  A plot to blow up a fucking airport.

As first reported by NewsChannel4’s Jonathan Dienst, three people were arrested and one other was being sought Saturday in connection to a plot to blow up jet-fuel lines at John F. Kennedy International Airport, officials said.

Four people have been charged. Three suspects are in custody: Russell Defreitas, Kareem Ibrihim and Abdul Kadir. Another suspect, Abdul Nur is still at large.

What kind of name os Defreitas?  Is that Spanish?

Sources said Defreitas, a former cargo worker at JFK allegedly began to plot attacking the US last July or August. Defeitas sought help in carrying out a plan and went to an FBI informant, who gathered information about the plot.

U.S. Attorney Roslynn R. Mauskopf called it “one of the most chilling plots imaginable.”

Interesting.  This plot was foiled using police work.  The Constitution doesn’t seem to have been violated.  I doubt they’re going to take these terrorist suspects and torture confessions out of them.  This was, like all the big busts of terror plans, the result of tried-and-true techniques, good police work, and a little luck.  This is the way it should be done.

A year ago, seven men were arrested in what officials called the early stages of a plot to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago and destroy FBI offices and other buildings.

A month later, authorities broke up a plot to bomb underwater New York City train tunnels to flood lower Manhattan.

And six people were arrested a month ago in an alleged plot to unleash a bloody rampage on Fort Dix in New Jersey.

All foiled, all done the right way.  I always say, when the administration does something right I’ll give them credit for it, and this is exactly what I’ll do now.  Great police work, great teamwork, and a solid score for the good guys.

Posted by Lee on 06/02/07 at 07:03 PM (Discuss this in the forums)

Comments


Posted by West Virginia Rebel on 06/02/07 at 07:29 PM from United States

As with the London airline plot, I think this was due more to good police work than to anything Bush might have done. In fact, this was probably prevented because law enforcement did do its job apparently without a lot of undue influence from the Bush administration.

Still, you are right-credit where credit is due. The problem is, this admnistration gets it so wrong so much of the rest of the time.

Posted by West Virginia Rebel on 06/02/07 at 07:30 PM from United States

PS Why are these guys always named Abdul? I’m assuming originality isn’t a strong suit among jihadists.

Posted by Lee on 06/02/07 at 07:38 PM from United States

Still, you are right-credit where credit is due. The problem is, this admnistration gets it so wrong so much of the rest of the time.

Absolutely.  So often when I criticize Bush for something people on this blog will point out that it wasn’t actually Bush himself who did it, it was some guy who worked for him, thus Bush is somehow relieved of responsibility.  These same people will then, when something like this happens, assign all the credit to Bush and his vigilance in the GWOT.

I assign the blame where it’s deserved—at the boss—and in an identical manner I’ll chalk this one up as a solid victory for the administration.

And, strangely, they didn’t even have to torture anyone.

Posted by West Virginia Rebel on 06/02/07 at 07:56 PM from United States

BTW, here’s another view of Ron Paul, who’s probably the only really honest guy in the race, that I thought you might appreciate.

Also I hope you managed to catch this, personally I think it hits the nail on the head.

Posted by on 06/02/07 at 08:46 PM from United States

Great police work

Hey, do they still make Bananas’ Foster there?

Sure do, Chief

Hit it!

Posted by on 06/02/07 at 09:42 PM from United States

And, strangely, they didn’t even have to torture anyone.

And since there are no DNC conventions going on near the airport, they don’t have to raise the terror alert level to red either!

Posted by on 06/02/07 at 10:49 PM from Australia

What kind of name os Defreitas?  Is that Spanish?

It’s West Indian, as you’d know if you followed cricket in the late 80s/early 90s.

Posted by on 06/02/07 at 11:18 PM from Australia

It’s West Indian, as you’d know if you followed cricket in the late 80s/early 90s.

True, although he played for England instead of the West Indies – didn’t he? I imagine that it was pretty tough getting selected for the Windies back in the eighties when they were damn near unbeatable.

Maybe he did a bit of “selection arbitrage” by moving to the Dreary Isle?

Posted by on 06/03/07 at 12:38 AM from Australia

No, he grew up in England as far as I know. He was born in the West Indies though, according to Wikipedia at least.

Posted by Para on 06/03/07 at 04:47 AM from United States

All foiled, all done the right way.  I always say, when the administration does something right I’ll give them credit for it, and this is exactly what I’ll do now.  Great police work, great teamwork, and a solid score for the good guys.

Thanks for that, Lee.

Posted by on 06/03/07 at 06:29 AM from United States

Woohoo!  Chalk one up for good old police work.  When I read this yesterday on CNN, that was the first thing I noticed - no exotic “methods”, just old fashioned footwork.

I wonder what kind of new bizarro procedures this will end up creating at airport security.  Your chap with 8 bags had a bad day.  We went to a wedding in Sedona, AZ (wow, beautiful place) two weeks ago, and I thought I would lose it.  Some neo-nazi bitch was screaming at everybody about their shampoo and hand creams.  You need the latter not to dry up and blow away in AZ.

It looks like Auschwitz with all the barefoot people shuffling through the line, filling up tubs with their shit, especially in Atlanta, since they are remodeling the airport and everything is concrete and exposed pipes.  I was quite proud of myself that I didn’t ask where the showers were ...

Posted by on 06/03/07 at 07:13 AM from United States

Some neo-nazi bitch was screaming at everybody about their shampoo and hand creams.

So - when all the idiots of the world pack their shampoos and hand creams EVEN though the rules clearly say not to, and an underpaid, overworked airport security person loses her cool, she gets labeled as a “neo-nazi bitch”....

hmmm......

(Sorry, couldn’t resist.) :)

Posted by on 06/03/07 at 07:16 AM from United States

Flogg - have you guys been getting rain, or are you still dry?

Posted by on 06/03/07 at 10:41 AM from United States

I don’t think, if this plot had come to fruition, that it would have caused the sort of death and destruction that was envisioned by the jihadists.  Certainly, on a very local level (the immediate area around the site of the explosion), it could cause a lot of damage and kill people, but the fire would not run up and down the pipeline, as there would be no oxygen in the line to continue the burn (not unlike oil well fires, where the fire doesn’t run down the well into the oil chamber).  Also, if there is a sudden drop (or near-complete loss) of pressure in the pipeline, it gets shut down.  The major problem that would arise from this (aside from a limited, localized loss of life) would be the loss of fuel supply at JFK.  I don’t have any exact numbers, but an educated guess would be that JFK goes through about 2 million gallons of Jet A every day, and that amount of fuel would be very difficult/nigh-impossible to truck in while the pipeline was repaired.

Greater damage could be done by targeting the tank farm, but there is much greater security there, so it would be a much harder target to hit.

Posted by on 06/03/07 at 10:49 AM from United States

Just so we don’t all start a circle jerk about how wonderful cops are:

http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/7812557.html

Posted by on 06/03/07 at 11:36 AM from United States

Update:  It’s actually closer to three million gallons a day.

The largest tanker truck we had at MSP held 10,000 gallons.  It would take 300 trucks of that capacity to provide the juice for all the flights leaving JFK every day, and the delays would be massive (takes a lot longer to use a tanker, or multiple tankers, to fill an aircraft than it does to connect to the hydrant system).  Certainly, a lot of domestic flights would be filled for the return leg at the airport they arrive from, but that would not be possible on the bulk of international flights coming into JFK.

Posted by dakrat on 06/03/07 at 11:47 AM from United States

Just so we don’t all start a circle jerk about how wonderful cops are:

There is no question that the so-called “drug war” is out of control.

Posted by on 06/03/07 at 12:35 PM from United States

RepMom:  We are SO dry here.  No real rainfall for quite some time.  My yard is dirt and dead grass.

Yes, she was a NN Bitch, I say it again :).  There is no reason to scream at people.  I knew about the cream and shampoo rule, but obviously not everyone travels all the time.  It is very easy to get it wrong.  The fact that it happens all the time should indicate how convoluted it is.

Despite the raving bitch in security, I managed to get on the plane with a 2 oz. tube of hand cream tucked into my purse that I had forgotten about that wasn’t in a fucking baggie.  It’s all bullshit to make it look like they are doing something.

One day, some idiot will stuff something in his asshole and we will all be subject to rectal exams to board a plane.  That is the day that I will give up air travel for good.  As it is, I could kill that shoe bomb fucker with my bare hands right now. Domestic flight used to be an efficient way to travel.

Posted by dakrat on 06/03/07 at 12:53 PM from United States

There is no reason to scream at people.

There are plenty of reasons to scream at people.  However, it is bad manners to do so.

Posted by on 06/03/07 at 01:49 PM from United States

dakrat -

I should have said that there is no excuse for it.  This is particularly true on the job.  I suppose it is a bit much to ask of a low-grade civil servant to be a wee bit professional, but ...

Bottom line - all of those people paid money to fly.  They are being held up in line upwards of 45 minutes only to have to toss out $25 worth of stuff with an infinitesimal chance of combining into an explosive.  I am not one to buy the “they should have known” excuse for this.  Some people are compulsive about details and some are not.

If we are so rich a nation that we can blithely toss out expensive products at airport security, why are we bitching about illegal immigrants taking our prized produce-picking jobs?  Seriously, do you realize how this shit must sound to people in global shit-holes around the world where drinking the water means a giant worm emerges from your dick?

Posted by on 06/03/07 at 02:28 PM from United Kingdom

Despite the raving bitch in security, I managed to get on the plane with a 2 oz. tube of hand cream tucked into my purse that I had forgotten about that wasn’t in a fucking baggie.  It’s all bullshit to make it look like they are doing something.

Was that in Phoenix? I was through there two years ago. Lots of screaming and shouting at me too, and removal of shoes and belts. But, incredibly, at no point did I have to show ID or a boarding card. Everyone else did, but they missed me. I wonder how they make the numbers add up at the end of the day.

Posted by on 06/03/07 at 03:44 PM from United States

Yup, Phoenix.  I did have to produce ID and boarding pass.

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