At No Extra Cost, Pronuncation

by Hal_10000

Posted by on 10/09/08 at 07:22 PM from

Fortunately, people who are voting for Obama are doing so for his positions on the issues.

Posted by on 10/09/08 at 07:35 PM from

Hal - Somebody on another blog (Rod Dreher’s Crunchy Con) said it better than I could, so I’m copying it here:

David Brooks has never been to a roadhouse on a Sautrday night, nor to a heavy metal concert nor an NFL football game. David Brooks has no Johnny Cash on his ipod. David Brooks has never gotten his hands dirty with bait, nor pulled an icy Bud out of a cooler. But if you want to know about what kind of caviar is best at Zabars, he’s your guy.

If conservatism is going to win ever again, it’s going to have to get out of the country club,get down to the Costco, stop paying fealty to the myth of free trade, cut spending , control the borders and at least turn back the leftist drip into the culture.And explain and solve this economic crisis by discussing culture’s impact, how it’s broken and how we can fix it, along with locking up some of these greedy criminals. That would mean getting a little angry, which Brooks and his pals abhor as bad. But on each if these things that really matter, I’d rather have a pitbull like Palin in our corner than David Brooks looking to get petted like a polite lapdog.

What a steaming pile of horseshit.

I’ve been to a Roadhouse on a Saturday night. Friday and Sunday sometimes as well.

I’ve been, in the last year, to two different heavy metal festivals in Lousiana and Oklahome.

I’ve been, in the last year to three NFL games, six college football games, several NBA games, two NHL games, and two rodeos.

I have Johnny Cash on my IPOD. Actually I have Johnny Cash on my Ipod AND on my IPhone. I also have Black Sabbath, Lee Greenwood, Nelly, Tim McGraw, Snoop, Panic at the Disco, Carrie Underwood, and The Dixie Chicks, among many others.

I don’t drink Bud because it’s pisswater, but I’m there if you have a Henry’s, Sierra Pale Ale, or Anchor Steam.

If Conservatism is ever win again, it’s going to have to get rid of hateful, divisive people who choose to focus on differences rather than commonality. The GOP is, right now, a parochial, small town, party. Here’s a hint: There are more “elites” than there are small town, parochial folks. Also, Costco is run by a staunch Democrat, as is Target.  They both espouse progressive views, so I think you meant Wal-Mart for your tirade.

As for free trade, too late. We’re part of a global economy. Either get on board, or get left behind.

As for cutting spending. Great. Good idea. But don’t, for a second, try to play the “Conservatives are fiscally responsible”. The last 8 years, six of them with a Conservative (Bush) in the White House, and a Conservative (Tom Delay) leading the house, and a Conservative (Bill Frist) leaving the Senate, leading us to the largest addition of Federal Debt in history. So, please, spare me the “Fiscal conservative” crap.

You want to control the borders? Start with companies. Fine them amounts that matter. The next time Tyson Chicken (run by another staunch Democrat) or Wal-Mart is caught with illegals, fine them $25Million per person. That will solve the problem, right? Oh, wrong. I forgot that Conservatives like all the cheap labor. So, again, spare me the idea that Conservatives are going to cut the flow of illegal aliens into the country. 

How, exactly, do you propose turning back the “the leftist drip into the culture?” How, exactly? It’s a nice slogan, but how does government do that. Maybe “enhanced interrogation techniques?”

I mean, seriously. What has happened to conservatism? It used to be, in the time of Buckley, a serious movement, with serious thought, policy positions, and intellectual curiosity at it’s core. Now it’s nothing but gays, guns, abortion, war, and torture. It’s a freaking joke, and it needs to die a horrible death in order to be reborn. Think of it, you have people, American Citizens, overwhelmingly Conservative, who are now OPENLY supportive of torture.

Angry?

I’m angry.

I’m angry that small minded people who chastise those who try to educate themselves and explore the world as “elitist”.

I’m angry at small minded people who embrace the idea that to be uneducated, pregnant, and seventeen is somehow a good thing.

I’m angry at people who claim to be pro-life who pushed and supported a horrible war (Iraq) which has led to too many civilian deaths.

I’m angry at people who claim to be religious using the worst kind of racist language and guilt by association to slander those with whom they disagree.

I’m angry at US Citizens who think so little of this country that they’d think a woman like Palin is actually qualified to lead the country.

I’m angry.

And because I’m angry, I’m voting for Obama.

Because he’s not Bush. He’s not McCain. And he’s not Palin.

I’m GADMAN and I approve this message (but I didn’t write it.)

Posted by mikeguas on 10/09/08 at 08:59 PM from

And because I’m angry, I’m voting for Obama.

Because he’s not Bush. He’s not McCain. And he’s not Palin.

Here is a tip for all who find themselves under the label of fiscally conservative, but have no faith in the party that ruined its name. Don’t vote for people that are 80% against what you believe in simply because they don’t currently seem as bad as the people you wanted to believe in. There is a perfectly good alternative. The LP. Obama is going to win anyhow as your vote leaves McCain and goes LP, so it’s an indirect Obama vote (or anti GOP socialist party vote), but at least let’s get some numbers up on the board, make it easier to get on the ballot next time, more credibility, and maybe some bigger names jump on board, or with the competition at least get the shit back together on the GOP side of things. A pure Obama victory would just indicate to the GOP that people now want big government, and then the GOP will never head back, as they have no principles, just a desire for getting elected. An LP rather than Obama vote would be a vote put to good use. Why the hell would any fiscal conservative jump even further into the arms of those who support big government to spite those who lie about being pro small government?  That’s just stupid. That is a logic that would rival Bush.

I swear, we’ve probably all sat back at some point and mocked the wife who gets her ass kicked, and keeps going back time and time again. Oh, he beat me again I can’t stand him, but he loves me, I need him, and in reality, she’s just too afraid to have any faith in an alternative. What do we all say? Move on or quit complaining you stupid bitch. To me, the American voter is no different. Maybe we should start looking at something different than the two parties that fuck us over time and time again, as we complain and bitch and whine, but run back for more. We are all the stupid bitch. It’s been that way for decades.  Time to start considering putting our chips elsewhere, or maybe we should all just accept what we get. We all know these two parties are a joke run by career politicians whose interests put the American public at the end of the line. Yet we play that lesser of two evils every election.

So I’m sure some of you think the LP is a little nutty.  At the end of the day who do you agree with more, the Obama view or the LP view? Do the math, Obama has this anyhow. In your effort to show your dislike for how the GOP has strayed from what it supposedly represents, do you just want to be part of the ‘in’ crowd and do a 180 on your beliefs, or actually have your vote represent most of what you believe in?

Posted by dwex on 10/10/08 at 09:13 AM from

I’d give my eyeteeth for a candidate that can pronounce the world “nuclear”. There’s only ONE ‘u’ in the word, people. It’s not “nucular”.

Posted by on 10/11/08 at 12:42 PM from

Reminds me of the old tapes of Kerry testifying about Vietnam.  US soldiers acting in the manner of “Jenjis Khan”

Haven’t the mannerism of different candidates always been fodder fora little ridicule?  Bush junior is obvious.  Gore the Robot.  Billy “Bubba” Clinton, Bush senior etc. etc.

This is
A)making a little fun of Obama
and B) pointing out that he is a bit pretentious.

Saying “Pohkistan” is jsut like those idiot TV new people that referred to the “Turino” Olympics.

Posted by on 10/11/08 at 12:51 PM from

When did correct pronunciation become a bad thing?

Let me add that the way Obama says it is NOT the correct pronunciation.  Not unless we should say “Deutchsland” instead of Germany or “Italia” instead of Italy (Does Obama say “Mehico”?)

It is a silly affectation.

Posted by on 10/11/08 at 01:22 PM from

Posted by hist_ed on 10/11/08 at 12:51 PM from United States

It is a silly affectation.

Most people in the world pronouce it “Pock-ih-stahn.”

It IS the proper way to pronounce it, as those who work in the region will tell you.  Among those who pronounce it that way include Gen. Patreaus, Colin Powell, Gen. Schwarzkopf, Richard Holbrooke, and . So I guess they’re just doing a silly affectation?

Posted by on 10/11/08 at 05:22 PM from

Most people in the world pronounce it “Pock-ih-stahn.”

Most people in the world don’t speak English. Astoundingly enough (and I know this might be news to some) different languages pronounce place names (and other things) differently. 
“Pock-ih-stahn” is probably the correct pronunciation in Punjabi but not in English.  Maybe you should look in an English dictionary.  I just consulted three and the only variation on pronunciation is the emphasis on the second syllable.

Again, if you believe this and want to be constant then you must start speaking of Deutchland, Italia, Roma, Mehico, etc. 

Among those who pronounce it that way include Gen. Patreaus, Colin Powell, Gen. Schwarzkopf, Richard Holbrooke, and . So I guess they’re just doing a silly affectation?

Yep. 

Think of it this way.  About 500 million people say “Estados Unidos” instead of “United States.” By your reasoning they are all wrong.