A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul--George Bernard Shaw

Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.--Mark Twain

A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that it gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks they ought to want.  Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.--Milton Friedman

It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.--Voltaire

The government is like a baby’s alimentary canal, with a happy appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.--Ronald Reagan

When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law.--Frederic Bastiat

Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it.  If it keeps moving, regulate it.  If it stops moving, subsidized it.--Ronald Reagan

No matter how disastrously some policy has turned out, anyone who criticizes it can expect to hear:  “But what would you replace it with?” When you put out a fire, what do you replace it with?--Thomas Sowell

It’s a popular delusion that the government wastes vasts amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth.  Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.--P.J. O’Rourke

In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man and brave, hated and scorned.  When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot.--Mark Twain

Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal.--Martin Luther King Jr.

This county has to feel the same when Congress is in session as we do when the baby gets a hold of a hammer.--Will Rogers

Aaahhhh.....I could go on all day.

Get that sand washed out yet muirgeo1?

Considering that this is exactly what I hear from your typical garden-variety libtard, I’m keeping my guard up around them in case they snap.

My response is to wonder how people get like this. There has to be some sort of mental imbalance at work here. I seriously hope this can’t just happen to anyone given the right – or in this case, wrong – circumstances. There are very few things that would push me to act like this, and none of them would center around some fantasy “End of the World” scenario like this guy clearly was motivated by. BTW, I doubt that we will see much about what twisted this guy so badly, other than what the lefty talking heads can use to pretend he was a right wing nut as you point out, because that doesn’t fit the agenda.

Remember that document a while back generated by Sister Napolitano’s department saying that domestic terrorism from the right because of the inherent racism against Obama was the thing government needed to be worried the most about? The left still firmly needs this to come true to give themselves some ideological cover. That this dude’s gripe with the discovery channel hinged on the fact that they were not being more forceful in their programming to promote the AGW agenda, will never come out. I read that he got this epiphany moment and decided he needed to pick up the banner for the cause after he saw Al Gore’s “Inconvenient Truth” movie. He became even more desperate when he heard Al Gore speak recently. That’s why he went there. But the left just needs to validate their previous premise that this behavior comes from the racists like me that have a problem with all the red – both on the balance sheet and on the policy side - Obama and the demcorats are creating for the country.

Fair enough.  But bitching Obama all day every day would become tiresome—for me, if not for you.

If Obama gave me anything not to bitch about, I would. Then again, when I did give him his propos I recall you were still unhappy with that too.

I’ve made it pretty clear what I think of healthcare reform, financial reform and the stimulus.

And that means nobody else can bring these, or anything else, up again? I mean, these are just a few of the things this guy is screwing up.

However, the most important reality right now is that we have an election coming up—an election Republicans are likely to do well in.  And I’m seeing few signs that they get it. They talk of balancing the budget while cutting taxes and cutting “waste”.

I am not seeing enough of those signs.

They focus on bullshit issues like the mosque.

Some people don’t think it is bullshit Hal. And for the record, I agree that this is a bullshit issue, yet I also believe that it will have consequences in the long term. But those that don’t agree with us have a right to ask their reps for redress of something they see as a wrong. Just like those reps then have a duty to their people to do something, even if it is nothing but grandstanding in this case. I too wish they would focus on the more important and destructive shit our own government is doing to the country right now, but then again, I realize that I am not the only citizen they should be listening to.

This is not encouraging.  The most important thing right now, IMHO, is to get the GOP focused on the problems we have.  It’s not enough to not be Obama.  He’s irrelevant for the moment.

Say what? Considering the fact that if the republicans do get the message and decide to try and steer us back on a course away from the plunge down the waterfall of death Obama will be the most likely one fighting them over that, I seriously question your comment here. The guy is still president, and unless you know something I dont, will be so until 2012. That’s still a lot of time for him to keep trying to sink this country.

There are two guys who I’m happy with and should blog more about—Chris Christie and Paul Ryan.  I was away during the primaries but was happy to see Lisa Murkowski go down.

Yes! And I hope more of this happens. The blue blood republicans, the demcorat light ones, need to go. We need people that do not think government is a place to make their fortune and that government is the solution.

Bad writing on my part. I was saying don’t send troops into battle and then afterward decide to take out our enemies’ source of support.

Why not Hal? You do remember the cardinal rule of every conflict right? Once the planning is over and the fighting starts, it is a given that every plan goes out the door. If you can’t adapt to the changes or intel from the other side, then you will lose the fight.

If your issue is with the fact that the orders from above were in the reverse, then I guess we can agree. Still, it doesn’t mean that once you realize that you have made a mistake you walk away. And it definitely doesn’t mean that when you have no option but to fight that you avoid it. Can you imagine the US military basically folding up and leaving after Pearl Harbor because there wasn’t a guarantee they could pull off an easy win? Or them abandoning the war after the many disastrous opperations, both in the Pacific and European theatre, because things were not done perfectly?

They long for Bush? Amazing. The stock market was down 25% over his 8 years. It’s up 20% in Obama’s 2 years.

LOL!

Talk about cherry picked numbers and wholey out of context. What about unemployment? Economic growth? Stimulus bills that line the pockets of demcorats? Government use of tax payer money to buy entire companies for their union buddies? Policies that actually didn’t screw the American people over in the pursuit of some fantasy of equality of outcome, the leftists elite in charge of course being the exception to that? The Bush years wer not ideal, but compared to Obama they sure look like golden years. And people are catching on.

Bush was handed a budget surplus.

Created by a republican controlled congress against the wishes of the left. Then 9-11 happened and republicans started acting like democrat light. Speaking of budgets. Why didn’t you point out that Obama and the democrat controlled congress managed to deficit spend in one single year more than all the deficit spending of the 8 Bush years, including the heavy hitting last 2 years when demcorats controlled congress, muirgeo1?

Are this some of that information you think a well informed American from your comments on my post about the country souring on the stupid left and their policies, shouldn’t have BTW?

That you think republicans taking over the House will some how make things better is funny… no make that sad.

As has been pointed out to you many times, NO ONE HERE THINKS THE REPUBLICANS ARE ALL THAT GREAT! The majority of people here want honest conservatives to take office to try to clean up at least some of the mess that has been left to us by the wildly irresponsible spending of the 2000-2006 Republicans and the even wilder and more irresponsible Democrats of 2006-2010.

What is really sad is that the only place a conservative is likely to find a voice in this country is on the fringes of the GOP.

Yep.... we live in an idocracy.

Actually muirgeo1, people like you are directly responsible for creating that ideocracy you claim to live in. The world is upside down. People no longer value personal responsibility, hard work, or decency. Instead we live in an world where those that point out how people like you have screwed the pooch with their “good intentions” (those quotes are sarcasm, because I know every time a lib tells me it is to do good that that’s bull) and the terrible unintended consequences of those “good intentions”, are accused of being the idiots.

Alex in the best case scenario what would be the right policy changes to make and how would that grow the economy?

WTF muirgeo1? Have you simply ignored this every time I have pointed out what the problem is? The economy is tanking because the collectivists in charge of big government have decided that they will control it and pick and choose who & what wins. When government gets in the business of picking the winners and losers, we lose. Policies which you constantly seem to agitate for are passed under the guise of helping the little man or regulating evil big business, but only really serve to expand the power and control of this unholy trinity.

You know that evil big business your kind is always ranting about screwing everybody? They are not just in bed with your big government buddies: they are tied at the hip. There is a reason that these big businesses give practically all of their campaign contributions to democrats, as I have repeatedly pointed out. And the current big government masters even went so far as to screw us over by using tax payer money to buy their big union buddies a company or two. The big Wall Street reform bill your side touted it passed recently was nothing but a scam to milk even more money for democrat campaign coffers, expand the power of government and unions, and to help the selected businesses and industries government favors to squash the real market demands and their competition. This is an abuse of the democratic process to create a Soviet style economy where the government regulates everything from above. We all know how well that worked.

And every time I have heard these leftists talk about how much they care about small businesses and the middle class, they have gone right ahead and instituted policies that shaft both. Companies like GE create virtual monopolies, with the help of government, squashing any real innovation or advancement by smaller independent businesses. Even worse, is how they peddle crap that big collectivist government likes – especially this new bullshit “green technology” that’s anything but green and really is pushed so government can increase their tax intake as well as control our access to energy and thus any freedoms afforded by that – as a substitute for other real things that would actually result in economic growth. Couple this crap with the massive insecurities tied to employment costs all these horrendously costly collectivist policies that big government has pushed in the age of Obama, and you can tell why the economy is in the tank.

So the short answer is to change the system so politicians, unions, and big business can no longer do what they are doing now, muirgeo1. get the big government collectivists out of power, free the American economy from their yoke, and watch it grow. That’s not speculation on my part either: Reagan did it, and it worked.

That you think republicans taking over the House will some how make things better is funny… no make that sad. The only thing they will do is spend 2 years trying to impeach Obama while the country sinks further into the abyss.

That you say idiotic shit like this because you hope the people driving this country into the ground should be allowed keep power should make you sad. I doubt they will waste time trying to impeach Obama, but they definitely need to take close and hard look at the Obama DOJ. Besides, if Washington is paralyzed I guarantee you that will result in better economic growth than what we have now.

Bottom line.... it’s gonna have to get a lot worse before it gets better. The average American is so fucking stupid I don’t give us much hope. A democracy requires an informed public and the Kochs and Murdochs and ClearChannels now control so much media they own the stupid people.

This is nothing but a leftist twit trying to make like the problem isn’t with his ilk and what they believe in and do.

I laughed hard at your joke about democracy requiring an informed public, when you ignore the fact that we have a president in the WH now that was elected because the members of the MSM you didn’t include in your rant conspired to hide the facts and truth from the American people, muirgeo1. Talk about irony. And have you seen how hard the current masters in DC have tried to conceal information from people? Did you miss all those closed door deals, bills they didn’t read and would not show the people until after they were passed, bribes to buy votes, and other such shenanigans that this most transparent government ever promised, constantly gets caught in?

Or are you actually confounding the issues and really thinking about/pining for those “re-education camps Sebelius was talking about the other day? You know. Where people are “informed” what the only things to think are in typical leftist fashion. After all, you leftists twits seem to think that spouting Marx, Lenin, and Mao and believing in the crap they did is the hallmark of enlightenment. Our entire education system and the LSM are driven by DNC PC talking points and comprised of leftists propagandists. Oh, the irony!

Bush was handed a budget surplus.

Allowing 9/11 to happen on your watch is no excuse either. Nor is spending 2 trillion on a war attacking the wrong country....nor i passing a medicare part d bill without funding it… there’s no defense for Bush except zombie like fox news brainwashed indoctrination.

In Bush’s defense, he inherited the anything goes, wild spending and investing, from the Clinton years.  During the rise of the internet, VCs were dropping millions of dollars every day on companies that had no plans to make money.  This is when the housing bubble got its start.  So Bush was handed a shit sandwich covered in Cool Whip.  Of course, 9/11, the shutdown of the airlines, and the shutdown of wallstreet didn’t help either.

Martin Luther King did say what the White House attributes to him, but it wasn’t original to King, and King never claimed it was.  King quoted 19th-century Unitarian minister Theodore Parker, who wrote it in 1853.  As I noted in June 2009, Reverend Matt Tittle tried to inform the Obama campaign in April 2008 that they had misattributed the quote, but they never acknowledged his queries.

It’s one thing to misattribute a quote in a speech, and a little worse to ignore people who attempt to correct the mistake.  It’s another thing entirely to have the misattribution written into the carpet of the Oval Office, and to have the White House continue to issue misinformation and shortchange the original author of the phrase…

from: Sondrak.com

They long for Bush? Amazing. The stock market was down 25% over his 8 years. It’s up 20% in Obama’s 2 years.

Bush added 6 trillion to the debt and the largest portion of the current deficit is related to Bush spendatures and the loss of revenue from Bush led Great Recession.

Wow these are some Stupid Juice Drinking people. All I can say is that the power of the media like Fox to indoctrinate, propagandize, demonize, brainwash, radicalize and hypnotize the populace is a scary thing.

Bunch of ignorant zombie folk walking the streets there in Ohio.

I say give them 4 or 8 more years of republican rule… they deserve it.... then some day they can wake up like the stunned populace of Germany when the war ended an they finally realized what the hell was going on.

Yep.... we live in an idocracy.

Alex in the best case scenario what would be the right policy changes to make and how would that grow the economy?

That you think republicans taking over the House will some how make things better is funny… no make that sad. The only thing they will do is spend 2 years trying to impeach Obama while the country sinks further into the abyss.

Bottom line.... it’s gonna have to get a lot worse before it gets better. The average American is so fucking stupid I don’t give us much hope. A democracy requires an informed public and the Kochs and Murdochs and ClearChannels now control so much media they own the stupid people.

"There ain’t no justice”

Always applies....

“The Arc of the Moral Universe is Long, But it Bends Towards Justice,” Martin Luther King Jr.

For some reason this made me immediately think of…
Narrator: On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.—IMDb Quotes: Fight Club (1999)

There are two guys who I’m happy with and should blog more about—Chris Christie and Paul Ryan.

The more I see of Christie the more I like him. Of course, I don’t live in NJ so he might be awful, but I loved his video of him ripping on the teacher…

“If you don’t feel like you’re paid enough, go do something else.”

And to the woman who almost cried because they were closing libraries:

“Unlike the federal government, the state of New Jersey is not allowed to print its own money.”

Great stuff…

Anything by Milton Friedman:
“Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it.”

“If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there’d be a shortage of sand.”

“Many people want the government to protect the consumer. A much more urgent problem is to protect the consumer from the government.”

“One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.”

And about 10,000 others…

If you are talking about military support being withdrawn from the troops in Afghanistan, I would really like to know when you think this happened.

Bad writing on my part.  I was saying don’t send troops into battle and then afterward decide to take out our enemies’ source of support.

There are two guys who I’m happy with and should blog more about—Chris Christie and Paul Ryan.

I agree

Sometimes a rug is just a rug.
a rework of Sigmund Freud.

THISAdministration?..........only?

Satch, speaking for myself… I LOVE YOU MAN! (OR WOMAN)

“critical thinking” around here amounts to bashing both the liberals AND the republicans, imo.  Anyone here who doesn’t (tip)toe that line is despised.  Fuck the liberals and fuck their 1.4 trillion dollar annual defecit.  THAT is what should be trashed here daily, with no need to throw in the requisite “oh yeah, and Bush sucked too!”

Fair enough.  But bitching Obama all day every day would become tiresome—for me, if not for you.  I’ve made it pretty clear what I think of healthcare reform, financial reform and the stimulus.

However, the most important reality right now is that we have an election coming up—an election Republicans are likely to do well in.  And I’m seeing few signs that they get it.  They talk of balancing the budget while cutting taxes and cutting “waste”.  They focus on bullshit issues like the mosque.  This is not encouraging.  The most important thing right now, IMHO, is to get the GOP focused on the problems we have.  It’s not enough to not be Obama.  He’s irrelevant for the moment.

There are two guys who I’m happy with and should blog more about—Chris Christie and Paul Ryan.  I was away during the primaries but was happy to see Lisa Murkowski go down.

So perfect for this Administration.

’You fucked up. You trusted us.” - Eric Stratton

So perfect for this Administration.

Alex, I can’t wait for all the gnashing of teeth to start over this one. It matters not how many times you point these polls out. There is always a “yeah but the Republicans!...” mentality some of these guys just have to add to the conversation. No one should live and die by polls but the trend is undeniable.

The gist of it comes down to this. There are a number of guys at this blog who actually think they are going to form the Fantasy Land Party. You know the one. Strict fiscal conservatives who are also bat crap crazy on social issues. You know, anything goes. Gay lifestyle, unfettered abortion, gun control based on what a local jurisdiction wants(I mean, golly gee we are talking about local and state’s rights yeah?)because they understand they need to pay for these things themselves. It is not their neighbor’s responsibility. I mean, they get it. Uh...right.

Trouble is, mean old mister reality drops in. The very nature of the social liberals IS collectivism. What?!!! Me? Actually pay for screwing my life up with drugs, alcohol abuse, unfettered sex, and bad financial decisions? You have to be kidding man! That’s what the bad rich people are here for.

Barring a political nuclear bomb between now and November we all have a good idea of what is going to happen. I cannot wait to drop in and see how this is portrayed by the LIBERALtarian element here. Popcorn anyone?

I expect the GOP to fuck up, but still be considered the lesser of two evils.

Unless the funditard section of the party can be evicted back out into the wilderness from which it came, the GOP will still function as the defunct Christian Socialist party.

"A republic, if you can keep it” Benjamin Franklin

Every government is a parliament of whores. The trouble is, in a democracy, the whores are us.
P. J. O’Rourke

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner.  Liberty is a well-armed lamb.  Benjamin Franklin

Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
George Washington

all politicians should act as if they have a bulls-eyes on their chest, because there is one.
Me

’You fucked up. You trusted us.” - Eric Stratton

And that’s the problem.  Lee’s legacy was critical thinking.  You sound like a Limbaugh clone.

Thanks for the compliment depsite the fact you attempt to make it look like Limbaugh or I lack critical thinking skills. I think Limbaugh while not my cup of tea, is a great thinker, which is precisely why people like you hate him so much.

I detect very little critical thinking happening.

I think that I could hit you over the head with critical thinking and you still would fail to see it considering what you have so far contributed to the conversation.

I think Lee would be bitching his head off about Obama, just not in the way that you are.

Really? I think you are grasping at straws.