Posted on 28 June, 2017 by AlexInCT in Decline of Western Civilization, Deep Thoughts, Evil Capitalists, Health Care, Left Wing Idiocy, Nanny State, Politics, Right Wing Idiocy, The Law, The Mainstream Media, Things are worse than they seem
Well, a few years back every collectivist out there trying to peddle that failed ideology was lecturing those of us that see the inherent nature and end state of any collectivist experiment, on how Chavez’s revolutionary experiment had made Venezuela not just a more just and better place, but validated their faith in collectivism. The media and the usual big nanny state selling types could not stop talking about how great Venezuela was doing, and how it validated their beliefs and ideology. Chavez was visited by a host of virtue signaling douchebags, while the news cycle took every opportunity it could to tell people how collectivism in Venezuela was saving the poor. Those of us that pointed out that the natural course of events had not happened yet, and that eventually this experiment being lauded, when it reached its end state, would end in misery and failure, were basically mocked and called out as delusional wreckers and kulaks. That the historical president existed to actually validate the case of people pointing out that over time every previous big collectivist experiments the left praised and presented as proof of their ideological superiority, had imploded given enough time to run out of other people’s money, leading to the usual tropes about it not being true collectivism, the wrong people being in charge (a flip from them being the right people at first), the capitalist wreckers undermining the whole fairy tale, or a combination of all these things. It was never the fact that collectivism is a dumb idea because it goes both against human nature and practically every law of nature, physics, and economics.
Well, fast forward to today, and this is Venezuela. The place has been wrecked by the socialists, the corruption inherent in socialism, the attempts to force reality to bend to the will of an insane ideology, and of course, the fact that the saviors of the revolution really did the revolution so they could replace the oligarchy that existed with one of their own. I could be ironic and wonder why now that the place is falling apart the dnc operatives with bylines no longer have Venezuela constantly in the news, and on the rare occasion the do talk about the misery and horrible situation, they never find it in them to actually blame the cause for the current condition: collectivism.
there is a lesson here, but I doubt the people that should learn it will ever do so. Envy of what others have and the need to virtue signal are powerful things for the usual idiots that purposefully remain oblivious to the destruction, misery and death toll of their ideology. Queue the people that will now complain about me because there is no defense for the evils of collectivism outside the family unit.
I now have no doubt that Obama was the most incompetent and destructive president of my time, unseating Jimmy Carter, which in itself is some staggering achievement, and that the only way he could have been saved from that distinction was a Clinton presidency. Lucky for the country and the world, and to the chagrin of your usual leftist douchebag and the guilty pleasure of people like me, we were spared that horrible faith. The guy, along with telling lies and lording it like he was an emperor, made it a point to say stupid shit and then be proven wrong. Of course, the LSM played defense for him and would twist itself into pretzels doing so. Let’s not rehash that conversation. After all, anyone still claiming that the bulk of what those of us have been calling the Lame Stream Media for years aren’t a bunch of biased leftists shills – democrat operatives with bylines if you allow this apt label – is themselves a blind partisan hack.
I could wax philosophical about the failures of Obamacare, the lies told to pass it, and the lies now told to keep it despite the fact the thing is an epic disaster, but that’s not what this post is about. I could also go into how I believe that despite the distraction tactics from the dnc operatives with bylines about Russia stealing the election, Trump being a Putin stooge, or focus on how the people that spend decades excusing the evils of communism and the USSR and then made fun of Romney when he pointed out the Russians were a problem now are all up in arms about that red scare they so sarcastically dismissed and defended, eventually all this empty posturing and belly aching bullshit will be swept away by the revelation that it is all smoke and mirrors to hide the fact that the Obama administration used both the US intelligence community and foreign entities to spy on political enemies of the left. Keep your eye on this one, because that is the real big story out there that the left is desperate to destroy Trump over so he can’t dismantle the machine that has been helping the left cover this criminal activity up. But that is not what this post is about either. Shit I could even go into the “I told you sos” I promised the usual douchebags we have here, and there are several of those already, but that’s not what this is about either. No, this post is about a old lie/idiocy told by Obama and the left, when they were hard at work pissing away billions of tax payer dollars on green shit that only served to enrich democrat operatives, friends, and donors. Let me set this baby up.
Remember when black Jesus told the country, during the days of $4+ a gallon gas, with prices going up and no end in sight, that those of us that were saying that the US should drill for oil to lower prices were morons that lacked his nuanced understanding of economics he had? Remember people saying “Drill baby, drill” being mocked by credentialed leftist elite cunts that made fun of how idiotic one had to be to believe that more oil somehow would reduce oil prices? Yeah, these days there is a reason you only hear people that like me knew Obama and the left were full of shit and either idiots or downright contemptible crooks talk about this topic, and that is because those that managed to do the drilling despite the cock blocking actions of the Obama administration, have brought us to this:
The oil cartel roped eleven other petrostates into an agreement to curtail production in 2017 and are currently working on extending that deal, but the output cut’s ultimate goal of eating away at the oil market’s glut of crude is being undermined by the actions of suppliers outside of OPEC—U.S. shale producers chief among them. Now, OPEC is revising upwards its estimates of how quickly supplies will grow outside of its membership this year by a whopping 64 percent. Bloomberg reports:
Production from outside the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries will increase by 950,000 barrels a day this year, OPEC said in a report, revising its forecast up by about 370,000. The projection is four times higher than in November, when the group announced a production cut to try and re-balance oversupplied world markets. Non-OPEC nations pump about 60 percent of the world’s oil. […]
“U.S. oil and gas companies have already stepped up activities in 2017 as they start to increase their spending amid a recovery in oil prices,” OPEC’s Vienna-based research department said in the report. “In addition to the growth in the U.S., higher oil production is expected in Canada and Brazil.”
Some of the most vile entities on the planet are feeling the pain of low oil prices. From Russia to Venezuela to Iran, low oil prices have prevented some of the most vile players from being able to do mischief. Of course in the case of Iran, they are these days not doing so bad after the Obama administration, which lied to the US people and the world at large about getting Iran to stop the production of a nuclear weapons, not only lifted the sanctions on them, but paid them close to a trillion dollars in a deal akin to selling one’s soul to the devil that basically left Iran free to still build a bomb unless someone else used force to stop them. And I love that the usual green peddlers are feeling it too. I am smart enough to see through the lies that government interference will make these technologies more viable. History has proven that whatever government mandates ends up reduced to near non-existent evolution and stagnated high prices. Look at healthcare, cars, and a plethora of other such examples on your own time. They are there if you are not ideologically blind. And yeah, I remember when government could make things happen. Those days are long gone now that government is populated and run by inept and idiotic credentialed elite douchebags.
Back to the main topic: low oil/gas prices. Want to know why we got that?
This supply-side surprise comes courtesy of American frackers, who have seized the opportunity afforded them by the petrostate cuts and have ramped up their own production over the past nine months. By cutting costs and boosting efficiencies, U.S. shale has made itself capable of profitably producing $50 per barrel oil.
This is the worst-case scenario for OPEC: whatever success its production limits have in inducing a price rebound, the fruits of those labors will be enjoyed first and foremost by U.S. companies who will find more of their shale operations profitable at higher prices. With projections for growth of non-OPEC supplies being ramped up so dramatically through the end of the year, it’s clear to see that that’s already happening.
Kiss your frackers when you see them. And if I might be allowed one more comment about the nefarious relationship with Russians, I point you not to the delusional democrat’s usual target – Trump – but to the people that have opposed fracking in the US. Oh, I have heard the counterclaims made by the same dnc operatives with bylines today perpetuating the lies about a Trump-Putin connection and still harping on about a hacked/stolen election, when there has been zero evidence of any sort of connection presented and their choice of words to mask that what happened was that someone did the US voters a favor and exposed the corruption and criminality of the dnc (and nobody even knows if that was the Russians, but they keep pretending it was) so spare me the douchebaggery.
Is not really going to go anywhere, and that is because as many of us that saw the hysteria sans any evidence pointed out: it was all bullshit. There is no way that if this story even had an inkling of a chance of being true – based on evidence, that is, not the pipe dreams of a bunch of idiots with an agenda to deflect from the real issues – that we wouldn’t have been given the facts by now. The democrats play dirty. They care not a damn if they destroy the country if it keeps them in power, so if they had proof, that proof would already have been released by their operatives in the deep state bureaucracy.
This Russia thing was started as a distraction from the revelations of how corrupt the DNC and the Clinton campaign were, and it got legs after the people in the Obama administration that tapped the Trump campaign – to find dirt no doubt – started pretending there was something going on there. We now know that the democrat delusion and their knee jerk reaction after losing an election they felt certain they had already stolen, was all bullshit. Oh sure, they are still talking about Trump being a Russian stooge, despite the fact that unlike them he has been though with Russia and is pro fracking – something that impacts the economy of Russia which is mostly centered around the sale of oil and natural gas far more than anything we could do otherwise in a real negative way – because the objective here has from the start been to deligitimize his election in the eyes of the low information voter. The usual dnc operatives with bylines were more than happy to go along with the bullshit because they too wanted some magical event to give them president Hillary. After the attempts to coerce the electoral college, convince people that we should suddenly look at the popular vote and not the legal election, and a bunch of other madness (remember this doozy?) all went nowhere and the left was left unable to steal the election, they decided that they needed to undermine the presidency.
As I pointed out before, only to have our resident trolls all go batshit on me for daring to say so: nothing will hurt the left more than Trump being successful at rolling back the nanny state, firing up the economy, and doing foreign policy different than the cock suckery of the Obama years. Any success is damaging to that moron Obama’s legacy (and those that defended it), and more importantly, to the left’s dogma. The left wants to believe they are the experts. The only ones that know what is right and how to make things work. Note I said want to believe, because any observation quickly should dissuade anyone but the most partisan or stupid person from any such delusion. Hence that Krugnuts prediction about economic doom turns into real stories like this, this, and this. The people that grow wealth all feel that things are going to get better. Even the ones that spout idiotic leftist shit all the time.
And do you remember Obama telling us we couldn’t drill ourselves out of high gas prices? Well, despite his administration’s best efforts, it is precisely the drilling – well, fracking – done in the US and Canada, that has driven down the price of oil, while preventing hostile countries such as Iran, Saudi Arabia, Russia, and even that leftist tropical paradise of Venezuela from making like bandits at our expense. What about all that bullshit bracket filling during March madness? I sure as hell don’t miss that crap. And so on.
Anyway, back on topic. The left is desperate to make you believe only they are qualified to be in charge. hence this idiotic play to deligitimize the Trump presidency, of course for many of us it feels more like this. Me, I hope these morons keep at it. Be hysterical idiots. Throw tantrums and act all bitchy. Cry wolf. Sure low information voters might fall for it now, but more and more people are realizing what’s going on. The fact that the dnc operatives with bylines destroyed any credibility they might have had left alone is a major victory for freedom loving people. But the left refusing to accept their fantasy world has run into the real one, is priceless. This is gonna be great to watch. Pass the popcorn please.
Here’s a question for Rich or Blameme, Hal, Alex, CM or anyone else that wants to take it on. I’m really interested to know.
There is a widespread belief that our current employment model is about to come to an end, that about 50% of existing jobs will likely come to an end in the next few decades, and while there are likely to be some new jobs resulting from that process, this won’t nearly be enough to offset the imbalance.
How do you think society should deal with this, remembering that:
Will there be a lot of people who are “surplus” to global capitalism,
How do we keep incentive in society when money no longer works as it has until now?
If people are not engaged in production, then who will pay the wages, and how will people be able to buy anything? What will keep markets afloat?
What will happen to society if there will be a lot of people with nothing to do; people (particularly young men) with nothing to do is very likely to lead to violence, revolution, war (this is one reason given for the civil war in Syria, following a ten year drought leading to high unemployment in the cities).
So how should society cope? Should there be a basic minimum wage, paid by the government, to ensure there is a limit on consumption and that no-one starves? Or a kind of social Darwinism, leading to impoverishment and perhaps death for many?
Or do you think that this will not happen at all?
(Sorry if there are typos – need to post this and run!)
Actually this is a great topic, and while I am certain I know where what Stogy (and most of the left) leans on this issue, as well as the fact that their preferred solution again relies on something unsustainable, will lead us (complete societal collapse a-la USSR, with all the dark things that followed), I still think we should have this discussion.
Don’t say never did anything for you Stogy!
Despite my spidey sense tingling like crazy and that little voice in my head saying, “Leave this one alone” my curiosity and a genuine heartfelt desire to educate myself on a topic I feel limited in, I’m going to throw out another climate change post, but from the position that I would like input from those so called experts for my on benefit.
First a disclaimer, I have no science background and 8 times out of 10 whenever the subject is brought up, it comes from a position of certitude so off putting (the science is settled so get with the program) or it is espoused by those so radical/tyrannical (anyone that denies climate change should be jailed) that my immediate reaction is to change the channel. I admit I must resist the urge to tune out, thus this post.
There is a group of Republicans that formed to address the seriousness of climate change, The Climate Leadership Council. Here is their mission statement;
Mounting evidence of climate change is growing too
strong to ignore. While the extent to which climate change
is due to man-made causes can be questioned, the risks
associated with future warming are too big and should be
hedged. At least we need an insurance policy. For too long,
many Republicans have looked the other way, forfeiting
the policy initiative to those who favor growth-inhibiting
command-and-control regulations, and fostering a needless
climate divide between the GOP and the scientific, business,
military, religious, civic and international mainstream.
Now that the Republican Party controls the White House and
Congress, it has the opportunity and responsibility to promote
a climate plan that showcases the full power of enduring
conservative convictions. Any climate solution should be based
on sound economic analysis and embody the principles of free
markets and limited government. As this paper argues, such
a plan could strengthen our economy, benefit working-class
Americans, reduce regulations, protect our natural heritage and
consolidate a new era of Republican leadership. These benefits
accrue regardless of one’s views on climate science
What clued me on to these guys was a WSJ article I read this morning. It is a short piece, easily readable.
I would appreciate Stogy, CM, Hal, and Alex to comment on it from a position of;
Does this make sense to you?
Does it go far enough?
Do you think they have a proper handle of the situation?
Can capitalism/free trade exist in a world where climate change is seriously addressed?
Any other readers who feel compelled to comment is also appreciated.
Naturally I think any “carbon taxes/carbon dividend” steps can only be addressed after real meaningful tax reform, lowering the corporate tax rate and providing tax incentives to facilitate bringing back home the trillions out there overseas.
OK, let me have it.
I could set this all up and write as if I am totally surprised to find out that top men at NOAA have been lying again for political reasons, but that stuff is getting old and sad. Lets just read the thing and get to the most recent revelations of malfeasance by the credentialed elite with an agenda:
The Mail on Sunday today reveals astonishing evidence that the organisation that is the world’s leading source of climate data rushed to publish a landmark paper that exaggerated global warming and was timed to influence the historic Paris Agreement on climate change.
A high-level whistleblower has told this newspaper that America’s National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) breached its own rules on scientific integrity when it published the sensational but flawed report, aimed at making the maximum possible impact on world leaders including Barack Obama and David Cameron at the UN climate conference in Paris in 2015.
The report claimed that the ‘pause’ or ‘slowdown’ in global warming in the period since 1998 – revealed by UN scientists in 2013 – never existed, and that world temperatures had been rising faster than scientists expected. Launched by NOAA with a public relations fanfare, it was splashed across the world’s media, and cited repeatedly by politicians and policy makers.
But the whistleblower, Dr John Bates, a top NOAA scientist with an impeccable reputation, has shown The Mail on Sunday irrefutable evidence that the paper was based on misleading, ‘unverified’ data.
It was never subjected to NOAA’s rigorous internal evaluation process – which Dr Bates devised.
His vehement objections to the publication of the faulty data were overridden by his NOAA superiors in what he describes as a ‘blatant attempt to intensify the impact’ of what became known as the Pausebuster paper.
His disclosures are likely to stiffen President Trump’s determination to enact his pledges to reverse his predecessor’s ‘green’ policies, and to withdraw from the Paris deal – so triggering an intense political row.
Where to begin? Tom Brady won a fifth NFL title for New England, pissing off that douchebag Goodell and setting up the stage for a ton of libs pants shitting when he and Bill Belichick meet with Trump and are all happy about it. No wait. That’s a different story for a different day. So I guess I will start with the revelation that this paper was not peer reviewed and was presented as critically important scientific fact by people with an agenda. I wish I could say this revelation somehow was a surprise as well, but considering how much made up shit, rigged data & models, massaged systems that always produce the same cataclysmic results, and whole cloth exaggerations, if not downright making up fake crap, have been part & parcel of this cult, that would drag me down to the level of these people. You of course ask yourself, how could this happen? What about scientific rigor and oversight? Well, here is what we find out next:
In an exclusive interview, Dr Bates accused the lead author of the paper, Thomas Karl, who was until last year director of the NOAA section that produces climate data – the National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI) – of ‘insisting on decisions and scientific choices that maximised warming and minimised documentation… in an effort to discredit the notion of a global warming pause, rushed so that he could time publication to influence national and international deliberations on climate policy’.
Dr Bates was one of two Principal Scientists at NCEI, based in Asheville, North Carolina.
Official delegations from America, Britain and the EU were strongly influenced by the flawed NOAA study as they hammered out the Paris Agreement – and committed advanced nations to sweeping reductions in their use of fossil fuel and to spending £80 billion every year on new, climate-related aid projects.
The scandal has disturbing echoes of the ‘Climategate’ affair which broke shortly before the UN climate summit in 2009, when the leak of thousands of emails between climate scientists suggested they had manipulated and hidden data. Some were British experts at the influential Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia.
NOAA’s 2015 ‘Pausebuster’ paper was based on two new temperature sets of data – one containing measurements of temperatures at the planet’s surface on land, the other at the surface of the seas.
Both datasets were flawed. This newspaper has learnt that NOAA has now decided that the sea dataset will have to be replaced and substantially revised just 18 months after it was issued, because it used unreliable methods which overstated the speed of warming. The revised data will show both lower temperatures and a slower rate in the recent warming trend.
The land temperature dataset used by the study was afflicted by devastating bugs in its software that rendered its findings ‘unstable’.
The paper relied on a preliminary, ‘alpha’ version of the data which was never approved or verified.
A final, approved version has still not been issued. None of the data on which the paper was based was properly ‘archived’ – a mandatory requirement meant to ensure that raw data and the software used to process it is accessible to other scientists, so they can verify NOAA results.
Get that? The very director of NOAA’s climate data production factory rigged the game to produce the desired results that would fit the narrative by the cultists that the end was nigh. Of course, as we know, this is neither new nor uncommon behavior with these people, whom for some reason don’t lose their scientific credibility after being caught red handed fabricating the results they want to push the agenda, because the whole thing is political.
So since you can’t defend this indefensible anti-science behavior, I expect the cultists to attack a man with the following credentials for not believing the correct dogma that they sell by consensus.
Dr Bates retired from NOAA at the end of last year after a 40-year career in meteorology and climate science. As recently as 2014, the Obama administration awarded him a special gold medal for his work in setting new, supposedly binding standards ‘to produce and preserve climate data records’.
I am certain that this infidel will be punished for letting us take another peek behind that dirty curtain. The sad fact is that these idiots have themselves to thank for the lack of credibility they suffer from, and for the reactions clear thinking people – those of us that respect the scientific process – have towards them. When the crap hit the fan a long time ago when neither the models nor the predictions bore any resemblance to reality, had these people really been interested in making the case with science, the correct action would have been to go back to the drawing board. We got none of that. They basically doubled down on the nonsense, screamed even louder, denigrated and called anyone that pointed out they had nothing to really stand on, accusing them of being deniers, all of which were clear signs you were dealing with a cult.
Revelations like this, only serve to make it even more clear that we are not dealing with anything scientific. Well that and the fact that the solution to this calamity always boils down to some massive wealth redistribution scam that removes more of our freedoms, drastically grows the nanny state, seems to have a scary eugenics bent at its center, and without a fault always serves to enrich a small cadre of establishment credentialed elites. This nonsense has been very lucrative for a connected few, and a costly and idiotic thing for the rest of us. It’s time it died and the reds picked a new calamity to push their agenda with. Maybe a meteorite strike or an alien invasion.
That horrible TTP thing that was going to be part of the Obama legacy and fuck over the country is dead. Check out how the douchebag DNC operatives with bylines reported this event:
WASHINGTON — President Trump upended America’s traditional, bipartisan trade policy on Monday as he formally abandoned the ambitious, 12-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership brokered by his predecessor and declared an end to the era of multinational trade agreements that defined global economics for decades.
With the stroke of a pen on his first full weekday in office, Mr. Trump signaled that he plans to follow through on promises to take a more aggressive stance against foreign competitors as part of his “America First” approach. In doing so, he demonstrated that he would not follow old rules, effectively discarding longstanding Republican orthodoxy that expanding global trade was good for the world and America — and that the United States should help write the rules of international commerce.
Oh what tyranny! He goes against tradition! And bipartisanship. Oh my lord. How fucking stupid do these morons take people to be? What do you think the last 8 years of nuclear options, Obama legislating by the pen while congress vacillated, no budgets, the IRS and DOJ going after political enemies of the left, and the very DNC operatives now acting butthurt not just keeping quiet about it, but helping them get away with it by lying? Trump has done nothing that had not become SOP under the obama reign of terror, but somehow, Trump doing this is a sign of bad things.
I also guess that after the left, especially Obama, spent 8 years telling us he won and he was going to do what he wanted, going to the pen and executive orders after the people freaking out by the horrible decisions made when the democrats controlled congress voted the left out of power, that I had me a good chuckle seeing how the DNC operatives with bylines have found value in government being bipartisan again. As I always say: to the left bipartisanship means do what I want, and they only talk about it or want it when out of power. Otherwise it is – to quote Obama – here: “I won!”. And this would be funny if it wasn’t so tragic:
Remember, the left is in a mad tizzy because of two reasons. The first is that after spending the last 8 years weaponizing government for Obama and in preparation for the royal smackdown they hoped that weaponized government would deliver with the the coming of Hillary, they now are worried they will be on the recieving end of it. The second is the horrible fear that Trump by ignoring them all, no matter how hard they whine, will actually be successful. Nothing will relegate the left to the proverbial “40 years of wandering in the desert” more than a Trump success (one not measured by their standards but by those of the people).
Next should be a renegotiation of NAFTA and the death of Obamacare.
The other day, on one of the many threads that degenerate into people flinging poo and hoping it sticks to the wall about Trump, I made the argument that some of the people I had talked to admitted that the major reason the left is so unhinged about Trump was tied to an abject fear that after decades of abysmal and compounded failures of the implementation of a slew of progressive ideas, and the horrible turn of the last 8 years in particular, that Trump would swoop in, and be successful. Of course, the usual crowd immediately attacked me for this, pointing out that I needed to find different liberals to talk to. Some even went so far as to imply that maybe I was just making shit up. bear with me as I set this up.
Then again, I clearly remember how the left was eager to see Reagan implement his ideas, back when he won in the early eighties, expecting them to crash and burn. At the time convention was that piss poor economic performance – the stuff that later came to be known as the carter malaise – was a given. All because big government and central planning – by the ascending club of douchebag credentialed elites that went on to run western democracies today – was the only way to go forward. these smug know-it-alls where certain that the Keynesianism and massive government expansion & control were the only thing that would work, only to freak out when Reagan’s changes resulted in a huge boom and unprecedented growth. Of course, the democrat controlled congress reacted to that boom by desperately trying to control the messaging and by sending twice what they collected out of the booming economy. Reagan was forced to go along with that so he could both get his military build up (which is what spelled the demise of the USSR) and the things he knew would spur and keep continued growth.
The left learned a huge lesson from that mistake: allowing something other than their idiotic ideas to be implemented was a recipe for disaster. After Reagan, no one would ever be allowed to challenge the standard lefty dogma unopposed. The taxpayers being fleeced, and the American people in general, be damned. And they thought they had won that battle with Obama and the narrative from the DNC operatives with bylines that spent 8 years telling us we were in a great economy, one that was always just around the corner from taking off like a bat out of hell because of the genius of the credentialed elite in charge. Mountains of money were thrown at problems those elites told us they knew how to solve. When it didn’t happen, they blamed everyone else for the failures but their stupid ideas. Heck, we even had people that argued that the reason these idiotic half-baked ideas did not pan out was that not enough money had been funneled to democrat special interest, friends, operatives, and campaign coffers! And they thought enough people were lapping the shit up that despite the abysmal reality one of the most crooked and opportunistic people would end up elected to carry on that legacy. But then reality kicked them in the teeth.
As soon as Trump won, the left, already unhinged but until then wrapping their miasma in a veneer of legitimacy, went batshit crazy. Snowflakes that had been given participation trophies and had gobbled up the propaganda about the virtues of the nanny state and its supremacy, suddenly had no idea what to do with that. Like religious fanatics, assured of their dogma’s supremacy, and smug in their belief they are the smart ones because they believe the right things, suddenly getting that all challenged, these people have basically experienced an existential crisis. The urge is to deligitimize and to assure failure (like they did with Boosh too). The enemy must be defined and defeated.
So what does this have to do with my original comment at the start of this post? Well, it seems I am not alone in having those lib friends that want Trump to not succeed/ It looks like others have similar friends or are noticing that there is definitely that component of fear of success by Trump there. Nothing is more dangerous to the nanny staters than real world events which will clearly show that their ideology offers neither real answers nor solutions. Especially in this day and age where they have lost control of the messaging.