SCORE! Reality defeats liberal bullshit global-marxist agenda

Well, thank the powers that be that Trump has kept one promise I am going to gloat and laugh about for a long time. And of course, that criminal cunt Obama immediately showed his pedantry. I give that globalist accord to rip the planet off some 6 months to a year to implode. Then again, how would you measure that any of this considering none of these douchebags claiming this is the end poor Gaia now that Trump has ripped off her clothes and thrown her to the wolves to be raped can measure success or failure of any kind in this aspect unless we count the trillions they steal from productive people to prop up the global elite’s high faluting lifestyle

Finally the scam gets the treatment it deserves

Let the good times roll people. This idiotic criminal endeavor loved by the marxist globalist alliance can’t die a quick enough death for me. Maybe we can then get to some real science until the left invents the next world ending threat that justifies them raping the rest of us over again. And yeah, before anyone even thinks to pretend this was a binding agreement of any sort, I remind you that that asshole Obama basically never ratified it with congress, making the whole thing invalid and no-binding from the start.

Oh the prog idiot tears.. Haven’t had that delicious stuff since the days after the election. Looks like I need to get my collection jars back out and resuply.

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  1. CM

    In a dramatic announcement from the White House Rose Garden on Thursday, Donald J. Trump pronounced the planet Earth a “loser” and vowed to make a better deal with a new planet.
    “Earth is a terrible, very bad planet,” he told the White House press corps. “It’s maybe the worst planet in the solar system, and it’s far from the biggest.”
    Trump blasted former President Barack Obama for signing deals that committed the United States to remain on the planet Earth indefinitely. “Obama is almost as big a loser as Earth,” Trump said. “If Obama was a planet, guess what planet he’d be? That’s right: Earth.”

    When asked which planet he would make a new deal with, Trump offered few specifics, saying only, “The solar system has millions of terrific planets, and they’re all better than Earth, which is a sick, failing loser.”
    Trump’s remarks drew a strong response from one of the United States’ nato allies, Germany’s Angela Merkel. “I strongly support Donald Trump leaving the planet Earth,” she said.

    http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/calling-earth-a-loser-trump-vows-to-make-better-deal-with-new-planet

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  2. CM

    That was a classic Alex post. I couldn’t have done better myself.

    Parody has been killed. We need Monty Python to do a Dead Parody sketch!

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  3. Iconoclast

    In a dramatic announcement…….

    This is precisely the kind of snarky, asinine hyperbole that got Trump elected in the first place. Normal Americans are simply tired of being preached at and condescended to by holier-than-thou liberals who pretend to be the moral and intellectual superiors.

    This kind of nonsense won’t change anyone’s mind. It’s merely preaching to the choir.

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  4. Iconoclast

    Those offended by the mocking to the point of supporting a guy like Trump are beyond having their minds changed.

    And the holier-than-thou condescension continues. Talk about the gift that keeps on giving…..

    What objective standard says they need to have their minds changed? What objective standard says they’re wrong?

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  5. AlexInCT *

    We are not offended by any sort of mocking. We are offended by the stupid shit you leftist demand people believe in and stupid shit you do in the name of forcing people to conform. The only people worthy of being mocked are you fucking idiots pretending AGW is a real problem and that marxist globalization is the only way to save Gaia.

    Fuck the lot of you.

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  6. CM

    And the holier-than-thou condescension continues. Talk about the gift that keeps on giving…..

    Everyone’s a winner then, so stop your whining.

    What objective standard says they need to have their minds changed? What objective standard says they’re wrong?

    But you’re proud of not even attempting to be objective. So what on earth would be the point engaging you on anything to do with objectivity? You can’t have it both ways.

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  7. CM

    We are offended by the stupid shit you leftist demand people believe in and stupid shit you do in the name of forcing people to conform. The only people worthy of being mocked are you fucking idiots pretending AGW is a real problem and that marxist globalization is the only way to save Gaia.

    Clearly you’re a fan of free-riding, as this makes the US the biggest free-rider of all. It also rejects a central tenant of your religion of capitalism, as the effects of climate change are negative externalities, i.e. market failure.

    Perhaps you now finally admit that you’re a communist.

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  8. CM

    It’s also a complete abdication of responsibility – the US is the largest historic emitter of greenhouse gas emissions, and thus bears much of the responsibility for the current warming that scientists are already measuring (roughly 1ºC, or 1.8ºF).

    I thought responsibility mattered?

    Well no, that’s not true, I guess it would be more accurate to say “I though you liked to keep pretending that responsibility mattered?”.

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  9. CM

    Secretary Powell, for instance, cited the vivid lesson that came in the ferocity of the European reaction to the president’s decision to reject the Kyoto protocol on fighting global warming. ”Kyoto — this is not talking out of school — was not handled as well as it should have been,” he said. ”And when the blowback came I think it was a sobering experience that everything the American president does has international repercussions.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/22/world/leaving-for-europe-bush-draws-on-hard-lessons-of-diplomacy.html

    And around and around we go.

    This yugely undercuts America’s standing as an international negotiating partner. 

    As Christiana Figueres observes, the blow to the international political credibility of the US can really not be underestimated.

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  10. ilovecress

    He’s saying he’s going to renegotiate….. so he’s saying that action on AGW is needed, just on more favourable terms to the US? If AGW was a Chinese hoax, why renegotiate?

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  11. Aussiesmurf

    Then again, how would you measure that any of this considering none of these douchebags claiming this is the end poor Gaia now that Trump has ripped off her clothes and thrown her to the wolves to be raped can measure success or failure of any kind in this aspect unless we count the trillions they steal from productive people to prop up the global elite’s high faluting lifestyle

    That block of words (I won’t call it a ‘sentence’) is….something, alright.

    Where do I get my membership card for this shadowy “marxist globalist alliance”, anyway?

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  12. CM

    Also Cress, the central argument of Trump’s rationale is false- the agreement is non-binding. Nothing in it stops the US from doing whatever it wants.

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  13. pekka

    Both the worldwide indignation and the gloating seem… unnecessary, given that it was a mostly symbolic pullout from a mostly symbolic agreement. And from what I gather, the administration could have effectively quit the agreement by simply ignoring it in practice. There was no need for last night’s announcement.

    But then I guess Trump needed something for his base to feel good about, given the way things have been going lately. Well, enjoy. It’s not going to last.

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  14. CM

    Yep that’s all he think this is, red meat for the declining base. But to the rest of the world it means a great deal more, and US credibility takes abother big hit. If you want to negotiate deals (so your average stiffs can get good jobs) you need to be credible. Trump is showing himself to be about the least credible dealer there is. It’s not hard selling arms to Saudi Arabia. At least the Bush administration learned even if it was the hard way.

    The ‘positive’ seems to be the usual…..pissing off liberals. Not sure that’s a way to determine public policy, creaming your pants is a transitory pleasure.

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  15. stogy

    The question now is whether the pullout from Paris will lead to an international boycott of US goods.

    I am already hearing rumblings…

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  16. stogy

    Maybe we can then get to some real science until the left invents the next world ending threat that justifies them raping the rest of us over again.

    I think it’s hilarious that you claim science is on your side, when you won’t actually read anything that contradicts your nutty beliefs and get all of your “facts” from paid misinformation sites.

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  17. CM

    “After milking the fate of the planet for maximum drama, Donald Trump announced today that the U.S. would withdraw from the Paris climate accord. To reach this decision, the President had to dismiss decades’ worth of research by the country’s most prestigious scientific organizations. He needed to resist pleas from the U.S.’s staunchest allies; ignore appeals from many of its largest corporations, including ExxonMobil; and disregard the counsel of his Secretary of State. All this for, well, what? To shore up his base on the coal-hugging right?”

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/au-revoir-trump-exits-the-paris-climate-accord

    Muppet.

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  18. CM

    Trump: “I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris,”
    Mayor of Pittsburgh: “I can assure you that we will follow the guidelines of the Paris Agreement for our people, our economy, and future” “Fact: Hillary Clinton received 80 percent of the vote in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh stands with the world, and will follow Paris Agreement”.

    Pittsburgh voters, in addition to preferring a world in which Ms Clinton is sitting behind the Resolute Desk, also tend to support regulating carbon dioxide, a major greenhouse gas, as a pollutant. A full 80 percent of adults in Pittsburgh support doing so Allegheny County, which encompasses Pittsburgh, according to Yale University’s Climate Change Communication. When accounting for the whole Pittsburgh metropolitan area the support drops only slightly, to 77 percent.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/paris-agreement-trump-withdrawal-pittsburgh-climate-change-deal-response-a7768281.html

    Muppet.

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  19. CM

    But hey at least he was “objective” about it, he mocked the idea that climate change — which is a calculation based temperature measurements over an extended period of time — exists because the Northeast United States went through a cold spell while he was in his New York penthouse.

    Oooooh but don’t mock though, otherwise morons might support him. He can mock though, that’s why people voted for him and support him.

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  20. Hal_10000

    He’s saying he’s going to renegotiate….. so he’s saying that action on AGW is needed, just on more favourable terms to the US? If AGW was a Chinese hoax, why renegotiate?

    I don’t think there’s much room here.  Trump’s pattern is to assume that all deals the US enters into are bad ones, then to slowly realize that they aren’t. That’s because his experience of deals from the business world consisted of 1) fucking people over; 2) having people peddling crap merchandise dump a few million in his lap to endorse their products before they went out of business (e.g., Trump steaks).  International agreements don’t work that way.

    I do think Pekka hits the important point: this is largely symbolic, Trump throwing a bone to the base.  The Paris deal didn’t really do much but it was most symbolic of the US taking the lead. So the real fight here is between globalists and isolationists.  The environment is kind of secondary.  And the simple fact is that the US has cut its emissions more than most countries because of efficiency and fracking. If Trump were to commit to more nuclear (which Democrats are pulling out of) he would do more good than all the Paris agreements combined.

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  21. AlexInCT *

    Renegotiate what? A deal that was meaningless and not ratified by congress, and served to do nothing but fucking over the US economy in favor of a few well connected crony capitalists and the global marxist elite movement? Fuck that shit.

    Like I have said before: if this was a real crisis, it would only be solved by engineering. And the only engineering technology that can do that is nuclear. Yet, the people pushing for more marxism absolutely want nothing to do with any of that. All they want is more intrusive government redistributing wealth from people that are productive to losers that milk the gravy train.

    As I have already said: fuck that.

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  22. Hal_10000

    Renegotiate what? A deal that was meaningless and not ratified by congress, and served to do nothing but fucking over the US economy in favor of a few well connected crony capitalists and the global marxist elite movement?

    So the deal was meaningless. But it also fucked over the entire economy for BOTH crony capitalists AND the Marxist elite.

    You’re kinda all over the road here, Alex.

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  23. Hal_10000

    I do agree that Obama should have sent this to Congress for ratification. They would, of course, had rejected it overwhelmingly.

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  24. Iconoclast

    Oooooh but don’t mock though, otherwise morons might support him.

    No, go ahead and mock, and get Trump re-elected. That way you can continue being “entertained” as you wring your hands and clutch your pearls over the Earth’s demise.

    creaming your pants is a transitory pleasure

    Well, you should know…..

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  25. Iconoclast

     stop your whining

    Love the irony!

    But you’re proud of not even attempting to be objective. So what on earth would be the point engaging you on anything to do with objectivity? 

    But you do make all these pretenses toward objectivity, which is why I was asking you the question. This ain’t about me. It’s about normal Americans, and your own claims of objectivity.

    That you spectacularly failed to deliver was expected, and not surprising in the least.

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  26. Iconoclast

     the agreement is non-binding. Nothing in it stops the US from doing whatever it wants.

    If that’s the case, then why all the foaming at the mouth and pearl clutching over the withdrawal from the agreement, which you all but admit means nothing in terms of actual practice?

    If it’s all about symbolism, well, I remember a couple of years back how you reacted to my suggestion that Obama should have gone to Washington DC to investigate some event, rather than flying off to a Las Vegas fund raiser. You pointed out that Obama would have access to communications wherever he was, and that going to DC would just be “symbolism”, implying that symbolism had no real value.

    Well, if the Paris Accord is just symbolism, it likewise has no value, nor does the “symbolism” of the US withdrawal from it.

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  27. CM

    Yeah I don’t think I’ll be responsible for Trump bring re-elected, but then I realise you’re far from an expert when it comes to responsibility.

    Trump certainly unites, even though it’s completely unintentional.

    Not fooled by your utterly disingenuous tactics around objectivity. Nice try though.

    As for what this means to Trump’s standing in the world, the same world where he’s going to get great deals, just the best deals, well yeah no point repeating myself.

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  28. CM

    “Kemp expects China and the European Union to take over from the U.S. as the prime movers on climate negotiations and to pursue deals that aren’t predicated on American participation. And that could have big economic consequences for the U.S. That’s because trade penalties are one of the primary mechanisms that international treaties, including environmental agreements, use to prevent countries that don’t participate from freeloading off the work of others. For example, the Montreal Protocol, a 1989 deal to reduce emissions of ozone-depleting chemicals, forbade its signatories from trading in those chemicals with countries that weren’t part of the agreement. In a climate agreement, a similar penalty might require the U.S. to pay carbon-based taxes on any goods we sold to member countries. In other words, the U.S. can free itself from international agreements, but not from international power.”

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumpbeat-if-you-dont-like-the-officiating-fire-the-refs/

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  29. CM

    “Early on in the speech, Trump said: “Thus, as of today, the United States will cease all implementation of the nonbinding Paris accord and the draconian financial and economic burdens the agreement imposes on our country.”…

    The Paris climate agreement, as I have explained at tedious length (see here and here), is voluntary. Participating countries determine their own targets and their own policies. They can, at any time, revise those targets and policies. They can fail to meet the targets, without penalty. When Trump says “nonbinding” … that’s what nonbinding means. There are no legal bonds.

    The point of Paris is to use the power of public commitment and accountability. The idea is that, by publicly stating targets and reporting transparently on progress, participants will be driven by pride, peer pressure, and internal politics to meet those targets. But the agreement does not impose any legal penalty on participants that fail to meet their targets. Again: That’s what nonbinding means.”

    https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/6/2/15727984/deceptions-trump-paris-speech

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  30. blameme

    So, if it is symbolic, non-binding and voluntary – then it’s all bullshit as it seems that no one that has signed on to this has met any goals.

    Only in the political world could leaving an agreement that means nothing, has no standards and no one that signed on to is meeting, becomes the end of the world.

    These agreements either need to be real, negotiated and possible or they need to go away. Otherwise the naive people that the politicians are playing to are YOU as they don’t have to do anything but say “this is bad, it’d be neat if we could meet these goals” and then never do a damn thing to do it. Talk about a fake moral high ground…

    It’s not us “morons” being played. I’m cool with clean energy – I am not cool with having the US being, once again, the country expected to “lead” when in reality by “lead” they mean pay for everyone else -like NATO, like the UN etc. Everyone needs to starting bearing the burden equally or expect more withdrawals from us.

    Frankly, we are tired of being held to ridiculous standards yet constantly being ridiculed for not having done enough. Anything we do, except for apologizing, is met with derision. Enough of it.

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  31. AlexInCT *

    So, if it is symbolic, non-binding and voluntary – then it’s all bullshit as it seems that no one that has signed on to this has met any goals.

    There you go fucking pointing out this thing’s only apparent purpose was to give the jet setting credentialed marxist elite class a reason to spew tons of carbon traveling to posh places to eat caviar, lobster and steak, drink champagne and expensive cognac, and tell the rest of us we need to pony up more money and give up more freedoms and modern conveniences so they can do more of that.

    High priest of Gaia, CM, however, wants you to know evil Trump is raping the goddess and we all will be punished for the heresy of opposing the church of marxism’s dogma.

    Like I said, I will take your cult seriously when I see them demand we immediately start building hundreds of nuclear reactors to produce carbon free power, and then get on that. Until the, especially while they peddle that green nonsense, carbon credits, and more wealth redistribution and freedom robbing crap, I will continue to cheer every time someone dick slaps your kind in their face.

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  32. CM

    You mean you’ll happily freeload and abdicate responsibility, while misrepresenting, just like your Dear Leader. So long as you’re fooling yourself though, guess that’s all that matters.

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  33. AlexInCT *

    You mean you’ll happily freeload and abdicate responsibility, while misrepresenting, just like your Dear Leader.

    Oh fuck, off already you loser. Dear Leader is a term coined for collectivist dictators. That’s your bag of dicks. Not mine. Besides, methinks you have a problem with reality. Refusing to let others fucking steal your shit is not freeloading, just like refusing to let collectivist crooks steal what you have earned by your labor is not being greedy.  I leave you with the following quote:

    “Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.

    This is known as “bad luck.”

    ― Robert A. Heinlein

    In case you need a hint your side is the “right-thinking people” Heinlein mentions always fuck us all over.

    So long as you’re fooling yourself though, guess that’s all that matters.

    Oh, the irony! I am not the one that invented a lie about an apocalypse to force an evil ideology on people that otherwise would have nothing to do with it. Like I said: start building nuclear power plants, and I will definitely consider changing my tune.

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  34. blameme

    CM – are you saying this to me? That I’m simply pushing forth what Trump is saying? That’s weird as I don’t like the dude. Just because I’m asking these question doesn’t mean I’m his lackey. They’re legitimate questions.

    If only symbolic and each country, person and business can individually strive for their own goals with us (even though with us they were NOT reaching those goals) – why the panic? Let us “lead from behind” on this one and let’s see how other countries actually step up to the plate.

    Enough of the US taxpayer shouldering the burden while others don’t meet their goals. Let’s see how dedicated France etc really are to investing THEIR money and time and actually MEETING GOALS. Once that happens we will have proof that this is more than moving US money around the world.

    Or you can just attack me personally. Up to you.

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  35. CM

    Your questions have all been answered. It’s a completely bullshit rationale that isn’t supported by facts. This is wholly transparent to the rest of the world, which is hugely damaging to the US. This is why foreign leaders are speaking directly to the US public rather than US leadership. You know, like we all do with Iran.

    The response below yours was to you and did not attack you personally.

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  36. blameme

    Telling someone they aren’t using their own ideas but spewing trash from someone else feels personal to me, but what the hell.

    None of these conversations ever result in anything. I should’ve kept my mouth shut. Enjoy your blog guys.

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  37. CM

    I apologise. Can you explain how your theory/narrative reflects reality? I mean with actual detail, having independently looked to see if it stacks up first. I think you’ll find that it doesn’t.

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  38. AlexInCT *

    I apologise. Can you explain how your theory/narrative reflects reality? I mean with actual detail, having independently looked to see if it stacks up first. I think you’ll find that it doesn’t.

    Do your own research douchebag. And so you have a chance to find actual facts and logic to help you, avoid your usual sources.

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  39. CM

    See above. You’ve not demonstrated how it’s wrong, you just keep repeating baseless illogical garbage.
    Alex for years we’ve been waiting for any evidence from you to support your gtand-conspiracy nonsense. We know why we’re still waiting, when are you going to figure it out, freeloader?

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  40. CM

    “Still, it is likely that none of the G-7 heads of state and government expected the primitive brutality Trump would stoop to when announcing his withdrawal from the international community. Surrounded by sycophants in the Rose Garden at the White House, he didn’t just proclaim his withdrawal from the climate agreement, he sowed the seeds of international conflict. His speech was a break from centuries of Enlightenment and rationality. The president presented his political statement as a nationalist manifesto of the most imbecilic variety. It couldn’t have been any worse.”

    “His speech was packed with make-believe numbers from controversial or disproven studies. It was hypocritical and dishonest. In Trump’s mind, the climate agreement is an instrument allowing other countries to enrich themselves at the expense of the United States.”

    “Trump’s speech provided only the most recent proof that discord between the U.S. and Europe is deeper now than at any time since the end of World War II.

    Now, the Western community of values is standing in opposition to Donald Trump. The G-7 has become the G-6.”

    “China and India are likely to not just meet, but exceed their climate targets. China has been reducing its coal consumption for the last three years and plans for over 100 new coal-fired power plants have been scrapped. India, too, is abstaining from the construction of new coal-fired plants and will likely meet its goal of generating 40 percent of its electricity from non-fossil fuels by 2022, eight years earlier than planned. Both countries invest in solar and wind energy and in both, electricity from renewable sources is often cheaper than coal power.”

    “In Trump’s world, there are no allies and no mature relationships, just self-interested countries with short-term interests. History means nothing to Trump; as a hard-nosed real-estate magnate, he is only interested in immediate gains. He cares little for long-term relationships.

    Two close advisers to the president contributed a piece to the Wall Street Journal this week that can be seen as something like a “Trump Doctrine.” “The world is not a ‘global community,'” wrote Gary Cohn and Herbert Raymond McMaster, Trump’s economic and security advisers. The subtext is clear: The global order, which the United States helped build, belongs to the past. There are no alliances anymore, just individual interests — no allies, just competitors. It was a clear signal to America’s erstwhile Western allies that they can no longer rely on the United States as a partner.

    It’s not surprising that Moscow is gleefully scoffing at the losers in Europe. Mariya Sakharova, the Foreign Ministry’s brash spokeswoman, gloated openly Tuesday on Vladimir Solovyov’s popular Russian talk show.”

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/trump-pulls-out-of-climate-deal-western-rift-deepens-a-1150486-amp.html

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  41. Iconoclast

    Yeah I don’t think I’ll be responsible for Trump bring re-elected…..

    Irrelevant, given I never claimed you would be. If you truly comprehended written English, you would realize that I was responding to your exhortation:

    Oooooh but don’t mock though, otherwise morons might support him.

    CM — June 2, 2017 7:24 AM

    Clearly, it ain’t about you, but about hypothetical others, some of whom may indeed aid or hinder Trump’s re-election. Typical, though, that you think it’s All About You.

    …..but then I realise you’re far from an expert when it comes to responsibility.

    Irrelevant, given that I never claimed to be an “expert” on anything.

    Not fooled by your utterly disingenuous tactics around objectivity.

    Irrelevant, given that I wan’t attempting to “fool” anyone. My observations stand, regardless of whether you’re “fooled” by reality.

    Watching you come unglued is quite the spectacle, I must admit.

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