Comey Fired

Trump has apparently fired James Comey, the head of the FBI. Comey has been a lightning rod lately with allegations that he “threw” the election to Clinton, a (possibly false) claim that Huma Abedin forward classified e-mails to her husband and an ongoing investigation into Russia. But it is apparently his failure to file charges in the e-mail scandal that precipitated this.

Updates to follow.

16 comments:

  1. CM

    It is a profoundly dangerous thing—a move that puts the Trump-Russia investigation in immediate jeopardy and removes from the investigative hierarchy the one senior official whom President Trump did not appoint and one who is known to stand up to power. One of the biggest dangers of Comey’s firing is that Trump might actually get away with it, ironically, because of Comey’s unpopularity among Democrats and on the political left.

    https://lawfareblog.com/nightmare-scenario-trump-fires-comey-one-man-who-would-stand-him

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  2. blameme

    So which is it? Was he in The Don’s corner throwing th election for him or standing up to Trump? Seems the left wants it both ways. Regardless, the investigation which started before Trump was even a nominee hasn’t produced any evidence to date and will continue probably for the next 4 years as the left hasn’t approved of a republican president since Bush 1.

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  3. CM

    Whatever the motivation, there is little doubt that his actions had an impact on the election. Anyone denying that is just loony-tunes.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/309871-nate-silver-clinton-almost-certainly-wouldve-won-if-election-were-before

    There are multiple investigations, none of them of are remotely finished. A third Grand Jury investigation has just got underway (for FISA). But yeah, clearly there is nothing, ignore the intense smoke coming from every angle. Call them off before they’ve finished. Brilliant.

     as the left hasn’t approved of a republican president since Bush 1.

    So you mean Dubya then? ;-)

    The right ‘approved’ of Obama? They sure had a funny way of showing it.

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  4. InsipiD

    The fact that neither side thought he was great means that he was either so good that they’re all afraid of him or so bad that they all detest him.  Either way, he’s gone.  How to know when it’s fake news?  If the media says that something Trump did was “unprecedented.”

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  5. blameme

    Nope. Don’t mean Dubya. He was illegitimate due to Florida. Stolen election etc. now the same for The Don. They’re scared to dsee with for the republic if the right doesn’t immediately approve of the election, but the left will fight for years if a republican wins.
    And why bring up what the right does in response? I thought you were above they do it to type of responses?

    As far as sweeping things under the rug etc – if The Don has anything to do with using Russia, impeach and jail him. I’ll be first in line. My guess is though that after investigating him this long, and with all the leaks in Washington, and NOTHING coming out that ti s him to anything….I don’t think there is anything there. If the left had anything they’d have released it by now.

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  6. blameme

    Sorry about the typos. I’m not drunk. Just typing quickly in a poor area of coverage. I meant they were scared to death for the republic. Etc. if you can’t figure anything else out just call me a Don humper and get it over with.

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  7. Hal_10000 *

    Whatever the motivation, there is little doubt that his actions had an impact on the election. Anyone denying that is just loony-tunes.

    I’ll deny it.  Silver is great at numbers but shit at punditry.  All he’s shown is that if the election were held a week earlier, Clinton would be President. And if the Super Bowl had ended five minutes earlier, my Falcons would have won.  The undecideds were not going to vote undecided.  Clinton still won the popular vote.  That it was as close as it was and that she lost critical states was her own damned fault.

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  8. CM

    You’re seriously denying that Comey’s actions so close to election day had an impact? Really?

    The detailed analysis is here:

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-comey-letter-probably-cost-clinton-the-election/

    That’s not ‘punditry’.

    And if the Super Bowl had ended five minutes earlier, my Falcons would have won.  The undecideds were not going to vote undecided.  Clinton still won the popular vote.  That it was as close as it was and that she lost critical states was her own damned fault.

    Did someone run onto the field and trip up a Falcon who was likely to score?

    Silver acknowledges that right up front:

    The letter isn’t the only reason that Clinton lost. It does not excuse every decision the Clinton campaign made. Other factors may have played a larger role in her defeat, and it’s up to Democrats to examine those as they choose their strategy for 2018 and 2020.
    But the effect of those factors — say, Clinton’s decision to give paid speeches to investment banks, or her messaging on pocket-book issues, or the role that her gender played in the campaign — is hard to measure. The impact of Comey’s letter is comparatively easy to quantify, by contrast. At a maximum, it might have shifted the race by 3 or 4 percentage points toward Donald Trump, swinging Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Florida to him, perhaps along with North Carolina and Arizona. At a minimum, its impact might have been only a percentage point or so. Still, because Clinton lost Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by less than 1 point, the letter was probably enough to change the outcome of the Electoral College.

     

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  9. CM

    Is it possible this was all just a coincidence — that Clinton’s numbers went into decline for reasons other than Comey’s letter? I think there’s a decent case (which we’ll take up in a moment) that some of the decline in Clinton’s numbers reflected reversion to the mean and was bound to happen anyway.
    But it’s not credible to claim that the Comey letter had no effect at all. It was the dominant story of the last 10 days of the campaign. According to the news aggregation site Memeorandum, which algorithmically tracks which stories are gaining the most traction in the mainstream media, the Comey letter was the lead story on six out of seven mornings from Oct. 29 to Nov. 4, pausing only for a half-day stretch when Mother Jones and Slate published stories alleging ties between the Trump campaign and Russia.

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  10. Hal_10000 *

    Nate Cohn had good rebuttal to Silver, pointing out that Clinton’s numbers were falling before the Comey letter was release and bottomed out at around that time before rebounding slightly in the last week.  The entire race was consistent with Clinton+2 with occasional perturbations due to Trump meltdowns.  She ended up at +2 and lost because she fucked up.

    In other news, Trump just admitted that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation.  That’s textbook abuse of power.

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  11. CM

    And Silver responded….

    https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/861611275717156868

    …accounting for poll timing reduces the Comey effect by 0.7 points. But that would leave you with a 2 or 2.5-point effect…and Clinton lost the tipping-point state, Wisconsin, by only 0.8 points. People seem to forget how narrow Trump’s victory was. I argued here that I’m a “small Comey” guy. I think the effect was more like 1-2 points than 3-4 points…I think it requires a pretty creative interpretation of the data to argue that Comey wasn’t enough to swing WI, MI & PA, though. Also, one’s prior here shouldn’t be zero effect. Earlier Email/FBI stories had a clear effect on Clinton’s polls.

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  12. AlexInCT

    You’re seriously denying that Comey’s actions so close to election day had an impact? 

    I think Hillary’s criminal actions and the revelation they rigged the donkey primary, along with 8 years of elitist leftists fucking everyone but themselves over, had far more of an impact than anything Comey did, but hey, I love that idiots want to blame everything but the obvious fact Clinton was a horrible and corrupt candidate and person. Russians, patriarchy, mysogyny, racism, blah blah blah… What about Hillary is a despicable human being and a plywood board has more character and honesty to offer people that are not sucking at the corrupt apparatus created by team blue?

    The world was spared more corrupt ineptness, and we got lucky that after 8 disastrous years, people said enough of that bullshit. The left will throw tantrums, lie, steal, cheat, and even go so far as to burn down everything in order to get revenge for the proles daring to oppose what they told everyone was inevitable and turning against them.

    As I said here before only to have the usual idiots pretend otherwise: Trump can’t be allowed to succeed.

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  13. Aussiesmurf

    CM : [Makes respectful point using statistics]

    Hal : [Makes respectful rebuttal using statistics]

    CM : [Makes respectful point using statistics]

    Alex : YOU IDIOTS HILLARY CORRUPT CRIMINAL EVIL CLINTONS ARGLE BARGE RUN ON SENTENCES I KNOW MORE THAN ALL OF YOU PUT TOGETHER LEFTARDS

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  14. AlexInCT

    How does that saying about statistics, especially when used by liberals, go again? Lies, damned lies, and of course statistics.

    BTW, I am wide open to either of you assholes showing me the “statistics” that disprove my point that Clinton is a corrupt and despicable criminal and lost the election because someone did us all a favor and exposed the lot of them.

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