Someone got it…

I bet you in the future, that’s exactly how they will react to these tantrums..

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  1. stogy

    Er… I was waiting for something funny to happen…

    and waiting…

    Is it too much to ask that smackdowns be clever and insightful?

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  2. AlexInCT *

    You know Stogy, I agree with you totally. This was not humorous. But of course, this was not intended to be funny, at all.  Instead it is meant to make you think. To contrast how someone from the future (one where PC nonsense has been done away with and reality dominates, not wishful thinking), watching this dreck speech, would realize this was when a good part of the world went absolutely fucking crazy.

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  3. stogy

    one where PC nonsense has been done away with and reality dominates, not wishful thinking

    So you mean that a society where people can behave like dicks and not get called out for it?

    And “fire phasers” gets us there exactly how?

     

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  4. AlexInCT *

    So you mean that a society where people can behave like dicks and not get called out for it?

    Yeah, because that’s what the left does. Call people out for behaving like dicks. Me, what I see is the left wanting to control speech and thought, not just defining what being a dick is, but reserving the right to have a double standard about how they treat others that will not join the tribe as well.

    But hey, pretend that what the left really is doing is stopping people from being dicks. That’s so much more noble than admitting you all took books like “Brave new world” and “1984”, representative of a dystopian society where a few get to control not just what can be said, but what can be thought and done, and turned them into “How to” manuals.

    Me, I vote for freedom of speech, yes even if that speech is used to be dicks. That and individual rights. Those that hold dear the beliefs that have murdered over 100 million and imprisoned billions in misery, should never be allowed near power. Especially when they claim they are doing what they are doing out of some noble pursuit.

    And “fire phasers” gets us there exactly how?

    Death to stupidity and absurdity?

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  5. stogy

    Me, what I see is the left wanting to control speech and thought, 

    So when Fox News calls people out for saying “Happy Holidays” instead of Merry Christmas, that isn’t an attempt to control speech, it’s a problem that can be fixed by “fire phasers”?

    Why aren’t I allowed to say “Happy Holidays”? Why is that PC?

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  6. stogy

    The problem for you isn’t Ashley Judd’s methods (you said “I vote for freedom of speech, yes even if that speech is used to be dicks),  it’s that you don’t agree with what she is saying. Ashley Judd is not advocating thought control – she’s reciting a poem. And rather than defending her own right to be a dick, you post a “funny” video that suggests her free speech is a problem that can be solved by “fire phasers” (or shooting her). You don’t see the hypocrisy here?

    I get that you were trying to be funny, but this video is really a lame own goal. Ashley Judd already gets massively trolled online, including rape and death threats. You disagree with her? Then post (or make) a video that actually points to the hypocrisy in her own speech, rather than your own.

     

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  7. AlexInCT *

    So when Fox News calls people out for saying “Happy Holidays” instead of Merry Christmas, that isn’t an attempt to control speech, it’s a problem that can be fixed by “fire phasers”?

    Wait, you are trying to make an argument and claiming Fox wants to control speech, and then, because it is fighting the people that changed the saying from Merry Christmas to Happy Holidays in the first place? Yeah sure. I tend to tell everyone Happy Kwaanza myself.

    Why aren’t I allowed to say “Happy Holidays”? Why is that PC?

    Nobody says you can’t, if that is really what you want to say. The problem they are addressing however is the demand that nobody be allowed to say Merry Christmas, Happy Kwaanza, or even Happy Donkey Dick Day, if that is what they choose to say. And I suspect you know damned well that is what’s going on and are hoping people are too stupid to miss that the whole returning to saying something other than “Happy holidays” is itself rebellion against imposed speech.

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  8. AlexInCT *

    The problem for you isn’t Ashley Judd’s methods (you said “I vote for freedom of speech, yes even if that speech is used to be dicks),  it’s that you don’t agree with what she is saying.

    Actually Stogy, and I think you missed it, I am all for people saying whatever they want. In fact, if I could have my way, I would love for Judd, and all the other snowflakes, to do a lot more of this. A ton more.

    I defend all people’s right to say whatever they want, even when what they do is be dicks, or worse. I think the KKK (the real deal, you know, old time democrats) and communists are vile people, but I respect their right  to say and believe whatever the fuck they want, even if it is vile. As long as they don’t harm others that is..I also abhor the concept of safe zones, or such other nonsense, that only allow approved speech with all my being. It is a sign of decay and totalitarianism.

    However, I am also a firm advocate that when you say stupid shit, I (and others) have the right to make fun of you. Note that you don’t have to listen to people say stupid shit, but you can’t ban them from doing it either. And no, unlike the left I will not try to get you fired, have your life ruined, and/or sent to reeducation camp. I will just mercilessly make fun of your stupidity.

    In case you missed it, that’s what I am saying about Judd: she is a fucking idiot and I see nothing but a reflection of how sad and dumb the people that believe that nonsense she spouted are. It is not because I don’t like what she is saying (I actually hope people on the left say a lot more of it, as I have repeatedly mentioned), but because what she is saying is delusional and stupid. I understand that’s too hard for you to grasp, but try to keep up man.

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  9. stogy

    There is nothing wrong with people choosing to use language that they consider to be more inclusive if they like. That doesn’t mean that they are necessarily trying to impose speech or control how other people think, and actively trying to stop them is actually doing just that. I am sure you can find some idiot who says that we should always say “Happy Holidays” to be more inclusive and shouts down people using “Merry Christmas” but a lot of outrage over it is completely confected, trumped up, and as Cress said recently, designed to generate clickbait. It’s way disproportionate to the “crime”.

    The issue with the anti-PC movement is that they are actually arguing against personal responsibility, and that people have a right to say whatever they like without ever being held accountable for it. Yes, I agree with you that people have the right to be a dick, but they should be aware that it will have consequences. Pointing out that someone is being a dick doesn’t mean that the person doing the pointing is PC.

    Again, there was nothing in the video you posted that showed Ashley Judd calling for changing the language people use. You just didn’t like what she said, so therefore it was PC. You dislike the content – take her to task – but PC is a lazy argument.

    I am curious. What exactly would the world look like if “political correctness” were to be done away with? The Star Trek universe would seem to me to be the embodiment of human decency – the realization of a society where the language of discrimination had been eradicated, which makes this video even more of a head scratch.

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  10. stogy

    In case you missed it, that’s what I am saying about Judd: she is a fucking idiot and I see nothing but a reflection of how sad and dumb the people that believe that nonsense she spouted are. It is not because I don’t like what she is saying (I actually hope people on the left say a lot more of it, as I have repeatedly mentioned), but because what she is saying is delusional and stupid. I understand that’s too hard for you to grasp, but try to keep up man.

    Er no… you didn’t say that. You said “fire phasers” and PC nonsense like this should be done away with. Even though it wasn’t PC at all. It was just her exercising her right to read a poem to a large enthusiastic audience. There is nothing here that connects what she said to “PC” except you. And you didn’t even make fun of it, let alone “mercilessly”. Or take it apart. You still haven’t. You were just lazy.

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