Romper Room Governing

Defiant to the very last, democrats and bellyaching, will it ever end?

The purpose of this play date was for Congress to certify (once and for all) the electoral college votes cast for the presidential race. Despite all the temper tantrums, Biden managed to get through the final tally. Paul Ryan is a better man than me, eye rolls, laughing to himself, what control.

Folks, this is just a preview. In a perfect world the GOP would have gotten super majorities in both houses, then, just lock the dems out and get on with the adult business of governing. Tell all the dems that Congress will be in session in the lady’s room, plenty of Kleenex readily available.

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  1. CM

    McConnell when Obama was elected: We will obstruct and oppose anything and everything Obama tries to do.

    McConnell when Trump is elected: The Dems better not try and obstruct or oppose anything at all.

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  2. AlexInCT

    McConnell when Obama was elected: We will obstruct and oppose anything and everything Obama tries to do.

    McConnell when Trump is elected: The Dems better not try and obstruct or oppose anything at all.

    Obama when he won: I won you fuckers, and I will not work with anyone on the other side. Fuck you all.

    I hope Trump does the same

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  3. richtaylor365 *

    Alex, CM desperately clings to 3 false concepts;

    1) that 2 wrongs do in fact make a right, that bad behavior can be justified by incidents of other bad behavior.

    2)Proportion, that all bad deeds are equal, a punch in the nose is somehow equal to a bullet in the head.

    3) And being lazy in gathering facts. McConnell said ,”I want to make Obama a one term president”  2 full years after Obama became president, here are parts of that interview;

    NJ: What’s the job?

    McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.

    NJ: Does that mean endless, or at least frequent, confrontation with the president?

    McConnell: If President Obama does a Clintonian backflip, if he’s willing to meet us halfway on some of the biggest issues, it’s not inappropriate for us to do business with him.

    NJ: What are the big issues?

    McConnell: It is possible the president’s advisers will tell him he has to do something to get right with the public on his levels of spending and [on] lowering the national debt. If he were to heed that advice, he would, I imagine, find more support among our conference than he would among some in the Senate in his own party. I don’t want the president to fail; I want him to change. So, we’ll see. The next move is going to be up to him.

    Notice McConnell said nothing even remotely similar to what CM said he said.

     

    OH, and I will add a fourth, a fall back position to dishonesty when cornered.

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  4. AlexInCT

    OH, and I will add a fourth, a fall back position to dishonesty when cornered.

    See Rich, that’s where you and I differ on opinions about him and his ability to actually debate in earnest. From my practical experience and having spent over 2 years actually thinking the guy might mean well but is just unable to do logic, I came to realize, painfully too, that he starts off from that position like his ideology warrants.

    Oh, don’t get me wrong. Occasionally, especially right after he got called on it, he will throw you a bone, but as soon as he feels he needs to kill a discussion – which seems to be practically every time you or I post – he takes it into la-la-land. And now he has a partner in crime and they think they are clever because they keep up voting each other.

    I used to feel sorry for people like that. I suspected life would hand them a plethora of shit sandwiches to eat and actually was hoping to help them avoid that. But the more I see them in action (libs in general, not just our two resident trolls), the less empathy I have. Karma. It is a bitch.

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  5. CM

    “Vice President Joe Biden told the author that during the transition, “seven different Republican Senators” told him that “McConnell had demanded unified resistance.” This was after the 2008 election but before Obama and Biden took office.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/republicans-had-it-in-for-obama-before-day-1/2012/08/10/0c96c7c8-e31f-11e1-ae7f-d2a13e249eb2_blog.html

    More: http://swampland.time.com/2012/08/23/the-party-of-no-new-details-on-the-gop-plot-to-obstruct-obama/

    I’ve never ever argued that two wrongs make a right, this is about their and your hypocrisy. I strongly argued proportion when comparing Clinton to Trump.

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  6. richtaylor365 *

    Excuse me if I don’t put much credence in the hearsay ramblings of an outgoing VP who said Trump was unfit for the office. I wonder if any of those 7 senators ever told Biden they thought Obama unfit for the office, any wagers on that?

    Look, the issue (again, taking you by the hand to get you back on track) is not one party’s opposition to the others agenda. Of course the minority party is going to fight the majority party over agenda, isn’t that a given? All those clandestine back room meetings your links describe, where they got to together to talk strategy in opposing Obama’s agenda, you don’t think the exact same thing is going on now, Democrats getting together to oppose Trump? That’s politics, I would expect that, which is why I don’t write about Shumer stating publicly that he will oppose ANY Trump nominee for SCOTUS, or about the Dems coming out with “Make America Sick Again”. They all bought off on that nightmare healthcare mess of a bill, I would expect them to defend the indefensible.

    Now, if you can provide any evidence, a youtube video, showing similar juvenile behavior by the GOP when the Congress was certifying the electoral votes for Obama’s victory, in either election, then I  will shame and mock them as well. And no, countering such shameful behavior with ,”Well, McConnell said he was going to oppose Obama, so there”, is no serious rebuttal at all.

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  7. AlexInCT

    Political Kabuki by the left: and nothing else:

    The last time Congressional Democrats peaceably accepted a GOP victory in the Electoral College was 1988. In 2000, 2004 and 2016, Democrats in Congress objected, tried to object, and generally disrupted the process of certifying the Electoral College vote. They did so with no substantive grounds, instead just for the political theater of it.

    Yeah, I knew that. This is just a show for the people that feel about things and lack logic or reasoning ability. After all, divide and conquer, then instigate by emotional appeal, is the left’s MO.

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  8. richtaylor365 *

    Democrats don’t accept election outcome — again

    Good find. You think maybe if we could get rid of those same old harpies on the left, that they would knock the shit off?

    Another good argument for term limits.

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  9. stogy

    Er… my memory might be faulty, but didn’t Alan Keyes file a birther lawsuit back in 2008, and as part of this, called on California to not be allowed to its 55 electoral college votes until Obama could verify his place of birth? Now while you might argue that Alan Keyes was not technically a member of the Republican Party at the time, he only withdrew so he could continue to run after he lost his bid for the nomination.

    You are very welcome to mock Alan Keyes if you like. I’ll even applaud. He’s definitely mockable.

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  10. AlexInCT

    Another good argument for term limits.

    I hope Trump makes congress do this. You all but kill the nanny state if you kill career politicians.

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  11. AlexInCT

    Er… my memory might be faulty, but didn’t Alan Keyes file a birther lawsuit back in 2008

    You mean after the Clinton machine dropped that tid-bit about Obama not being a citizen? Cause THAT is the important piece people that want to accuse anyone that believed this stuff was crazy, conveniently ALWAYS forget.

    You can go with this two ways: the Clinton machine made that shit up and are damned liars, or they knew this was the fact but then, once Obama won, they backed off and protected him, which also makes them damned liars. Either way, you get to see the Clinton machine in action, and as we now know they will do whatever it takes.

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  12. stogy

    Ah… here we are:

    The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state’s 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.

     

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  13. AlexInCT

    So Keyes filed a lawsuit and followed the legal process, while democrats do political Kabuki in congress of all places, and you find equivalence. I wonder why the democrats would not go on record and file a suit if they really felt there was any issue…

    Thanks for making that all clear Stogy. As usual, you don’t disappoint.

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  14. AlexInCT

    That story has been widely debunked Alex, and the link you posted is a clever piece of misinformation and redirection.

    That story was only debunked if you want to ignore the facts and reality, Stogy. I actually remember hearing the story come out of the Clinton campaign when it did during the 2008 elections and wondering if it was just their usual lies or real. And I also know the media has spent the last 8 years twisting itself into pretzels to do away with this problematic revelation that would have hurt Hillary in the election she thankfully lost. There is a reason the media has lost its credibility, and lying to provide cover to the Clintons like they did in this case, is one of the important ones.

    Hey, keep it up man. Every time your kind acts as if you have the facts on your side, when you obviously and actually don’t, it makes the left less relevant to people finally realizing they have been lied to by people like you.

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  15. stogy

    So Keyes filed a lawsuit and followed the legal process, while democrats do political Kabuki in congress of all places, and you find equivalence. 

    Actually, I was simply meeting Rich’s requirement of “similar juvenile behavior by the GOP when the Congress was certifying the electoral votes for Obama’s victory” Keyes went full nutbag in describing the mortal threat to the nation that Obama represented, saying stuff like:

    “He’s going to destroy this country, and we’re either going to stop him or the United States of America is going to cease to exist… The man is an abomination… We’re in the midst of the greatest crisis this country has ever seen and if we don’t stop laughing about it and deal with it, we’re going to find ourselves in the midst of chaos, confusion, and Civil War.”

    How’s that civil war going?

     I wonder why the democrats would not go on record and file a suit if they really felt there was any issue…

    Someone from the Dems would almost certainly have done so if Ted Cruz had won the nomination and the presidency. But then Trump was the main agitator in this respect.

    As usual, you don’t disappoint.

    You do. Continually.

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  16. AlexInCT

    Actually, I was simply meeting Rich’s requirement of “similar juvenile behavior by the GOP when the Congress was certifying the electoral votes for Obama’s victory” Keyes went full nutbag in describing the mortal threat to the nation that Obama represented, saying stuff like:

    By comparing the filing of a lawsuit and going on record to a bunch of douchebags acting like petulant children, for TV ratings of all reasons?

    Like I said. Priceless.

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  17. stogy

    Regardless, Alex, it doesn’t actually have any bearing on the point I made above. And there are plenty of Republicans who also don’t think that Trump is suitable for office now.

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  18. stogy

    Just breaking down your 7 stories link, the only ACTUAL reference to Obama being born outside of the US was the “anonymous” e-mail being circulated by Clinton supporters.

    Snopes agrees that this was the case, but the origin of that e-mail was FreeRepublic.com, which is a conservative, not a Democrat site – a month before that e-mail started to be circulated. It was repeated a few days later on Ruthless Roundup, another conservative blog.

     

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  19. richtaylor365 *

     I was simply meeting Rich’s requirement of “similar juvenile behavior

    But you did not meet the requirement at all. Keyes was a private citizen, not a member of congress, he was not part of a formal process, namely the final confirmation of congressional certification of the electoral votes. Any damn fool can file any damn petition they want, regardless of the merits. This is nothing like the spectacle we witnessed by these elected officials, who’s very duty (what duty did Keyes have?) was to certify for the record the official electoral vote count.

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  20. stogy

    Well, you just said the GOP in your initial challenge. My apologies if I misunderstood. The shenanigans was all happening outside the joint session.

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  21. AlexInCT

    Snopes agrees that

    Snopes. That’s your problem right there. You mean Snopes that was caught lying for Clinton. You mean that Snopes where we had to go to partisan organization to find out it was run by lefitst shills?

    You can believe what you see on Snopes and actually hold them up as an authority to be trusted. Me – especially if the facts are about liberals being crooks and liars – will double check whatever bullshit places like Snopes or such other “fact checker sites”, that lie just like the DNC operatives with bylines because they are staffed with liberal twits, since I expect them to try to pass off bullshit as facts. [Hey Cress, if you are still lurking here, do you see what I mean about “false news” really being a problem with the media? The media did this to themselves.]

    Case in point your assertion Snopes somehow should make me disbelief my own memory and lying eyes. The Clinton machine was behind this. So either they lied to us about Obama not being a citizen or they revealed the truth, then lied about it not being so, and even worse, tried to pass it off as someone else’s lie. In either case, you are defending people we know lie, cheat, and tried to steal an election in collusion with the media of all things. Their own emails have said so, not my opinion.

    Keep defending the indefensible man.

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  22. stogy

    Keep defending the indefensible man.

    OK. So…. all you have to do is show that the Clinton supporters’ e-mails predated the Free Republic posts, and that the Clinton campaign itself was active in disseminating this pernicious misinformation, and you’ve beaten Snopes, and me, and you win the internet. Again, I have seen no direct link between the “Clinton machine” and the origin of the Obama birther rumor – you haven’t linked or posted to anything that has done that. There were clear attempts from the Clinton campaign to represent Obama as not being American-enough, but this falls short of an original link. They were also afterwards.

    Remember, to win the internet, afterwards doesn’t count. It must be before. Before, not afterwards. Right?

    I gotta go do some work.

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  23. AlexInCT

    Again, I have seen no direct link between the “Clinton machine” and the origin of the Obama birther rumor

    And you never will Stogy, even if Clinton told you it was so, because you don’t want to. And yet, you have seen no evidence of any of the Russian election hacking, and you believed that nonsense on flim-flam evidence. Go fucking figure! Don’t worry bra. There are many others just like you. Most of them are shitting their pants because Trump is gonna be president and they have no idea how idiotically spoiled they are being.

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  24. CM

    Rich if you looked at my Time link you’d know that it doesn’t rely on a single source.

    No actual evidence yet again, Alex? Just all ‘feelz’? Same old Alex. Whatever he accuses others of, you can be pretty sure it’s projection.

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  25. AlexInCT

    No actual evidence yet again, Alex?

    You wouldn’t know evidence if it showed up in a shirt spelling it out on 72 point letters dude, so please stop acting like you are anything but a fucking douche.

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  26. stogy

    And you never will Stogy, even if Clinton told you it was so, because you don’t want to.

    Er… I read through your own links carefully and reported what they said. And posted some evidence that the birther myth had earlier origins, which you still haven’t dealt with. So you have as yet posted no evidence that the Hillary campaign created the birther story. Now’s your chance. Put up or shut up.

    And yet, you have seen no evidence of any of the Russian election hacking.

    I have made no comments about that (as yet) at all. Not one. Not sure where you got that idea from.

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  27. CM

    You wouldn’t know evidence if it showed up in a shirt spelling it out on 72 point letters dude, so please stop acting like you are anything but a fucking douche.

    That’s just yet another example of what you post when you lack evidence.

    Not sure where you got that idea from.

    He has a lot of trouble differentiating between anyone left of extreme-right. I get accused of all kinds of nonsense all the time. Sometimes it’s like visiting a senile old grandparent in a home.

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  28. AlexInCT

    That’s just yet another example of what you post when you lack evidence.

    Actually it is a response produced after evidence is basically presented and dismissed or ignored based on nothing but whim. Something about trying to do the same thing, over and over, despite the result being the same, comes to mind.

    More of this, PLEAZUH!

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