It’s Hateful, But Is It A Hate Crime?

This story is just revolting:

Hate crime and kidnapping charges were filed Thursday against four people who Chicago police say bound, gagged and beat a teenager with special needs while broadcasting the attack on social media.

The brutal attack, which had political and racial connotations — the victim is white, and the suspects are black — sent shockwaves across the nation, and was even addressed at the White House press briefing Thursday.

Thirty minutes of the torturous attack were streamed live on Facebook, but authorities said it was a six-hour ordeal that evolved out of a play fight, with the victim beaten, kicked, cut and forced to drink from a toilet.

The victim, who is not being identified, is an 18-year-old with “mental health challenges” from Crystal Lake.

During the live-streamed part of the attack, these thugs said things like, “Fuck white people” and “Fuck Trump”. There’s an ongoing online debate about whether this was a hate crime or not. It’s a debate I’m not terrifically interested in. Maybe they targeted the kid because he was white, maybe they targeted him because of his mental health issues and maybe they’re just pieces of shit. What was done was brutal, vicious and sadistic. The perpetrators — all of whom are adults — deserve to have the book thrown at them regardless of what actually motivated them.

I am, generally speaking, averse to “hate crimes” as a category of crime. I won’t change that position now. Kidnapping, assault, battery, etc. are plenty charges enough to bring against these guys.

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  1. AlexInCT

    It’s a crime, period, and I hope the scumbags that did this are ass raped in pound-me-in-the-ass prison.

    The idea of a “hate crime” is an invention by assholes that want to use this stupidity to further break apart the American people in order to better control the fragmented groups. It needs to disappear down that latrine that set it loose upon us.

    What can not be debated is that these are Clinton voters that did this, and thus leftists. Show me a travesty, and I can almost be guarantee it was done by a lefitst.

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  2. AlexInCT

    During the live-streamed part of the attack, these thugs said things like, “Fuck white people” and “Fuck Trump”. There’s an ongoing online debate about whether this was a hate crime or not. It’s a debate I’m not terrifically interested in. Maybe they targeted the kid because he was white, maybe they targeted him because of his mental health issues and maybe they’re just pieces of shit. 

    They targeted him primarily because they felt he was easy pray. They would not have tried this with someone armed and able to defend themselves. Cowards the lot of these sub-human scumbags democrat constituents.

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  3. richtaylor365

     There’s an ongoing online debate about whether this was a hate crime or not. It’s a debate I’m not terrifically interested in

    You should be interested in the hypocrisy, the double standard exhibited almost daily by the left, namely that racism is a by product of white privilege only and thus only white people can either be racist or be charged with a hate crime. This was played out from the get go by the Chicago police, the somersaults performed in down playing the racist angle despite the video and going with ,”kids will be kids”.

    As stated so many times on this blog,  the very concept of hate crimes is stupid, a byproduct of the lefts’ faux indignation as to their misguided perception of equality, they created this monster, and so that old hoist/petard thingee smacks them in the face. If a hate crime enhancement guarantees some real hard time for these criminals, so be it.

    What can not be debated is that these are Clinton voters that did this

    I would bet none of them ever voted in their short misguided lives.

    OT, what are the odds that after tomorrow’s intelligence briefing, where the country’s top intelligence agencies show absolute conclusive proof to Trump that Russia did indeed wage cyber warfare against us, that Trump will dig in his heels, cast continued doubt at the evidence, and obstinately stick with his ,”I know best” trope?

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  4. CM

    I don’t think anyone would bother offering odds on that, Rich. Trump has already mocked them all and made it clear that they’re full of shit. He clearly couldn’t give a rats what they’ll tell him tomorrow. Their swamp needs draining.

    I imagine over the next four years a hell of a lot will be simply withheld from Trump, for the good of America and the planet.

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  5. AlexInCT

    As I have repeatedly said: If it turns out Russia hacked the DNC and handed out their email, the Russians need to be given a Medal of Freedom for it. Remember that these are the very democrats that told us an unsecured server that was hacked was no bi deal, that turned a blind eye to other hacking and security risks, and have basically not bothered much with security in the US until whomever got their information and basically exposed them for the lying crooks they are.

    The left is NOT pissed that anyone was hacking or compromising US security – the last 8 years have more than proven that they could care less about that – but got mega pisses and started screaming about a red scare when someone basically showed their dirty laundry. Fuck these hypocritical douchebags. I never thought I would see the day where the very people that have made every imaginable excuse for tyrants and collectivism would be butthurt and make a 180 turn, but I am telling you it is just priceless to me to see the left fucked over by their own gross incompetence and exposed as the assholes they are. Medals, I tell. Medals.

    I imagine over the next four years a hell of a lot will be simply withheld from Trump, for the good of America and the planet.

    Says an idiot that even after the revelations of how corrupt and evil the Clintons and the democrats are, still thinks that she was a better choice. Me, I hope Trump guts the corrupt, ineffective, inefficient, useless, and politicized intelligence situation Obama left this this country with. And I hope that doesn’t stop there. The military top brass needs a major culling too. It’s high time that these people and their agenda were shown the road, along with the entire left’s ideology.

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  6. AlexInCT

    Back on this topic: the left is twisting itself into pretzels to explain why this isn’t racism and to pretend that it is an isolated incident that has no reflection on their incitement of anger and calls for violence, and isn’t even news worthy. All because ,again, according to their ideology, only white people and right-wingers can be racist and commit “hate crimes”.

    Losing that monopolistic control of what people get to find out is really going on in the real world, so they can keep the left’s idiotic narrative alive, must gall the left. Can you imagine how much horrible and evil shit that happened was hidden from us by these credentialed elites over the last 50 years that the DNC operatives with bylines and their counterparts in other nations had control of the news?

    No wonder they are in full censor and control the sources of “news” (in scary quotes on purpose because these people want nothing that amounts to real news to come out) mode. Orwell, Huxley, and Rand had it right. Unfortunately for us the left read these tomes and used the caricature of the evil totalitarian entities in them as “how to” guides.

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  7. richtaylor365

    Remember that these are the very democrats that told us an unsecured server that was hacked was no bi deal, that turned a blind eye to other hacking and security risks, and have basically not bothered much with security in the US until whomever got their information and basically exposed them for the lying crooks they are.

    It’s worse than that;

    The Democratic National Committee “inhibited” the FBI’s investigation of email hacks by refusing to grant investigators access to the party’s computer servers, the bureau is claiming.

    “The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated,” an FBI official said Thursday, according to BuzzFeed News.

    “This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier.”

    Their incessant braying aside, this is all of their own doing. They (the DNC) said and did those deplorable things, they did not secure the proof of their malfeasance (Assange said a 14 year old could have hacked their servers) and now they are whining because their own actions have surfaced for public consumption.

     

    Something else troubling, I read this morning (hope the source is wrong) that the predominant evidence connecting the Russian government to this hacking was their ebullience to the Trump win, are you kidding? I was fairly ebullient after the Cubs World Series win, but I had nothing to do with it, I swear.



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  8. AlexInCT

    Their incessant braying aside, this is all of their own doing. 

    Concur Rich, but the points that need to be hammered home are the following:

    Democrats couldn’t be bothered with national security (Clinton servers and this administration’s general lack of interest in any of thi shit unless it was personal), election fraud of any kind (the purveyance of democrats), or admit Russia was trouble (remember them making fun of Romney?), until someone hacked DNC servers and exposed the DNC and the Clintons for the crooks they are. Then suddenly we got us a massive red scare, and anyone that didn’t feel we should basically throw out the election results was a Russian stooge or secret agent.

    The crime the whomever hacked the democrats committed that finally made the democrats security continuous, was not done by someone doing ill to America or Americans – the left actually cheered this shit on for over a hundred years and has spend decades defending communism and its evils, lying that fascism was not also a collectivist ideology so they could find a contrast to make, and in general undermining this country, with the Obama administration taking this behavior to new extremes over the last 8 years – but to expose the left’s flaws. Hillary allowing them to steal information with real implications? Pfeh, that can only be a rightwing smear campaign!

    The only election hacking or fraud in 2016 happened by democrats (Detroit anyone?). The accusation that Russia hacked our election is beyond preposterous. What happened – what really happened – was that someone exposed them for crooks, liars, and despicable people, and they want to deflect from that and delegitimize Trump’s candidacy, all in one shot by orchestrating this red scare.

    This is just the left doing what they do – lie, cheat, and play dirty – all the time, and doing it out of anger that they got outplayed. Like I said: even if the Russians did this, and I remain doubtful, they deserve medals for doing it. Whomever leaked this should be given honors and proclaimed a hero of the American people. Fuck the corrupt left.

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