Obama Whacks Russia

By comparison of Obama to Michael Corleone at the end of The Godfather is looking more and more apt:

President Barack Obama took unprecedented steps Thursday to retaliate against alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election, prompting vows from Russian authorities that Moscow will respond in kind.

The administration described Russia’s involvement as “Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities” and sanctioned six Russian individuals and five Russian entities, as well as ordering dozens of Russian diplomats to leave the country. This is the first time the names of Russian officials involved in the hacking have become public on the sanctions list.

Obama said 35 Russian diplomats have been ordered to leave the country and two Russian compounds are being closed under Thursday’s actions.

“Russia’s cyberactivities were intended to influence the election, erode faith in US democratic institutions, sow doubt about the integrity of our electoral process, and undermine confidence in the institutions of the US government,” a White House statement said. “These actions are unacceptable and will not be tolerated.”

According to statements from the White House and the Treasury Department, the government has sanctioned nine entities and individuals over their alleged interference in the election: the GRU and the FSB, two Russian intelligence services; four individual officers of the GRU; three companies that provided material support to the GRU’s operations. The US also sanctioned two Russian individuals for using cyber-enabled means to cause misappropriation of funds and personal identifying information.

I think this is appropriate, assuming the CIA is correct about Russian interference. The point is not that Russia “won” the election for Trump. The point is that they are sewing doubt and discord and trying to humiliate the US. It also, again, is about boxing Trump into a corner where he will have to actively lift the sanctions if he wants to kiss Putin’s butt.

  1. Is Obama at least going to provide evidence that this supposed hack the left is so pissed off about – after they couldn’t be bothered that an unsecured Clinton server was basically looked at by every enemy of the US and they told us there was no crime here because gramma Clinton just did a whoopsie – happened first? Because from what I hear the intelligence community has also now decided to hide behind the “National Security” blanket when asked for evidence which is code to those in the know, usually implies that “This is all likely all bullshit”.

    Methinks West Virginia Rebel also hit it right on the head. The left has decided to hand Trump as many “ready to go off” hand grenades as possible to undermine him (I wish the next republican leaving office would do the same to a democrat following them in for a change so we could finally hear the DNC operatives with bylines go bananas). Russia, Israel, the executive orders to block energy exploration and recovery, and so on. This is more about trying as hard as possible to destroy the US economy & position in the world, especially if this damage hits those “deplorables” Clinton mentioned hard as well. Its all as if this is a bunch of vindictive fugly cunts trying to get even with the jock that they are pissed is banging the hawt chicks and wouldn’t give them the time of day, or something…

    My guess is they are hoping that Trump actually revokes this stupid shit so they can then point a finger and can continue this charade and say how “He is in league with Putin!”. And if he doesn’t it leaves Russia angry at him and prevents him from engaging them and actually solving issues like adults would, which would show how inept the Obama administration was. The sad reality is that the only things the left is really good at all involve criminal activities, destroying the US economically and as a n nation, and undermining stability, here and globally. Fixing shit that needs fixing? Not ever (not to be confused with them taking credit for things being fixed by others, or worse, taking credit for fixing something they made worse – see Obamacare).

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  2. It’s funny, because I find myself in the middle, again. On the one hand, I agree with what Michael Tracey said earlier today that this was the most benign interference w/ an election ever: release truthful emails from a campaign that were somewhat embarrassing to them.

    And I also think the Democrats are playing this up for political benefit. Fully half of Democrats think Russia “hacked” the election returns. There is no evidence of this. But the Democrats are deliberately muddying the waters here, trying to confound Russia getting some e-mails off Podesta with Russia hacking voting machines.

    OTOH, I also think we need to send a message to Russia to not interfere with our elections.  This time it was some e-mails.  Next time, it may very well be votes (they’ve been probing electoral rolls).  So I think Obama is right  But I also think it’s a double-win because it delegitimizes Trump.

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  3. It’s funny, because I find myself in the middle, again. On the one hand, I agree with what Michael Tracey said earlier today that this was the most benign interference w/ an election ever: release truthful emails from a campaign that were somewhat embarrassing to them.

    So you admit you have bought the nonsense about the Russian “interfering”? I find it real hard to believe that the people that told us Clinton remained both innocent of any crime and qualified to hold the highest office in the world – after that whole secret server to hide the pay-for-play douchebaggery affair was hacked by every bad element on the planet, and national security was really compromised, mind you – suddenly are worried about anyone hacking anything. Even if I was inclined to believe that we got these emails from the Russians, and I am far more convinced this was an inside job, done by a pissed off Bernie-bro  of all things. The fact is that the left could not be bothered with national security of any kind, as their defense of Hillary showed, but that they really are pissed that the leaks showed how corrupt and vile they are. so they concocted this Russian hack to both delegitimize and undermine Trump. That it hurts the US is of no concern at all to them. If they are not in charge they would rather burn the whole thing down anyway, as they have clearly shown us.

    And I also think the Democrats are playing this up for political benefit. 

    You think so? It is all about the end game with these people, and they care not what kind of damage they are causing to undermine the other side. If you will pardon a parody: the left is political. .

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  4. BTW, whenever we find out whomever leaked the DNC emails is, we should reward them with a service medal for doing the nation a great service. The real news worthy item here was not the hack of the DNC email server, the fact that the left wants to pretend that the election was hacked, the Obama retaliation, or even the turnaround by the idiots that suddenly want to restart the Cold War after they spent a lifetime sucking communist dick, but the fact that we got to see how crooked the DNC and the democrat party really are. That’s what these people really are pissed off about BTW: that the charade is done with.

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  5. What is your point CM? Hillary basically was let off by the FBI, not because they figured out she didn’t commit a crime, but because she had used the idiotic defense that she was too stupid to understand computer security, and thus was given a pass on a crime for which no other person ever avoided prison time and a permanent ban on any job where security clearances were needed. And yet, people like you still felt that was not disqualifying her from the job of POTUS (where security was paramount), in any way or form. But somehow, from this idiotic tweet (which likely is inaccurately reflecting what Trump said, if not outright manufacturing shit, if we go by the last few months of the left “reporting” on Trump) we need to conclude what? Trump is somehow computer illiterate, pro-Russian, anti-security, or whatever talking point the left has today to hide the fact they got exposed as criminals and crooks?

    And before you go there, remember that the DNC mail server was hacked by an idiotic phishing attack, the Clintons had a bathroom server that was used to hide pay-for-play Clinton foundation criminal activity which they defended after it was obvious the device was hacked by every nefarious organization on the planet to steal state secrets as a non-issue, and the stories about how technology stupid Hillary is abound, despite the fact that the DNC operatives with bylines have done their best to cover for this criminal.

    I can tell you this: Trump will neither have a bathroom server nor tolerate that from people in his admin, but you can focus on the fact that Trump didn’t play along with these idiotic DNC talking points about the suddenly discovered “red scare” – by the leftists that couldn’t get out of the way of sucking every collectivist tyrant’s dick in the last century, or be bothered by the corrupt democrats selling favors for personal gain at the expense of US tax payers and US security, of all things – and only continue to be propagated by people that want to undermine his presidency. Remember when Trump was a whacko that would start WW3 with Russia? How is that meme going these days?

    Keep it up man, the more of this stupidity we get from people like you the more others will just laugh as Trump undoes anything that is near and dear to the left. And if you want to see a relevant tweet, take a look at this.

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  6. Alex, the people who let Hillary off and the people claiming the DNC was hacked by the Russians are two different people: FBI and CIA.  I realize that you think of them as one big glop of Obama Conspirators, but the FBI and CIA disagree on aspects of this.

    There will be a Congressional investigation of this so we’ll see what comes out. But remember this is not an isolated incident. Russia has been engaging in cyberwarfare for years.

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  7. Alex, the people who let Hillary off and the people claiming the DNC was hacked by the Russians are two different people: FBI and CIA.

    First of all Hal, I was talking about the people that have been telling us how cool collectivism is/was, and defend the indefensible death of over a hundred million and the imprisonment of billions, starring from some time in or before 1917, until November 9th 2016, when suddenly they went apeshit about the red scare.  That these people now suddenly want us to believe the Russians hacked us and are a threat has more to do with deligitimizing Trump’s election than with them actually having a problem with the evils of collectivism/totalitarianism, and that fact needs to be reiterated every time these morons act up. Remember that many of us have been railing about the lackadaisical way this administration treated security in general and enemy hacking in specific until they needed a diversion from the revelation of the leaks that showed the DNC as a corrupt and despicable entity.

    I realize that you think of them as one big glop of Obama Conspirators, but the FBI and CIA disagree on aspects of this.

    Nice strawman, but let me play along and ask what you think I think they disagree on exactly? That Clinton violated national security regulations so she could have and use an unsecured communications hub for personal gain – a server that was hacked by people with clear agendas that hurt the US, while the Obama admin and Clintons spent years trying to hide the fact this use allowed enemy agencies to not just get information, but hack into other systems – was not a crime? Or that someone disclosed that the DNC is a corrupt and vile bunch of douchebags suddenly amounted to some massive national security breach? Because despite the deceitful attempt to pretend that a foreign power hacked the election (the voting machines), what we really have is the left pissed off that someone aired out their dirty laundry. I know the DNC operatives with bylines and the democrat political machine (I know, same thing) have been hard at work blurring the lines so idiots would believe that the Russians actually hacked voting machines, but nothing of the sort happened. As I repeatedly pointed out: whomever leaked these details about the corrupt nature of the DNC needs a medal for doing the American people a service and exposing the left for the crooks they are.

    Let me also say that if the CIA is behind that pile of unsubstantiated innuendo I just recently saw the Obama admin putting out as proof that the Russians had hacked the election, then they have fallen even lower than I thought they had already.

    But remember this is not an isolated incident. Russia has been engaging in cyberwarfare for years.

    PRECISELY!

    The point here is that the left had no problem aiding and abetting enemies and causes of enemies of the United States – for decades – in the name of the progressive movement in gereral, that the Obama administration turned a blind eye to security and foreign entities hacking us for information with real national security implications and couldn’t be bothered with anything their own people, the Russians, the Chinese, or the Iranians (just to name a few) did, in particular, until the democratic party got exposed for frauds and crooks. But as soon as they felt they lost an election because someone showed us what they were up to, they decided to use this ruse of national security and Russian hacking as a means to undermine Trump’s presidency. Even you should see how ironic it is that people that spent decades helping the enemies of liberty and an administration that went out of its way to cover for their ineptness and downright criminal lack of security concerns (after promising transparency of all things), suddenly going all Rambo on the issue. And as I said: all because someone pulled aside the curtain and gave people a real peak at how inept, corrupt, and downright despicable the left is….

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  8. Putin’s playing the game. By not expelling our personnel, he sets up Trump to rescind the sanctions.

    The Left has lost its fucking mind over Russia. The Heritage Foundation — which is very anti-Putin — tweeted out a video this morning saying that Obama’s actions were too-little too-late, that Putin only respects strength and consistency. And they’re accusing Heritage of treason.  They’re saying they’re siding with Putin.

    FFS, get it together, Leftards.  You’re making me defend the Heritage Foundation.

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  9. “Russia has been engaging in cyberwarfare for years”

    As has the USA, China, Israel, France Iran …  Any country out there that isn’t engaging in cyberwarfare?  It’s the new cool spy move.

    I agree that the Dems are likely doing this to delegitimize Trump’s victory as much as they can.  Obama may have a bit of a personal vendetta with the Russians due to Syria & Ukraine, but the sanctions and kicking out officials?  Now?  Seems more like a temper tantrum than good policy.

    “I also think we need to send a message to Russia to not interfere with our elections.  This time it was some e-mails.  Next time, it may very well be votes ”

    Anyone wanna bet on more Dems supporting voter ID laws?  I’m doubtful that I will hear that measure as a solution.

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  10. why do the Democrats have one rule for them, one rule for everyone else.  tell me the US has never interfered with elections in another country.  Supposedly O’s admin had sent monies to Israel to  prevent the current leader from getting elected.

    don’t acted too surprised if the president elect gets impeached when he rolls back the sanctions.

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  11. I’m confident this would be an utter non-issue had Hillary managed to win the White House.  The Dems don’t seem to really care about tampering with the election process as long as they come out on top. It’s only when they lose that they start pretending they have any integrity in this area.

    Or, perhaps, to paraphrase Otter from Animal House, “The Russians can’t tamper with our election process!  Only WE can tamper with our election process!”

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  12. I’m confident this would be an utter non-issue had Hillary managed to win the White House.  The Dems don’t seem to really care about tampering with the election process as long as they come out on top

    THIS!

    They couldn’t care less that Clinton’s server was hacked either. We were told it was all much ado about nothing. But when someone got their dirty laundry aired, then suddenly it became about the red scare, national security, stolen elections and so fucking on. It’s deflection, pure and simple.

    “LOOK OVER THERE AND IGNORE THE FACT WE ARE CORRUPT SHITS!”

    Democrat constituents must be delusional morons to fall for this shit. When McCain and Romney lost we pointed out the media bias and its effects – something that we now have been vindicated on after the DNC operatives dropped all charades of neutrality and where exposed colluding with the Clinton campaign during this election – allowed a mediocre-at-best guy with no redeemable qualities to win 2 elections, but we all agreed the candidates that we had to choose from where sub-par at best for not fighting the left on its own terms. Say what you want about Trump, but he did that, engage them with the same scorn and derision they do all others, and he won for not allowing the double standards to hamstring him. And man does it piss the left off that he did that.

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  13. What hasn’t been noted here is that the RNC was just as hacked as the DNC, but obviously Putin really really wanted Trump to win, so we didn’t get to see that treasure trove. But they have it, and so why wouldn’t they look to quietly threaten to use it over the next four years. They’d be idiots not to.

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  14. What hasn’t been noted here is that the RNC was just as hacked as the DNC, but obviously Putin really really wanted Trump to win, so we didn’t get to see that treasure trove.

    Or maybe, and this is just me guessing, the RNC is not as good at the cheating, lying, and criminal stuff the DNC does by rote, so there was no real news to release? Especially since if there was any, it might have been anti-Trump things done by the RNC that would have made Trump more popular. In this case, if it really was the Russians hacking them, I would suspect they would have wanted to release this to help their guy. That’s just me following the logic here. That or the RNC had better security (which makes them the more adult choice in today’s world IMO) and the claim they were hacked too, doesn’t bare out.

    In either case, I understand why the left wants to pretend that there was some nefarious reason for this “hacking attack” to only release DNC material: it allows them to both project and say the other side was just as bad (thus deflecting attention from the criminal activity released and impugning the character of the other side, regardless of if there was reason for that or not), if not worse, and to make the appeal to patriotism (talk about your fascist nationalist move) by claiming some enemy helped their manchurian candidate steal an election. Of course, so far there has been no proof provided, I mean real proof, and I find it quit laughable that the left now wants us to just accept the word from intelligence agencies that are more politicized than ever before in this country’s history when they always tell you these people can’t be trusted. Pointing out that they are twisting themselves into pretzels doesn’t do this thing any justice.

    Nah, come to think of it, the more plausible situation is that the DNC had a leak from within – that angry Bernie bro that supposedly was killed in a botched robbery – and now is trying to deflect attention from itself and deligitimize Trump by, of all things, an appeal to nationalism and invoking the red scare they spent the last century defending.

    Priceless.

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  15. There was no point releasing if the goal was to assist Trump, it could have been counter-productive at the time and also would have given up material that would be much valuable later on. I would assume both sides are as bad as each other, no reason to think otherwise, particular the shambles Trump caused in the Party (until he won, then everyone comes to Jesus).

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  16. There was no point releasing if the goal was to assist Trump, it could have been counter-productive at the time and also would have given up material that would be much valuable later on. I would assume both sides are as bad as each other, no reason to think otherwise, particular the shambles Trump caused in the Party (until he won, then everyone comes to Jesus).

    You missed the part where I pointed out that nobody really hack the RNC right?

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  17. What hasn’t been noted here is that the RNC was just as hacked as the DNC, but obviously Putin really really wanted Trump to win, so we didn’t get to see that treasure trove.

    Wrong.  The difference is that the RNC took cyber security seriously, and so their systems didn’t have the easily exploited vulnerabilities the DNC systems had. Nice spin, though, pretending that Putin got the goods from both Parties but only released the DNC stuff.  Because Trump, or whatever.

    At this point, claiming that Russia helped Trump is left-wing tin-foil-hat nonsense, but do keep it up, while mocking others for their conspiracy theories.

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