More Leftest Embarrassment

Before I get to my post, congrats on Trump winning Arizona.

And a big ,”Shame on you” to Obama for going against protocol and snubbing the president elect for the White House photo;

Some viewed this as disrespectful, embarrassing and a missed opportunity to help further calm the riots perpetrated by people apparently unwilling to accept of the election results.

Petulant and thin skinned to the very end, nicely done.

So, what do you make of a CEO of a large company threatening his employees, stating that if they voted for Trump they better get the hell out now?

Grubhub CEO tells pro-Trump employees they have ‘no place’ in company
Those who disagree with political screed told to ‘please reply to this email with your resignation’

Yep, another leftest who hates the First Amendment. Not only does this make this guy look like a fascist and a schmuk, but talk about corporate suicide. I guess he has not figured out that his customers may not take too kindly to his personal pogrom within the company. What a dope. But this is what we keep seeing time and time again, the intolerance from those that preach tolerance to others, the jack booted thuggery from those that pretend to champion causes for the great unwashed, the hypocrisy of the left in technicolor splendor.

Thank goodness all the other CEO’s can identify idiocy when they see it and slammed Maloney for being a dufus.

Well, it seems the only way to combat tyrannical CEO’s is to hit them financially, this is coming.

OT, but I saw Michael Moore speak on Morning Joe this morning, he actually made sense. He gets why Trump won and the dissatisfaction the average guy has with Obama and the establishment as a whole. Maybe there is hope for us to bridge the divide and actually talk to each other. I am encouraged.

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  1. stogy

    Matt Maloney CEO of Grubhub says his comments were misconstrued:

    I want to clarify that I did not ask for anyone to resign if they voted for Trump.

    And so I went and found his original e-mail, and loe and behold, it turns out he was right. Here’s the whole thing:

    I’m still trying to reconcile my own worldview with the overwhelming message that was delivered last night. Clearly there are a lot of people angry and scared as the antithesis of every modern presidential candidate won and will be our next president.  While demeaning, insulting and ridiculing minorities, immigrants and the physically/mentally disabled worked for Mr. Trump, I want to be clear that this behavior – and these views, have no place at Grubhub. Had he worked here, many of his comments would have resulted in his immediate termination.  We have worked for years cultivating a culture of support and inclusiveness. I firmly believe that we must bring together different perspectives to continue innovating – including all genders, races, ethnicities and sexual, cultural or ideological preferences. We are better, faster and stronger together.  Further I absolutely reject the nationalist, anti-immigrant and hateful politics of Donald Trump and will work to shield our community from this movement as best as I can. As we all try to understand what this vote means to us, I want to affirm to anyone on our team that is scared or feels personally exposed, that I and everyone else here at Grubhub will fight for your dignity and your right to make a better life for yourself and your family here in the United States.  If you do not agree with this statement then please reply to this email with your resignation because you have no place here. We do not tolerate hateful attitudes on our team.I want to repeat what Hillary said this morning, that the new administration deserves our open minds and a chance to lead, but never stop believing that the fight for what’s right is worth it. 

    Stay strong, Matt

    So it seems from the original e-mail that is people who don’t agree with the idea of being tolerant of others – consistent with the company policy – that should resign. Being a Trump supporter was not itself a reason given for resigning. Shame on the media for spinning a story to reflect poorly on Trump er a Trump protestor. Whether you agree with the statement or not, it isn’t being accurately portrayed in the media. It’s almost like… like there’s bias there. Can’t be though – only the lib media is biased. Phew, had myself worried for a second.

    And just by the way, my reading of the First Amendment is that it applies to limits on free speech by Congress, not to private corporations. So how would this apply?

     

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  2. louctiel

    Stogy,

    I missed the part of the email that covers the intolerance of Hillary, her supporters and the left.   Can you point that out to me?

    There is no reasonable reading of that letter other than Trump and supporters are intolerant and if you are a supporter, you have no business being here.  Resign.

    (And are you going to try to justify the idea that a vote for Trump is somehow not support?”)

    Also, if I am a known Trump supporter and work in this company, how do I know that my evaluations, ratings, raises and promotions are not hampered or enhanced because of my political views?   Good luck getting that past any court.

    As to the First Amendment issue, to some extent you are correct.  Yet the EEOC has made several rulings that speech in the workplace that may viewed as hatred of another is illegal.  Specifically, a recent case where a person charged racism because another person wore a hat with a Gadsen flag was rejected because of a lack of intent, but the EEOC ruled that the flag itself may be racist.  (Glad the Navy doesn’t know that.)   Also, if the government can’t reach into private companies, doesn’t that invalidate all sexual harassment laws?

    The First Amendment was set up to encourage the exchange of ideas.  Great protection has been given to political ideas and speech.  Where the First Amendment could come into play here is that the company is allowing one type of speech and not another.  Most courts have rejected that  stance.

    Either way, the CEO has the absolute right to make a stupid statement.  Employees and the public have the right to offer consequences to that statement.

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  3. louctiel

    Gee, so the White House Press Secretary who has lied repeatedly to cover the President and the administration says the op wasn’t cancelled.

    Yeah.  That works.

    Earnest is not a quality source.

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  4. CM

    So where us the quality source which confirms an arranged photo op was cancelled fir no other reason other than Obama being thin skinned. Or does ODS apply as a default, unless proven otherwise?

    Meanwhile, in contrast to the protests (how very dare they!!? Even though Trump advocated doing exactly that once) there are celebratory parades….
    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/305530-kkk-to-hold-parade-in-north-carolina-celebrating-trump

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  5. AlexInCT

    These idiots don’t get it, but more importantly, they refuse to get it. Reality be damned, they know how they want the narrative to be, and they are going to stick to selling it even if it kills them. Here is the latest on how the DNC operatives with bylines still want to pretend the problem was Trump and the people.

    Read the article and see the author still try to twist the facts into a pretzel to fit the narrative that the people were duped by Trump while the noble media just told the truth. Then read the comments. Epic take-down of a douche in an industry of douches, pretending they are not douches.

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  6. richtaylor365 *

    Stogy, his email seems pretty clear to me, his backpedaling notwithstanding. To summarize, Trump is yadda yadda yadda, I am against yadda  and here is why. If you disagree with what I say then you should resign. And you bolding certain parts of the email does not make the other parts magically disappear. He should not be bullying his employees for their political points of view, period. He got caught, the media caught him getting caught and the other CEO’s that slammed him caught him. OK course he is now scrambling to cover his butt.

    Anyway, it is good to have you back. Are you still in Tokyo? Fill us in. And your presence has had  a calming effect on CM. For the last year or so he was just a muppet, posting snark or the latest Slate drivel on how Republicans were all inbred mental defectives not deserving of a bullet,  then scurrying away. Now it seems like he is at least trying to engage. Hopefully you will have a positive effect on him.

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  7. louctiel

    CM,

    You own “US Magazine” source listed the Wall Street Journal as the source.

    Once again, Earnest or the WSJ?   Your choice.

    As for the protests, if people want to protest, that’s fine.  But when the protests turn violent or deny other people their rights, I would hope you would agree that is not acceptable on any level.

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  8. stogy

    There is no reasonable reading of that letter other than Trump and supporters are intolerant and if you are a supporter, you have no business being here.  Resign.

    Well the way I read it is: The values of intolerance worked for Trump. They have no place in this company. If you don’t agree, you should resign. I can’t see how you get to, “if you voted for Trump, you should resign” from that. So from my reading, it’s hardly a first amendment issue, but thanks for the clarification on the law as it applies to not congress. I wasn’t aware of that.

    Back in Japan for the moment, and considering my next steps. There’s a lot about the last couple of years I am not at liberty to share, but having witnessed human rights abuses first hand, and with a lot of friends still in direct danger, I am pretty shaken about the state of the world at the moment.

    I worry a lot about the direction the US is taking. There are plenty on the left who are celebrating Trump’s victory, saying that it will mean a clearing out of the corruption in the DNC. But I worry more about the strength of the institutions in the US – it’s less the state now than the direction that things are going. With the Republicans in such a strong position now in all three branches of government, and having gerrymandered most congressional districts to high hell, there is very little incentive for them to clean anything up. So as corrupt as the Republicans are now, they are likely to be much more so in four or eight or twelve years time…

    I would actually like to see a much more bipartisan approach to politics from both the left and the right – at least for a while – but instead the US is jumping on a bullet train in the opposite direction.

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  9. CM

    Once again, Earnest or the WSJ?   Your choice.

    WSJ article is behind a paywall so I can’t see it (and whether it’s been updated as the US Magazine one was). Perhaps you or someone else has access?

    Not having a photo would be inconsistent with everything else he’s done since the result. I don’t think it’s unfair to require independent and preferably multiple accounts before attaching it the rabid anti-Obama narrative. I know Rich and Alex haven’t the slightest interest in such standards but I’m assuming there are still some here that might. And yes, the same standards or verification should apply to anyone.

    As for the protests, if people want to protest, that’s fine.  But when the protests turn violent or deny other people their rights, I would hope you would agree that is not acceptable on any level.

    Absolutely, 100%. I understand the fear (there have never been such threats made by an incoming President) but violence/rioting is never the answer. It’s entirely counter-productive.

    As for the email, reads as angry and a little threatening but certainly isn’t doing what Rich claimed – telling people if they voted for Trump they need to leave. It clearly didn’t say that all, it was about the culture of the business. Of course it’s telling that we’re not even arguing about whether the behavior of Trump is arguable. Which continues to just be amazing in itself.

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  10. CM

    The only problem, as Independent Journal Review’s White House Correspondent Kate Bennett explained, is that this information is “definitely false.”

    As Bennett noted, that photo op had never been included in the White House’s official daily guidance, so there was never anything to ‘cancel’ in the first place.

    http://ijr.com/2016/11/733663-media-is-claiming-that-obama-canceled-his-photo-op-with-the-trumps-about-that/

    Also, surely if Obama was everything Rich claims then the meeting would have lasted the scheduled 10-15 minutes and not blow out to nearly 2 hours.

    But I’m sure this means I’m sucking Obama’s cock again. ODS to the bitter end (and, I’m willing to bet, beyond)

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  11. stogy

    As for the protests, if people want to protest, that’s fine.  But when the protests turn violent or deny other people their rights, I would hope you would agree that is not acceptable on any level.

    I had an e-mail from a friend in New York overnight saying that she is joining the “Not my president” protests not because she doesn’t accept the result, but she wants it on record that she won’t accept changes to laws or language that negatively affects minority groups.

    It seems like a very reasonable position to me.

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  12. richtaylor365 *

    Well the way I read it is: The values of intolerance worked for Trump. They have no place in this company. If you don’t agree, you should resign.

    Stogy, you just dug your own grave. Trump believes A, if you voted for Trump you must believe A as well, you have no place in this company and should resign. That is the only rational interpretation.

    And his day late and a dollar short mea culpa was designed to avoid the avalanche of lawsuits for a hostile work environment.

    Locteil mentioned the bad work evaluations, it is worse than that. You got a Trump bumper sticker on your car or a Trump coffee mug? Your position at this firm is not longer tenable. And now that they know their boss is a raving ideologue, what about the next election? Better keep your trap shut, stay off the right leaning websites at work, and tow the party (democrat party) line, or you are toast.

    If only the roles were reversed, I can here the screeching and howling already.

     but instead the US is jumping on a bullet train in the opposite direction.

    Well, not quite. Not having super majorities in both houses (like Obama had) deft democrats can still derail any nonsense Trump wants to push. But sadly, politics being what they are at this stage, the comity will be short lived and the dems will fight EVERYTHING Trumps puts in front of them. Personally, I would like him to adopt the Obama approach, “I won, so eat it”. He can’t literally lock them out of the room (again, like Obama did) because of the numbers, but he should realize (thankfully, I think he does) that the other side will do nothing to help him, no matter what he does.

     

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  13. stogy

    Stogy, you just dug your own grave. Trump believes A, if you voted for Trump you must believe A as well, you have no place in this company and should resign. That is the only rational interpretation.

    I don’t think so. To say so means agreeing with the Hitler was a vegetarian fallacy. Not everyone who voted for Trump shares his values – something that has become increasingly clear since the election. You can easily have voted for Trump without supporting his statements on Mexicans or his mimicry of a person with a disability. The CEO made it abundantly clear that these are values that have no place in his company. I think your argument on this is kinda weak.

    deft democrats can still derail any nonsense Trump wants to push

    It is going to be interesting. So far he seems to be backtracking on one election promise a day: today it looked like he may not axe all of Obamacare. He may yet turn out to be a Dem light, in which case, he may get more bipartisan support than he was expecting.

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  14. richtaylor365 *

    Re: the WSJ article, here it is (hopefully you will get the whole thing);

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-obama-set-to-begin-transition-1478787730

    Pertinent part;

     The Obamas didn’t do a photo-op featuring the current and future first couples outside the south entrance of the White House, as is customary. In his first visit to the White House after the 2008 election, the Obamas posed for the cameras alongside President George W. Bush and first lady Laura Bush

    I think your argument on this is kinda weak.

    So weak that he felt the need to clarify afterwards , I guess it could not stand on it’s own.

    So weak that other tech CEO’s felt the need to come out with their own statements, “We don’t stand with that guy”.

    So weak that the twitter world has exploded with calls to fight this kind of bullying by not using his business.

    When you paint someone with broad negative strokes, anyone supporting that guy by default gets tagged with the same strokes, that is the essence of the threat and that is why it was so menacing for any employee that supported Trump.

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  15. louctiel

    The values of intolerance worked for Trump.

    Once again, the values of Trump are being addressed and not the values of intolerance from Hillary.  That’s the point.  Both candidates and supporters were intolerant of people and other points of view yet this company only threatened the views of those who supported Trump.

    I would actually like to see a much more bipartisan approach to politics from both the left and the right – at least for a while – but instead the US is jumping on a bullet train in the opposite direction.

    Did  you have these same feelings in 2009 when the Democrats controlled the Houses, Senate and the Presidency?

    It seems like a very reasonable position to me.

    Did your friend say the same thing when bakers had their rights trampled upon?  Did your friend say anything about the deeply flawed premise of :”disparate impact” that was a key element of DOJ prosecutions?  Did your friend say anything about the “dear friend” letter which basically stripped males of the right to due process on campuses?  Did your friend say anything about ending set asides in government contracts?

    The point is that people who say “I won’t support anything that affects minorities” are really saying “we want certain groups to have more rights than others.”

    I’m all for equality and  the protection of the rights of everyone.  But that is not what many on the left want.

    If your friend says Trump is not her president, that is certainly her right just as many on the right claimed that Obama was not their president.   It was stupid when the right did it and it is stupid when the left does it.

     

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  16. louctiel

    As for the email, reads as angry and a little threatening but certainly isn’t doing what Rich claimed – telling people if they voted for Trump they need to leave.

    Of course it is.  That is why it has raised the cankers of so many people.  The plain reading of the letter is a threat.  It is clear that the company is saying that Trump supporters are not welcome.

    It clearly didn’t say that all, it was about the culture of the business.

    So why not address the intolerance of Hillary supporters?

    If the email had said “after a tough election we need to make sure that we trust each other and work together for a better company,” you might have a point.  But it didn’t say that.  It singled out one group and called them intolerant and not welcome.

    Of course it’s telling that we’re not even arguing about whether the behavior of Trump is arguable. Which continues to just be amazing in itself.

    I didn’t realize that Trump wrote the letter.  Do you have a source for that?  Oh wait.  He didn’t.

    Nice try at a deflection though.

    It failed.

     

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  17. stogy

    Once again, the values of Trump are being addressed and not the values of intolerance from Hillary.

    Hillary lost the election, at least in the electoral college. Thus I don’t see any real need to continue the conversation. But sure, if you like, she said stupid stuff (like “basket of deplorables”). Some of her supporters are completely nuts, and even now doing plenty of finger-pointing and arm waving about how intolerance has won. I would also say that mockery of the grassroots right throughout the campaign proved self-defeating.

     

    But this is mistake that the right is now also making, rather than reflecting on underlying values that led people to make their political choices, relationships are not being improved by invective and triumphalism from the right. Like calling Dems stupid when at its most fundamental, what they really wanted was to defend the right to marriage equality, protect the a river from mercury poisoning, or ensure access to healthcare (and no, I don’t think Obamacare was the answer to the problems in the health sector).

     

    And Rich,

    So weak that other tech CEO’s felt the need to come out with their own statements, “We don’t stand with that guy”.

    It’s not clear to me whether they were responding to his original e-mail or to the widespread misreporting of it. Of course he needed clarify – if you look at the clarification, he certainly didn’t actually backtrack on his original statement…

    I think it is fair to say that the media certainly did misrepresent his position by saying that he told Trump voters to resign.

     

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  18. louctiel

    Thus I don’t see any real need to continue the conversation.

    You mean you don’t see the hypocrisy of the left screaming about the intolerance of Trump and then avoiding their own intolerance?  You don’t see any value in that conversation?  None at all?

    Hillary lost the election, at least in the electoral college.

    First, without the electoral college there would be no United States.

    Secondly, remember back a few scant years ago when after being elected, Obama and the Democrats hauled out the mantra of “elections have consequences?”  Or perhaps you might remember Obama telling a group of Republican legislators who were addressing concerns and seeking compromises “I won.”  Or maybe you don’t remember the statement of Obama that Republicans can “come along for the ride, but they have to sit in the back of the bus.”  (Or alternatively, “they have to stand in the back of the queue.”)

    So please tell me why the Republicans have to be gracious and “reach across the aisle?”  Please explain to the rest of us why the Democrats got a pass on their attitudes and the Republicans are somehow despicable humans for some people exhibiting the same attributes?

    I have been around for awhile and I don’t remember any other election where protests and violence occurred – certainly not on the scale we are seeing here from the left.

    It just seems to many people that the left has the attitude of “when we win, we get to tell you what to do.  When we lose, you have to listen to what we tell you to do an do it.”

    Both candidates were deeply flawed, in my opinion.  Despicable even.  But it appears that many people felt that Hillary was more despicable than Trump.  The fact that the losing party doesn’t address that and their own racism and sexism means we can never move forward and unite as a country.

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  19. louctiel

    I think it is fair to say that the media certainly did misrepresent his position by saying that he told Trump voters to resign.

    Once again, no.  He labels the message of Trump and in condemning it, he says “if you don’t agree with that, resign.”

    If you don’t agree with all the things he said about Trump, reply to the email with your resignation.

    Once again, where is the tolerance he claims he wants in his company?

    There is tolerance only for the idea that he puts forth – including his position on Trump.  All others are not welcome.

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  20. CM

    Rich it has been confirmed that there was nothing to cancel. Nothing in your WSJ paragraph says anything was scheduled or cancelled. There is nothing to demonstrate that it won’t happen, let alone that it won’t because Obama refuses to. Will you be extending this absence of the benefit of the doubt to Trump? (I think I know the answer).

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  21. louctiel

    CM,

    It makes it very difficult to discuss things with you when you won’t read or see what is there.

    Being an ostrich is no way to go around in life.

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  22. louctiel

    Stogy,

    It is impossible to read the email and the intent of the email as you do.

    From the Chicago Tribune:

    In a tweet that was later deleted, Maloney added: “To be clear, GrubHub does not tolerate hate and we are proud of all our employees – even those who voted for Trump.”

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/bluesky/originals/ct-matt-maloney-grubhub-email-resign-bsi-20161110-story.html

    Now, go ahead and change one small classification in the tweet.  Change “those who voted for Trump” to “women.”

    That leaves:

    “To be clear, GrubHub does not tolerate hate and we are proud of all our employees – even women.”

    The left and the right would be screaming about that and rightfully so.

    But with Trump voters and supporters, well, the whole thing is “misunderstood.”

    Yeah.

    Right.

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  23. AlexInCT

    If only the roles were reversed, I can here the screeching and howling already.

    If it wasn’t for double standards… you know the drill.

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  24. AlexInCT

    I would actually like to see a much more bipartisan approach to politics from both the left and the right – at least for a while – but instead the US is jumping on a bullet train in the opposite direction.

    Did  you have these same feelings in 2009 when the Democrats controlled the Houses, Senate and the Presidency?

    That was trick question right? Cause the answer is damned obviously no. They told us repeatedly they won and would do what they wanted. Enter Obamacare and trillions of dollars paid out to cronies, operatives, lobbyists, and dnc campaign coffers courtesy of the US tax payer (those of us that actually work).

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