Clinton Faints

So some excitement this weekend:

Hillary Clinton has pneumonia, her doctor said Sunday, hours after the Democratic nominee stumbled and exited a 9/11 commemoration ceremony early.

“Stumbled”. Fainted would be a more apt description.

The incident seems certain to prompt further scrutiny of Clinton’s health and her campaign’s transparency — though Republican rival Donald Trump was uncharacteristically silent throughout a solemn day marking the 15th anniversary of the September 11 attacks.

I can only assume this is because Kellyanne Conway seized his phone and locked herself in a vault.

Clinton, 68, was diagnosed on Friday with pneumonia, and “was put on antibiotics, and advised to rest and modify her schedule,” Dr. Lisa Bardack said in a statement.

“While at this morning’s event, she became overheated and dehydrated. I have just examined her and she is now re-hydrated and recovering nicely,” said Bardack, chairman of internal medicine at the Mount Kisco Medical Group.

Pneumonia can vary from “walking pneumonia” to a deathly illness. This explanation from the Clinton camp comports with what we saw yesterday as well as her coughing fit from a week earlier. Despite my distaste for Clinton, I hope she recovers well. Pneumonia, even a “minor” case, is scary business

A few thoughts on the wider issue of candidates’ health:

First, the health of the candidates is a perfectly legitimate concern. Clinton is 68, soon to turn 69. Trump is 70. Either would be the oldest President in American history and both are at an age where health can decline very rapidly, especially under the massive pressure of the Presidency.

The conspiracy theories about Clinton have been silly, but the “how dare you!” response of the press to those questions has been even more ridiculous. And it blew up in the media’s face this weekend. There was a hilarious period of time where the Clinton supporters were insisting that the mild temperatures and low humidity in New York were inferno conditions that would make even the most rugged human pass out. This was before the pneumonia was revealed and they decided that Clinton continuing to campaign while sick showed superhuman strength and vigor.

The health of a Presidential candidate is always a legitimate issue. It was an issue when Tsongas was concealing lymphoma back in ’92. It was an issue with Dole. It was an issue with McCain, specially given his tin dingbat of a running mate. It’s an issue this year. Let’s not pretend it isn’t.

(There’s a part of me that thinks that, in both cases, poor health would almost be a reason to vote for them since Pence and Kaine would make much better Presidents than Clinton or Trump. But the larger concern is a President incapacitated or making poor decisions due to health.)

Second, the paranoia and secrecy of the Clinton camp came home to roost. The Clintons tend to be secretive and untruthful, even when honesty and openness would suit them better. Revealing Clinton’s pneumonia diagnosis on Friday or Saturday would have made Trump’s followers crow, but it would have quickly abated as everyone else just wished her a full recovery. Having it crop up this way was the worst possible combination of circumstances.

Third, as much as the Trumpaloos are preening, they are in a glass house on this one. Trump has been completely opaque about his medical history, releasing a crazy note from a California quack and claiming to be in perfect health. Clinton, for all her concealment, release a more detailed note addressing the hematoma from her fall of a few years ago and revealing her hypothyroidism.

The gripping hand here is that it would be really hard for either of these candidates to conceal a major health issue. The schedule demanded of a Presidential candidate is absolutely brutal. During the campaign, they never get a day off and they meet with donors, media or voters all day long (and thus are constantly exposed to pathogens). The idea that Hillary Clinton is being carried to the finish line by the Secret Service or that Trump is concealing cancer is ridiculous.

However … I do think healthcare disclosure remains important. Both candidates should have their medical records reviewed by an independent physician (or three of them). But neither will do it of course since Clinton is paranoid and Trump is consumed with his own vanity and won’t reveal anything. So maybe this is something, like the release of tax returns, we’re going to have to mandate.

5 comments:

  1. Aussiesmurf

    I know that, as a lefty, I’m often seen as a contrarian but….I pretty much agree with all of this.

     

    (except the party about Kaine being a better President than H Clinton – but that’s an argument for another day).

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  2. AlexInCT

    I am flabbergasted that people are acting as if this is the first time that one of the Clintons has been caught in a horrible lie for personal gain. Who could have thunk that Hillary and democrats in general – because there is no way that there were a ton of democrats that knew this –   would lie about the fact that she likely has some serious medical condition (and this pneumonia thing is another big lie, it is something else, and something much worse). Now they are going to rig this in their favor since Hillary sucks ass. Banana republic we are..

    And as I have repeatedly said: Charles Manson would make a better and less dangerous president than Lying Hillary Clinton, so Kaine is definitely a step up for anyone that isn’t into loving the crooks and their scorched earth tactics.

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  3. Aussiesmurf

    Alright, Alex.

    Sentence 1 – What is the lie?  That she has pneumonia?

    Sentence 2 – Firstly, the clause “because there is no way that there were a ton of democrats that knew this” doesn’t fit with the remainder of your rambling sentence.  In any event, you seem very certain that Secretary Clinton suffers from a serious medical condition that is worse than pneumonia.  Do tell.  Show your work.

    Sentence 3 – Who is ‘they’?  What is the ‘this’ that ‘they’ are going to rig?

    Sentence 4 – What does the medical condition of one candidate have to do with being a ‘banana republic’?

    Sentence 5 – I assume this is a clumsy attempt at hyperbole, and you don’t actually think that a paranoid schizophrenic serial killer with ongoing delusions would actually make a better president than an intelligent, well-educated, successful Senator and Secretary of State.

    But then, with you Alex, you never know.

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  4. AlexInCT

    Sentence 1 – What is the lie?  That she has pneumonia?

    No Aussie. The lie was that she was in perfect health and that it was a vast right wing conspiracy attacking her when they pointed out she was showing signs of something serious. Hillary’s people, the media, and the left attacked the people that pointed out something might be wrong there. When the shit finally hit the fan – and mark my words, we will eventually find out that the claim she has pneumonia is either not the whole truth or also fabricated to cover up something worse – her people decided it was more important to hide the facts from the American public than to risk getting Clinton killed for lack of medical help.

    Sentence 2 – Firstly, the clause “because there is no way that there were a ton of democrats that knew this” doesn’t fit with the remainder of your rambling sentence. 

    How about they fit the facts unfolding? Her people avoided the ER because they preferred to hide she was sick than risk exposure that they had lied? Or the immediate and well prepared contingency plan to replace her that they had ready not even an hour after the attack. Going by the record of the last 8 years these morons can’t even replace a light bulb without destroying a building, and now they suddenly turned into the model of efficiency? Only a tool buys this crap.

    Sentence 3 – Who is ‘they’?  What is the ‘this’ that ‘they’ are going to rig?

    The they is the same people that help democrats steal elections all over the place. And what they are going to rig it this election. They will now find a way to replace Hillary last minute because they realized she is going to lose the election, and the fact that this is now no longer hidden finally gives them the out to dump her ass.

    Sentence 4 – What does the medical condition of one candidate have to do with being a ‘banana republic’?

    Maybe you are this stupid. The medical condition has nothing to do with the banana republic. It is the lying, cheating, abuse of power,  system of laws that puts connected democrats above the law, and a corrupt media that helps them get away with it, especially with the horrible abuses of power and downright criminal behavior of the last 8 years, and likely to double if Hillary where to win, and keep ramping up as long as she was in office, that make this a banana republic.

    But then again. You knew that already even if you might want to pretend otherwise.

    Sentence 5 – I assume this is a clumsy attempt at hyperbole, and you don’t actually think that a paranoid schizophrenic serial killer with ongoing delusions would actually make a better president than an intelligent, well-educated, successful Senator and Secretary of State.

    No it is not hyperbole of any kind. I am convinced, based on her actions and the things that have happened in the past decade, that Manson, for all his evil and craziness, is a less evil and contemptible person than Hillary, and far less likely to cause the harm Clinton will because she is a petty, vindictive, and horrible person.

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  5. CM

    Standard fare for Alex. There is no conspiracy he won’t go with.

    “they realized she is going to lose the election” – based on what, some new version of ‘unskewed polls’? Please let me know so I can be entertained all over again!

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