Another Day, Another Trumpocalypse

If there is a difference between the campaign Trump is running and one designed to destroy the GOP and give the Democrats enough numbers to pass their dream agenda, I have yet to see it.

Assuming, for the moment, that Trump is earnestly trying to win this thing, it’s a good illustration of the difference between someone saying, “Hey, I should be President!” and actually being President. Being President means watching what you say because politics is stupid but real. It means compromising with people who don’t agree with you 100% and want some of the credit for themselves. It means cobbling together coalitions. And yes, it means calling up rich people and raising metric tons of money.

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  1. CM

    It’s good to see that going out of your way be an arsehole and to alienate large groups of voters (AKA being”politically incorrect”) doesn’t attract donors.

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  2. AlexInCT

    If anything, a future president that isn’t beholden to big money, for me, is a huge bonus. I used to think Trump was a buffoon and a retard, but the harder the media and the left work to make him look bad, in their usual bullshit frame of reference, the more appealing and valuable Trump beating them seems to become for me. And I am not alone there, it seems.

    Please keep up the anti-Trump attacks. Please keep pushing this ludicrous and totally biased and left-ward skewed PC agenda as the bar you want your crook to live by. I am seeing a landslide victory in the works for Trump in November with this playbook. It’s like watching morons play checkers against someone playing chess.

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  3. Hal_10000 *

    t’s good to see that going out of your way be an arsehole and to alienate large groups of voters (AKA being”politically incorrect”) doesn’t attract donors.

    It’s not that.  It’s that Trump doesn’t want to do it.  He think free media exposure is going to bring him the White House. As I said, being President is actually hard and you have to do a lot of stuff you don’t want to do. Trump doesn’t think that rule applies to him.

    And excellent satire of Trump supporter, Alex.

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  4. Section8

    So let’s see Trump funds mostly himself and that is bad because he needs to raise big money (even though Alex is absolutely right that everyone bitches about big money), but then uses that money (mostly or all his own) by efficiently by using his own resources then that’s bad. Hal you sound pathetically desperate. Maybe Trump should take tips from you regarding business like running a simple blog into the ground. Maybe he should buy an ad to put in your book and not use his resources? How’s that going for you? I bet if I pick a number between 1 and 10 I’d be within 5 books sold, but hey you have it all down.

     

    Here’s the deal. Like Trump or not, where’s your credibility? You argue you’re a conservative but in reality are nothing more than someone who supports modest government growth over rapid growth.  You pretend you hate the overdone PC in this country until it’s convenient to support it. You argue against Obamacare but will never support a political environment to remove it. You talk of the GOP getting things back but are against it and complained about every single candidate of the 16 in the debates. Only when Rubio didn’t have a shot did you start possibly warming up to him. It’s all bullshit from you and always will be. If it wasn’t Trump to bitch about, it would have been any of the others if they were in front right now. You’re pushing Johnson these days but were glad he didn’t have a shot in 2012? Why? That sounds silly what’s changed about Johnson?  If Johnson had a shot now you’d be running for the hills because that’s what you do.

     

    Sorry but promoting modest government growth especially as it has expanded during the decades is not conservative.  You’re completely oblivious to why people are upset these days. It goes way back before 2010, 2008 and and earlier. Everyone, like you, is aware of the Bush fuckups and lack of government reduction, hence the support for the Tea Party. The Tea Party came about partly because Obama but a lot of it was resentment for Bush II of the Goober Dynasty and the left over Goober GOP establishment that no one wants. Speaking of which Bush III of the Goober Dynasty raised millions how did that go for him? No, people are tired of the status quo they are tired of settling for the “We slowed government a bit so be happy so just be happy asshole” approach, they are tired of being told they need to find new ways to apologies for not apologizing fast enough. They are tired of what people like you really stand for which is more of this. REAL CONSERVATIVES want reduced government and a secure border (which is one of the few jobs the Fed should be doing) and the GOP was supposed to do which you are completely clueless to understand. Will Trump bring smaller government probably not, but we know for certain your approach never will it will just bring more of the same shit sandwich. So it’s time to throw one group out and if Trump fucks up he can go too.  It’s not about loving Trump it’s about having enough of the bullshitters.

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  5. AlexInCT

    It’s not about loving Trump it’s about having enough of the bullshitters.

    And crooks that constantly pretend only other people than them are crooks, when they are the most vile sort of crooks..

    That’s it for me. I went from voting for the candidate I wanted (Reagan) to voting against the ones I didn’t want (everyone after), to anyone not connected to the political machine. I would vote for fucking Manson right now over someone in the political establishment. At least he isn’t pretending to care while he lines up to ass rape me.

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  6. Hal_10000 *

    So let’s see Trump funds mostly himself and that is bad because he needs to raise big money (even though Alex is absolutely right that everyone bitches about big money), but then uses that money (mostly or all his own) by efficiently by using his own resources then that’s bad

    Are you just trolling? He isn’t funding himself. He loaned money to his campaign and what meager funds he’s raising is to pay himself back and funnel money to his own business. This isn’t a campaign; it’s a grift. If Trump were as rich as he says he is, he could fund himself. But he’s not, because he can’t or is trying to lose. Ads cost money. Get out the vote efforts cost money. Ground game costs money. You can’t get the money out of politics by unilaterally disarming.

    And seriously? You’re going to attack my credibility by comparing to Trump who has reversed every single position he’s ever held, sometimes in the course of one sentence? Tell me what Trump believes. Tell me what he stands for. You can’t because he doesn’t stand for anything other than himself. And you have not articulated a reason for supporting — or indeed a reason for saying anything that you say on this blog — other than “FUK DA ELITES LOL!”.

    So your philosophy is fuck the country as long as people you don’t like are fucked as well. Gotchya.

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  7. Hal_10000 *

    Maybe Trump should take tips from you regarding business like running a simple blog into the ground. 

    And you just show up now and then and post spittle-flecked factually-challenged incoherent drivel in the comments.  What does that say about you?

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  8. ilovecress

    All known political science says that numbers like this are a predictor of a huge defeat. The correlation between spending and winning is huge. For there to be such a huge gap is worrying for the GOP. Yeah it’s great that he won’t be beholden to big money donors (although, are we saying that Trump has never called in a favour throughout his business career) – but the fact of the matter is that winning an election costs money, and he doesn’t have any.

    But.

    He wasn’t meant to be able to beat Jeb without any money. He wasn’t meant to be able to get the nomination without a significant spend. So there is a bit of an ‘all bets are off’ angle to this too. Twitter is free.

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  9. Section8

    “If Trump were as rich as he says he is, he could fund himself. But he’s not, because he can’t or is trying to lose.”

    So which one is it? Should he fund it all himself or raise money? And why the hell would he want to lose? Just clue me in on the conspiracy where that would benefit him. I mean since you like to call any criticism of the left by others here a claim of conspiracy, well, you have a whopper here. And is this the latest new rule to be pulled out of thin air? So what, if he’s rich that means he has to fund every penny of it on his own? So far he’s funded most of it. Grifting is only grifting if he’s making a profit. Show me in that article where that’s even close.

    So as far as raising funds you said in the comments…

    “It’s that Trump doesn’t want to do it.  He think free media exposure is going to bring him the White House.”

    So does he want to raise money? If he does then it must be to make a profit right? If he doesn’t then he should raise money because he’s a poor planner right? But then that would be wrong too correct? Should he shouldn’t he? Who is all over the place even in the same thread? I’m guessing any way it goes though it will be the wrong way for you.

    Look, I don’t give a shit whether you like Trump or not. My issue with you isn’t even Trump and I’ve pointed that out well before Trump even became a factor. As I’ve said I’ve been here since you and probably well before. For the first few years I thought you were great. You can go back and see for yourself. I had no issue with you pointing out how inept Bush and his drunken band of shopaholics were in jacking up the debt and putting a bad name on the ideals of the free market. Your posts against government expansion were great in the early days of Obama. But then the pattern of the real Hal emerged. One that talks big about smaller government but back pedals in practice EVERY TIME and has for years. One that talks big about how ridiculous the PC has become but then joins in on the hand slaps of anyone who doesn’t tread carefully, because the best offense is to always be in apology mode. Hell, you’ll even parrot every leftist narrative in support. I mean that behavior couldn’t possibly enable the snowball effect of making things even worse and having to tread even more carefully around the PC minefield. Best of all we have a Hal that’s now propping up the same old GOP people that were weak in the first place, and Hal would never support giving full control back to these guys to unwind the ever growing federal government (even though he’s now bitching Trump has blown that chance), but now Hal says heck of a job, Brownie to the good ole GOP establishment he now defends but hates but likes but hates but…. A Hal that’s only doing so since it’s convenient at the moment. So yeah this gets old and tired. Such back and forth creates a credibility factor whether you like it or not.

    “And you just show up now and then and post spittle-flecked factually-challenged incoherent drivel in the comments.  What does that say about you?”

    You’re right most of the conservatives don’t even show up at all. I’m sure that’s everyone else’s fault though. Hey but maybe everyone left because I show up every now and then with spittle and doo-doo talk. I guess it just says I’m an idiot for showing up at all and all the smart conservatives bailed on you and your buddy you let ride roughshod around here with endless circles of what the definition of is is in every post. If you want to be a center leftist or a bullshitter or whatever, then be one that’s fine. But as long as you’re going to do it under the banner of “right-thinking” and “intellectual” conservatism well then you’re a dishonest fraud and I’ll be around every now and then to point that out. My comments about you have little if any to do with Trump. It’s your perpetual circle of garbage that oscillates between phony calls of “we need smaller government!”, and your true belief of “whoa wait a minute they can’t do that!”. That has going on for years. You know that.

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  10. Hal_10000 *

    He wasn’t meant to be able to beat Jeb without any money. He wasn’t meant to be able to get the nomination without a significant spend. So there is a bit of an ‘all bets are off’ angle to this too. Twitter is free

    I agree.  I have a post cooking about why this isn’t over and why Trump could still win.  The Scott Walker recalls, when he was outspent enormously, demonstrates that the effect of money on politics is not nearly as yuge as people think.  That having been said, it does exist and you to spend money to win.  In the end, the media are unreliable vehicle.  You need to get your message out AND you need to organize the ground game to get people to the polls.

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  11. AlexInCT

    Heh!

    Of course, there is no chance he can outraise the crook he is running against, when every country with hostile intentions towards the US would rather poney up cash for her campaign so when she wins they can balckmail her and make us their bicth…

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