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  1. AlexInCT *

    Ah I see how you moved those goal posts there Hal. Fancy footwork but still bullshit. Note that at no point does the cartoon say that these are things that only scientists said, but things the people that claim to own the science have said.

    So I will simply dismiss your bullshit attempt to cover for these fraudsters by linking this  Huffington Post article where Hanson warns of doom. Google, even though it tries its damnedest to filter positive results for AGW cultists, helps to show you examples of where your vaunted scientists, including those at the ICPP, have made all these doomsday predictions. I am pretty sure Hansen “claims” (that is in quotes because IMO he has been one of the people to harm the scientific principle and science the most) he is a scientist, and I am also pretty sure he made these predictions, so pray tell, WTF where you talking about?

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  2. CM

    Ah I see how you moved those goal posts there Hal. Fancy footwork but still bullshit. Note that at no point does the cartoon say that these are things that only scientists said, but things the people that claim to own the science have said.

    Woeful, Alex. It clearly says ‘By Scientists’. More comprehension problems. You’re really on a roll.

     

    I am also pretty sure 

    The whole basis of your denial. Absolutely no evidence, ever. Just more of the same nonsense over and over and over again.

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  3. Technomad

    I don’t deny we’ve been on a warming trend.  We’ve been coming out of the “Little Ice Age” since about the middle 1800s or so.  But this Chicken Little panic is whipped up by the ecofreaks to try to frighten everybody into doing what they want.

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  4. AlexInCT *

    Woeful, Alex. It clearly says ‘By Scientists’. More comprehension problems. You’re really on a roll.

    Actually CM, the lack of comprehension came from you. I don’t consider anyone that pisses all over the scientific process, makes up data and models that produce garbage results bearing no resemblance on reality, and/or and adopts insane leftist political agendas as scientists. That basically discredits the entire AGW crowd of cultists you would think of as scientists. There is no consensus in science: there are the facts and then there are shysters with their agendas (and the left is dominated by these).

    But I am not surprised you would miss that, because to you science is anything that promotes the left’s totalitarian agenda, while I see it a sacred responsibility by those that pursue the real hard fields to safe guard real and true knowledge. shorter this: you are into socialized science, while I am into facts. in one case you cry consensus and demand people accept what you believe, in the other you expect people that make a scientific claim to back it u with real data, real models, and real results anyone can reproduce, leading to sound science. there has been absolutely noen of that in the whole AGW cult affair.

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  5. CM

    But this Chicken Little panic is whipped up by the ecofreaks to try to frighten everybody into doing what they want.

    So then just listen to the scientists – what are they saying?

    I don’t consider anyone that pisses all over the scientific process, makes up data and models that produce garbage results bearing no resemblance on reality, and/or and adopts insane leftist political agendas as scientists.

    Except that you keep making these bold claims but can never back it up with, you know, any evidence (that thing you apparently hold most sacred). Never, ever. So why would anyone believe you? The weight of evidence is overwhelmingly against you and yet you somehow think just claiming fraud and conspiracy is sufficient? It’s bizarre.

    while I see it a sacred responsibility by those that pursue the real hard fields to safe guard real and true knowledge

    Nonsense – as evidenced time and time again you’ll happily throw it all under a bus based on nothing. If you cared you wouldn’t throw vague accusations and insinuations around willy-nilly.

    you are into socialized science, while I am into facts

    Hahaha that hilarious given that you never have a single fact when you involve yourself in this topic. . What on earth is “socialized science”? Science is science, plain and simple. It either stands or it doesn’t (immediately or over time).

    in one case you cry consensus and demand people accept what you believe

    How do I “cry consensus”? Please elaborate. Do you mean where I point out the overwhelming agreement between professionals who know what they are talking about?

    there has been absolutely noen of that in the whole AGW cult affair.

    Again, if only you could demonstrate even half a percent of what you claim.

    This is the point where you always run away.

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  6. AlexInCT *

    So then just listen to the scientists – what are they saying?

    Real scientists are saying that scientific consensus doesn’t exist in science. They also point out that what has been done by the people claiming to do science to push the totalitarian agenda of the left through another apocalyptic cult, isn’t science.

    In the field of science, doctoring or outright creating data, while destroying any real data you might have to boot, creating models that produce the doom results you want, regardless of what input is used or what time period it is applied against, and then never bear out reality, and constantly lying about what is going on when prediction after prediction falls short, practically always results in someone becoming discredited and being kicked out of the scientific community. The only group of people that seems to be immune to their failures to follow the scientific process seems to be the AGW cult, because tyrannical governments continue to fund the nonsense in the hopes they can use the shit to rob citizens of their freedoms and wealth.

    AGW is a scam and people that want real science instead of the current nonsense point that out.

    Try again.

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  7. CM

    Sounds like you are claiming scientific consensus based on what Steven Goddard and a Warren Meyer write on their political blogs. That isn’t science Alex and it’s not what “real scientists” have demonstrated using, you know, actual science. Wikipedia provides a good collection of claims made by Goddard, the guy is addicted to being wrong. Even Judith Curry and Goddard’s good mate Watts distanced themselves from his claims about NASA’s data. Desperate, desperate. Try looking at THE SCIENCE Alex, rather than these ideological blogs. It’s no wonder you’re so misinformed.

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