Unexpectedly!… Seriously this is just getting stupid now

The blatant lies from the cronies of this corrupt and incompetent administration, especially around the economic climate, and in particular about employment, have provided a slew of jokes for those of us that know better. Preliminary report after preliminary report painted a positive picture and was accompanied by constant, over-the-top fanfare from a desperate media that wanted to claim that tax-and-spend Keynesian bullshit was making a disastrous economic landscape – caused by idiotic pseudo-marxist cum Keynesian driven thinking progressive economic fantasy about forcing the lenders that finance home purchases to allow unqualified people to buy them, and then create a scheme to make these bad loans palatable – better. The economy was finally on the right track. Jobs were being created in post-depression/recession numbers, and it obviously had to be because of the genius from our collectivists cadre now running DC. Front page news. Every fucking time.

Then came the revisions, always behind the covers and with a plethora of excuses that moved the blame elsewhere, that showed the predicted economic boom caused by the left’s economic fantasies and overregulation was based on nothing but puerile fantasy and wishful thinking. Well, go back a month and it was front page news everywhere – right before Obama’s state of the Union address, no less – that the economy was back on track and added some 292K jobs. Every cowbell ringing lib was out there fist pumping and hollering and hooting. Me I just told them I would wait for the revised numbers before passing my judgment.

I guess I don’t even need to do that, because, I suspect, that after all this making up shit, the Labor Department has decided tojust tell a big lie the masters want to hear despite what their real data says. When the revised numbers come, I bet we lost jobs. But what we need now, according to Obama’s SOTU, is more of the same shit they have given us for the last 7 years, only by presidential fiat.

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  1. Hal_10000

    You should be embarrassed to link to this analysis, Alex.  It’s ridiculous. He’s just comparing total employment numbers.  Jobs created includes people who change jobs, retire, entire the work force, etc.  So just comparing the raw number of employed people is total bullshit.  THAT is measured by the unemployment rate, which did not go down.

    And he admits that the seasonal adjustments balance out so that, in the end, the number of jobs created in any year is the same.

    Crudele has been peddling this crap for years.  I see no reason to take him seriously now.

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  2. AlexInCT *

    You should be embarrassed to link to this analysis, Alex.  It’s ridiculous. He’s just comparing total employment numbers.  Jobs created includes people who change jobs, retire, entire the work force, etc.

    I think I see the problem, and it is that you, in your typical Obama cock sucking fashion, miss the obvious. Are you trying to tell me that the total number of jobs lost shouldn’t be factored in the discussion? Because if I claim that the economy “created” 400K jobs, but the economy also lost 380K jobs (or even more) during the same time, I am sure nobody is going to just let me get away with the fact that the difference is 20K jobs added to the total (at least not if I am not a democrat it seems). Anyway, lets wait until the revised numbers come out. I am sure they will be down, and then then down considerably. Adding 20K new jobs tot the total employment picture in a month isn’t just anemic, it is frighteningly bad.

     So just comparing the raw number of employed people is total bullshit.

    You have got to be shitting me. Bullshit is ignoring the jobs that were lost when reporting the economic trend. My economic policies created more than 1/2 a million jobs last month! I am an economic fucking master. Huh, what do you mean my economic policies also destroyed a million jobs during that same time? Focus only on the growth you racist, homophobic, misogynist, bastard! If the Dept. of Labor is not reporting that number as a delta between jobs created and jobs lost then the number is abso-fucking-lutely even more meaningless than they have already made it.

    THAT is measured by the unemployment rate, which did not go down.

    Yeah, it sure did. But that is because so many people have fallen off the rolls and have simply given up on finding work, not because the economic situation has become better. Google jobless economic growth. It is an absolutely misleading number. If you want the real picture, look at the number that is at it’s lowest in 5 decades: number of people employed as a percentage which is below 63%.

    You can also tell your toady that I had a good laugh at the twists of irony his grandstanding produced. If anyone needs to be embarrassed about their beliefs, lack of logic, and stupidity, it is him.

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  3. Hal_10000

    So by AlexLogic, if I quit my job and get another job, that’s not a benefit to the economy.  Gotchya. You also ignored the most salient point: that the seasonal adjustments balance out.  If we “only” created 6000 jobs in December than that means we created 1.2 million jobs in October.  You didn’t mention that, did you? Or that Crudele has been making wild-eyed claims and predictions for years and has always turned out to be wrong.

    I’m not saying the economy is great.  I’m saying that this particular argument is a bunch of crap. The labor force participation rate is a legitimate point. Also legitimate points: stagnant wages, crony capitalism, over-regulation, Obamacare, etc.  But this “the numbers are FAAAAKE!” stuff is black helicopter conspiracy bullshit. It contaminates any real criticism of the Obama economy.

    I think I see the problem, and it is that you, in your typical Obama cock sucking fashion, miss the obvious

    Whenever you say this, you’re basically admitting you’re wrong and conceding the entire argument. It’s basic Obama Derangement Syndrome:

    1) Sufferers of Obama Derangement make some claim that is complete crap.

    2) People who give two shits about reality point out that it’s crap.

    3) Obama Derangement sufferers accuse non-deranged people of sucking the President’s dick.

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  4. CM

    Alex, when the numbers are bad do you ever say “let’s wait for the revised numbers”?

    Perhaps when there is a Republican President.

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  5. AlexInCT *

    So by AlexLogic, if I quit my job and get another job, that’s not a benefit to the economy.

    Are you seriously asking this idiotic question? How the fuck is counting you, someone that is already employed, switching jobs, going to produce anything but a marginal economic value and obscure the facts? You were already employed! If they bring someone that was <b>not</b> employed to do your old job, then we have job growth. But if it was just another person already employed elsewhere sliding into that job, it too is marginal at best. Those already employed have some mobility, but those out of the job market are fucking screwed. Pretending this phenomenon is an indication of good economic turn, is at best idiotic, and at worst destructive. And that is why we have had a jobless recovery painted as a greet boon by these losers. Economic growth means new jobs that not only allow people already to move sideways or up, but that help bring those that want to work into the fold.

    I point out that the new jobs that have been created – and mind you I didn’t bother breaking them down so you could see that during this assholes 7 years most of the jobs created have been low end ones – fall far short of what would be needed to pretend there is a solid economy, and you argue against that? No wonder you buy into that AGW bullshit.

    Gotchya. You also ignored the most salient point: that the seasonal adjustments balance out.  If we “only” created 6000 jobs in December than that means we created 1.2 million jobs in October.  You didn’t mention that, did you?

    Please break down how you come up with those numbers. I would love to see the math.

    The problem with you is that you have Obama’s cock firmly lodged in your ass and you keep pretending otherwise. My point, and you will only waste time arguing it because you need to protect this dickhead from the title he has so nobly and aptly earned of the worst president in American history (and for sure in my lifetime). The economy has not recovered as these lying criminals have been claiming (unless you are one of them, because they sure have managed to steal a shit ton of tax payer money and productivity). At best, as you point out, there is an employment shell game going on, but the reality is that we have the lowest total employment numbers in decades. But they keep pretending things are better. Fuck the lot of you.

    The one thing I agree with you CM is that of we get a republican in the WH we are far more likely to get more accurate numbers if you are willing to put up with the made up lies to make thing worse that are sure to accompany the stories. When Boosh was president and we had a 4.3% unemployment the media constantly pointed out – sometimes even correctly – that all was not as well as these people claimed. We spent the last 7 years being told that an abysmal economy was actually better than what we used to have because the “right people” finally were in charged. Contrary to your devious attempt to pretend otherwise, this is something that we need to call out about the Obama economy.

    You two can keep pretending otherwise, but the fact stands that we are being lied to and things are really bad. Maybe you are right CM, once we get someone other than a democrat in the WH they will finally admit it.

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  6. Hal_10000

    Please break down how you come up with those numbers. I would love to see the math.

    From the article you cited.  Did you actually read it?  or did you just read the summary at Breitbart or whatever black helicopters site you got it from?

    In October, the US added a non-seasonally adjusted 1.2 million jobs, followed by 416,000 new non-seasonally adjusted jobs in November and the 11,000 new non-seasonally adjusted jobs in December.

    He’s not saying we didn’t create 2.7 million jobs last year.  He’s saying December was bad and the economy is starting to tank.  But that’s precisely the illusion that the seasonal adjustments are designed to remove.

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  7. AlexInCT *

    He’s not saying we didn’t create 2.7 million jobs last year.

    I ask again, how many jobs we lost during that same period, because to me the number that matters is the delta. If we truly created 1.2 million brand new jobs over and above what we had in the previous month, then that is awesome. If we didn’t, and I saw none of that in the article you tell me I found on a black helicopter site (I didn’t by the way, unless the NY  Post is one of those according to you), then you are reaching again.

    He’s saying December was bad and the economy is starting to tank.

    And I am saying that this claim that the economy is now starting to tank is not right: it never really recovered period. We have been lied to by people whose policy decisions made sure that there wouldn’t be any kind of economic recovery. That is my fucking point. But I am sure you understood that just fine and choose to avoid that item.

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