First Debate

Surprise! I actually watched (most of) tonight’s debate, around tucking kids into bed. I must say that Fox News did a good job moderating, going after the candidates in a way that the MSM has completely failed to go after Clinton. Megyn Kelly, in particular, asked some tough questions. This is a good thing for the GOP because it will help separate the contenders from the pretenders.

My quick take:

Marcio Rubio did very well (despite the tough abortion question). He was relaxed, genial and had a grasp on the struggles of the middle class. I think — or maybe hope is the right word — that he has put himself back into the conversation.

I was unimpressed by Bush. No one laid a glove on him but he didn’t really make the case to me that he should be the front-runner. To be honest, I was kind of reminded of Romney in 2012. It seemed like Bush just didn’t want to get bloodied while the other candidates took each other out. “Last man standing” worked for Romney, but it may not be enough this time.

I was surprisingly unimpressed by Walker. He didn’t do badly but he didn’t jump out at me either and I’m having trouble, 15 minutes after the debate ended, remembering anything significant he said. This is part of Walker’s style, though.

I have really soured on Mike Huckabee. He’s big government in every way — a massive social conservative and opposed to any meaningful budget cuts. He’s also a supporter of the Fair Tax gimmick, which I oppose.

I liked Ben Carson a lot, not necessarily as a candidate but as a person. Of all the candidates, he seemed the most likable and the least politicized and the most unaffected by the spotlight. But he also didn’t show any credibility on policy and seemed to disappear at times. He would definitely win the “who would you like to have a beer with” competition (Rand would call for straight whiskey). His line about how we are our minds and not our skin was moving.

John Kasich made the case that he belong in the race, giving a great answer on gay marriage and highlighting his solid experience. I expect him to stay in this for a while.

I was once very high on Chris Christie, but I don’t think he brings anything unique to the table (other than flogging his 9/11 experience, which is not as impressive as he thinks). And his record in New Jersey is poor.

Rand Paul didn’t impress me that much either, I must say. I like Paul in the mix and I like him in the Senate. I think his chances of winning the nomination are basically zero.

Ted Cruz and Donald Trump had some one liners but neither seemed to make any real statement that they should be President.

I didn’t see the “kids table” debate earlier in the day but I’m told that the only candidate who did well was Fiorina. I’m not surprised. She’s very smart and savvy and she’s the only one that I think has a chance of getting back onto the big stage. I think there’s a very good chance she will be the Vice Presidential nominee.

So, right now, my impression of the candidates is:

Front-runners: Bush, Walker, Trump
Back in the Coversation: Rubio, Kasich
Call it a Night, Fellas: Christie, Cruz, Paul, Carson, Huckabee

YMMV.

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  1. Xetrov

    Thanks for forgetting Santorum.  Can’t stand that guy, and he did nothing memorable in the debate.  I was impressed by Rubio the most.  Well spoken.  But I’m afraid it’s just more talk from another politician.  None of them will do anything about the border, and none of them talked about the unconstitutional power grabs from the current president.  Jackasses.  Kasich did better than I thought he would.  The rest are forgettable.

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  2. CM

    Judging by how they’re fighting to claim the most God, fighting to say how much they hate the Iran deal (based on blatant lies and not offering anything in it’s place), and the whole anti-woman continuation (Trump, and how women don’t even really seem to be much of a factor in their abortion positions), I’m sure Hillary was smiling broadly. How do ANY of these candidates hope to win the middle/moderates off Hillary with those positions?

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  3. Hal_10000 *

    The thing is that while there’s no candidate I really like, there are a number that have really good ideas.  Rand Paul on criminal justice reform, several on tax reform, Kasich on neutralizing the Culture War. If we could take the best parts of them and make a Frankencandidate, it would work out pretty well.

    All the more reason that I hope the GOP holds onto Congress.

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  4. CM

    Kasich has no chance whatsoever – there is clearly no room for moderation. He sounds far too reasonable. He’s throwing out no red meat at all.

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  5. Section8

     

    All the more reason that I hope the GOP holds onto Congress.

    LOL Hal.

    As predicted. With link to the prediction post provided.

    Anyhow, just because we both know as the elections get closer; any Republican candidate will not be good enough in your view, just out of curiosity what would be a good case scenario for you?

     

    I mean do you want one that will work to roll back Obamacare, or will you say it’s too late and state they should have fought sooner? They should have fought sooner even though it was never the right time to fight when it wasn’t too late (see posts about the government shutdown that would bring about the end of the world and an end to any future Republican victories EVER). Weird they got the majority in Congress the very next election. Of course they had to lean more to the right to get those votes, and then fucked everyone over after they got those votes because they DO have their shit together and status quo is how it works.

    http://right-thinking.com/2015/06/16/trump-in/#comments

    Maybe you can find the time to answer the question now? Or are you just going to dodge it again and just go about your same tired, old, and painfully predictable routine? Mr. status quo loves the status quo and don’t buy into anything he temporarily says otherwise. he’s been pulling this same shit for years.

    CM for issues like climate change and world affairs, we’ll leave it to the hands of the brilliant minds in New Zealand. So far great job right? Thanks for stepping up :) Libya looking great with that “responsibility to protect”, ISIS in check, Putin not going anywhere. Cyber world safe and secure, and thanks for getting the hostages back from Iran. Iran sure got screwed on that deal. he he :)

    Oh yeah, and while you solve those issues, perhaps you can finally clear yourself of the lie you told about another member here, then tried to belittle him in a pathetic manner because he came back (after he said we wasn’t coming back) to defend himself from your blatant lie.

    http://right-thinking.com/2015/05/19/thomas-sowell-deconstructs-obama-and-the-lefts-bullshit/

     

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  6. Hal_10000 *

    Anyhow, just because we both know as the elections get closer; any Republican candidate will not be good enough in your view, just out of curiosity what would be a good case scenario for you?

    I don’t know that there is a best case at this point.  I like divided government.  If you look over the last thirty years, the difference between divided and united government is stark.  Huge differences in spending and expansion of federal power.

    The last time we handed the Republicans all the keys, they screwed the pooch.  Until I see a candidate that I think will be able to prevent pooch-screwing, I will continue to vote Libertarian, at least as far as the Presidency goes.

    And if you think the Republicans are going to roll back Obamacare, you’re crazy.  They’ll oppose while Obama is in office.  Once he’s out, they’ll make some cosmetic changes, maybe a fix a few of its biggest flaws.  But they will not repeal it.  That’s becoming clearer every day.

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  7. Section8

    And if you think the Republicans are going to roll back Obamacare, you’re crazy. 

    Nah my point was even if they did, you’d oppose it anyhow, just like you’ve opposed all who would actually put up a fight, except for Rand and the NSA. I’ll give you that one at least.

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  8. Section8

    Anyway, there was no lie

    Using another lie to cover for the first lie is still a lie here in America. We haven’t “evolved” yet here in the States where two lies become the truth. Please be patient. In the meantime, maybe you can find the comment that you lied about Iconoclast making. Once you do that it won’t be a lie anymore.

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  9. CM

    Not being able to find it, and not spending any further time searching, doesn’t make it a lie. Just so you know, as you seem very confused. Perhaps all that energy you’re spending defending Trump is taking its toll.

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  10. Nobody

     fighting to say how much they hate the Iran deal (based on blatant lies and not offering anything in it’s place)

    What “blatant lies” are you hallucinating now?  And why does “not offering anything in its place” matter to anyone but you?  I mean, have you actually read the deal yourself?  How do you know what are lies and what the truth is?

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  11. Nobody

    Not being able to find it, and not spending any further time searching, doesn’t make it a lie.

    Doesn’t make it automatically true, either.  Only a complete and total turd of a person makes accusations without bothering to back them up, you lazy prick.

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  12. CM

    He’s accusing me of lying, you stupid fuckstick. And I already said that I spent time looking for it. He’s the one accusing me of lying, but you’ve ignored that. Same old Iconoclast.

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  13. Nobody

    As I recall, Iconoclast also accused you of lying, about Iconoclast.  Seems Iconoclast would be in a position to know.  You wanna exonerate yourself?  Present the damned proof.  Or just cop out again.  Typical lib.

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