The Cuomo Apple Doesn’t Fall Far

At one point, I was optimistic that Andrew Cuomo wouldn’t be the big disaster for New York that his father was. Fat chance:

Under a plan approved by New York’s Fast Food Wage Board, a $15-per-hour minimum wage would be phased in over three years in New York City and six years across upstate New York, whose economy has long been the American equivalent of East Germany. The mandate would apply to any restaurant chain with 30 or more locations in the state.

Speaking at a rally in Manhattan, Cuomo pledged that he’s just gettin’ started:

“You cannot live and support a family on $18,000 a year in the state of New York — period….This is just the beginning. We will not stop until we reach true economic justice.”

The legal status of the diktat is not immediately clear. Cuomo created this particular board after failing to push a broader minimum wage hike through the legislature. Chains are expected to fight the rules, which single them out for particular treatment.

OK, do we have to go over this again? You’re not supposed to raise a family on minimum wage. It’s an entry level wage. Yeah, I know Roosevelt referred to it as a “living wage”. It’s still an entry-level wage that we have set up all kinds of anti-poverty programs around to make surviving on it easier.

(Obama’s former cabinet member Janet Napolitano is also raising the minimum wage to $15 in California schools. Expect, in a few years, to see a bunch of think pieces asking why the UC system is having to raise tuition again.)

We are now engaged in one of the most massive economic experiments in history, seeing if governments can magically create wealth and prosperity by fiat. That’s fine … if you don’t care about the people affected by it. But when prices go up and employment goes down, it will be cold comfort to people to learn that the liberals were wrong and the Law of Supply and Demand actually exists.

(As it happens, New York and California already have two of the highest minimum wages in the country. They also have two of the highest levels of income inequality and, if you account for cost of living, very high levels of poverty. It’s a mystery as to why that is.)

Cuomo has a bunch of other idiotic policies you can find at the link. But the minimum wage hike takes the cake. It applies to everyone in the state, whether they live in areas with a high cost-of-living or a low cost-of living. It singles out a particular industry with the hope of diving and conquering. It’s not even clear that it’s legal. But, I guess nothing will stand in the way of idiotic liberals determined to achieve “social justice”.

This sort of crap almost has me hoping that Hillary Clinton wins the election next year. Because there should be a Democrat around to take credit for the mess they’re creating.

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  1. Nobody

     Because there should be a Democrat around to take credit for the mess they’re creating.

    Wouldn’t matter — the Republicans would still get the blame.

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  2. Christopher

    “You cannot live and support a family on $18,000 a year in the state of New York — period…”

    Even if you were supposed to be able to support a family with minimum wage, I would find it very hard to believe that statist policies don’t make the cost-of-living higher than it would be under a free market.  In other words, they’re looking in the wrong place for a solution.

    I cannot understand why they seem to be incapable of grasping the fact that minimum wage results in higher prices.  I’ve seen it with my own eyes.  We used to be able to get McDonald’s coffee for $1.00 (any size), but then the new minimum wage here in Michigan went up and now every size is above $1.00 and they’re all different prices (it wasn’t just the coffee that went up in price, but that example was the most noticeable).

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  3. ilovecress

    OK, do we have to go over this again? You’re not supposed to raise a family on minimum wage. It’s an entry level wage. Yeah, I know Roosevelt referred to it as a “living wage”.

    What’s the difference and why does it matter to your argument?

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  4. CM

    You’re not supposed to raise a family on minimum wage.

    Who says? Where is it written? Does it work when you argue this to the person offering you minimum wage?

     

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  5. Hal_10000 *

    It will be interesting to see the effects of UCal’s minimum wage hike on student researchers. The funds for student research to be tight in any grant and I predict a lot of students are going to end up losing their research posts or having to do it for free.

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  6. Xetrov

    OK, do we have to go over this again? You’re not supposed to raise a family on minimum wage. It’s an entry level wage. Yeah, I know Roosevelt referred to it as a “living wage”.

    FDR actually made the comment about a “living wage” in his Signing Statement of the National Industrial Recovery Act.  It had nothing to do with the minimum wage bill.

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=14669

    Who says? 

    Common Sense.

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  7. Nobody

    Who says? Where is it written?

    Besides liberal politicians and their lapdog groupies, who says you are supposed to raise a family on minimum wage??  Where is that written?

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  8. Nobody

    What’s the difference and why does it matter to your argument?

    What’s the difference between minimum wage and a non-minimum wage?  Well, one is minimum and the other is not.

    What’s the difference between entry-level and other levels?  Well, one is entry-level, the others are not.

    Why do liberals ask such dumb questions?  Or, why do they ask such ambiguous questions?

     

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  9. Nobody

    Also. per your article, many of these low-wage earners still earn too much to qualify for government assistance, so your comment is doubly misleading.

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  10. CM

    Doesn’t matter whether you’re meant to or not meant to, fuckstick. It’s happening regardless, arsewipe.

    The point was about the rising number of breadwinners working low-wage jobs. You may love anal but leave it at home huh. You stupid sack of siberian sheep shit.

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  11. Nobody

    Doesn’t matter whether you’re meant to or not meant to, fuckstick.

    If it didn’t matter, you wouldn’t have asked, sniffer of bicycle seats.  And if it’s “happening regardless”, then where is it written that jacking up the minimum wage is the only solution?  Or even that it works?

    And the only one to mention anal is you, sheep shagger.

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  12. Xetrov

    Common sense doesn’t mean much if breadwinners are increasingly on minimum wage and the rest of the country has to subsidise them via government top-ups.

    Don’t say that too loudly.  You might upset Obama and those who point at the decreased unemployment rate as a successful recovery (like you have).

    See, here’s what I don’t get about idiots crowing for a higher minimum wage.  These idiots are the first in line for a new iPhone (“Obamaphone”) or iPad made by workers in China who work 11 hour shifts, 6 days a week, for $1.50 an hour.  The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

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  13. ilovecress

    What’s the difference between minimum wage and a non-minimum wage?  Well, one is minimum and the other is not.

    What’s the difference between entry-level and other levels?  Well, one is entry-level, the others are not.

    So they’re not the same thing. Which would make this statement:

    You’re not supposed to raise a family on minimum wage. It’s an entry level wage.

    Full of sh*t

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  14. Nobody

    It’s hard to know just how to respond to the level of stupid so proudly displayed in ilovecress’ post above.  Seriously, where does one start?

    So they’re not the same thing.

    But a couple of days age, you asked:

    What’s the difference…?

    That implied that there was no difference, at least none that mattered.  Now you respond with:

    So they’re not the same thing.

    Try to have it both ways much?

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  15. CM

    If it didn’t matter, you wouldn’t have asked

    It was in response to Hal’s received wisdom, you whore’s sphincter.

    sniffer of bicycle seats

    LOL. Now you’re talking.

    And if it’s “happening regardless”, then where is it written that jacking up the minimum wage is the only solution?

    Where did I write that? Clearly your lurking didn’t pick up on the numerous times I’ve said that I didn’t think raising the minimum wage was necessarily the answer.

     Or even that it works?

    See above.

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  16. CM

    You might upset Obama and those who point at the decreased unemployment rate as a successful recovery (like you have).

    What exactly did I say? Because I certainly don’t agree that lowering the unemployment rate minimum or low wage jobs is  a good thing. It’s what our centre-right government have been doing (and are on record agreeing, even though they tell us the opposite).

    See, here’s what I don’t get about idiots crowing for a higher minimum wage.  These idiots are the first in line for a new iPhone (“Obamaphone”) or iPad made by workers in China who work 11 hour shifts, 6 days a week, for $1.50 an hour.  The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

    Stereotyping is easy but ultimately meaningless in a discussion.

    Seriously, where does one start?

    Probably by not talking in the third person like a complete fuckturd.

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  17. Nobody

    It was in response to Hal’s received wisdom

    So you were trolling then.  If something doesn’t matter, there’s no reason to ask questions about it.

    Where did I write that?

    Where did I claim that you wrote that?  This thread isn’t all about you, you know.

    Probably by not talking in the third person like a complete fuckturd.

    Good thing I don’t do that.  No, I talk in the third person like an intelligent being and leave the “fuckturd”ness to dipshits like you.

     

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  18. CM

    So you were trolling then. 

    This is exactly the sort of thing I’m talking about in the other thread where you tried to pass nutty hatred off as ‘first principles’.

    Hal made a claim, I queried it, but because I’m the enemy, my query makes me a troll.

    If you’re not Iconoclast you must be a very close relative.

    Where did I claim that you wrote that?  This thread isn’t all about you, you know.

    You implied that I suggested, or think, that “that jacking up the minimum wage is the only solution”. It’s right there, in black and white. Sorry but you don’t get to change it now by trying to distract us with your blatant cocktardiness.

    Good thing I don’t do that.  No, I talk in the third person like an intelligent being and leave the “fuckturd”ness to dipshits like you.

    Intelligent beings don’t start making comments on a blog by abusing people they disagree with, right off the bat. Only insufferable arsewankers do that sort of thing. You’re immediately advertised in big bold letters and colours that you’re a blind ideologue, frothing at the mouth at the enemy all around you. Good luck climbing out of that pit.

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  19. ilovecress

    “What’s the difference”

    Okay – fair enough, that was inarticulate of me. What I should have said was “Living wage” and “entry level wage” are two different things (sounds like you agree with me on that) – so the argument that you’re not meant to be raising a family on it doesn’t hold.

    Do you agree ‘nobody’?

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  20. Nobody

    This is exactly the sort of thing I’m talking about in the other thread where you tried to pass nutty hatred off as ‘first principles’.

    Where you dismiss first principles as “nutty hatred” is more accurate.

    Hal made a claim, I queried it, but because I’m the enemy, my query makes me a troll.

    You then stated that it didn’t matter — it’s right there in black and white.  Sorry, but you don’t get to change it now by trying to distract us with your blatant cocktardiness.

    You implied…

    No, you inferred — you need to learn the difference.

    Intelligent beings don’t start making comments on a blog by abusing people they disagree with, right off the bat.

    Who says?  Where is that written?

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  21. Nobody

    What I should have said was “Living wage” and “entry level wage” are two different things (sounds like you agree with me on that)…

    No one is claiming that “entry level wage” and “minimum wage” are the same.   “Living wage” was FDR’s claim.  Doesn’t mean it means anything.

    In fact, Xetrov clarified that the two had nothing to do with each other, and provided a link to back up his claim.  See his post from July 26, 4:49 PM

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  22. Nobody

    No one is claiming that “entry level wage” and “minimum wage” are the same.

    That should be:

    No one is claiming that “entry level wage” and “living wage” are the same.

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  23. Nobody

    Just keep digging why don’t you.

    Fuck off, bonehead.  I’m just trying to untie the Gordian knot of ilovecress’ goal post moving and ambiguous questions, while you simply masturbate over the situation while whimpering for a face full of man juice.

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  24. CM

    Move closer so I can feel your sweaty palms and watch your man-boobs undulate while we unpick how “first principles” can simply be something for ideologue extremists to hide behind.

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  25. Nobody

    Move closer

    Nope — I can barely tolerate your stench with the whole planet between us.

     “first principles” can simply be something for ideologue extremists to hide behind

    Or for ideologue extremists to dismiss as “nutty hatred”.

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  26. CM

    Anyway, pressure will continue to build for these types of measures so long as jobs pay shit wages. Is there another realistic way of releasing the pressure valve? Ultimately the taxpayer otherwise has to subsidise minimum and low wage workers through welfare schemes. It’s either a matter of interfering in the market, or attempting to continually and increasingly trying to patch up market failure.

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