A new strategy to deal with the Obamacare bomb

Knowing full well that they cannot hide or provide effective cover for the abysmally bad Obamacare website they told us would make signing up go smooth and quick, even as the thing bombed worse than a nuke going off in orbit, I am not surprised to suddenly see progtard apologists pursue a new strategy. So our expectations were dashed because the Obamacare’s website is broken? Don’t despair! Don’t take this as a sign that’s what the government takeover of the now universally mandated healthcare system will be. Oh, no, just rethink it. We should have expected problems. It was predictable! Even when the liars steering the clown car in D.C. the Obama administration had told us this thing was ready to hit the ground running, only to watch it blow up in an even more spectacularly ugly way than the Disney release of “The Lone Ranger” did. No, really: it is remarkable that anyone was even able to sign up at all!

You can’t make this level of stupid up. They are even willing to lie to themselves to cover up for the fact that this thing is a disaster. Reality will never intrude on their fantasy. Patheric.

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  1. Seattle Outcast

    Reminds me this morning’s conversation about “government funding for disease research” I had with our resident Canadian. Apparently, only BIG GOVERNMENT is equipped to, and responsible for, making sure that research into cancer cures happens. Apparently, you can’t trust that horrible “profit motivated” Big Pharma to do it right, and you just can’t trust charitable foundations to choose properly (or something, that sort of got lost – maybe it’s that you just shouldn’t be in the situation of not having an endless supply of tax dollars to continue your research with).

    My position that “it’s not the proper function of a government to be considered a primary source of funding for medical research” was met with a look of “OMG, how can you actually believe that?”

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  2. Mook

    Just be thankful it wasn’t the Obama Administration invading Iraq

    Unlike Obamacare which was rammed down our throats in an unprecedented (for major transformational legislation) one-party vote, the decision to invade Iraq was had large bipartisan support with Dems such as Harry Reid, Hillary and Biden all voting in support of it. But you already knew that.

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  3. CM

    Yes that’s exactly the “but, but but…” Alex is talking about.
    The issues with the website rollout aren’t too relevant to how much support it had when it was passed. Support from Republicans varied at different times – Republicans who had supported previous bills with a similar mandate ultimately “fell into line” behind McConnell’s strategy (“It was absolutely critical that everybody be together because if the proponents of the bill were able to say it was bipartisan, it tended to convey to the public that this is O.K., they must have figured it out.”). But then you already knew that.

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  4. Section8

    Support from Republicans varied at different times

    For Obamacare who?

    Republicans who had supported previous bills

    Some did propose such things years back, ultimately it was shot down by the overwhelming majority of the party. Nice try though with the conspiracy theory angle based on an argument that a handful of people in one party represented the whole until Obama came in charge and they were all suddenly against it. More silly CM posts. Anyhow, I’ll run along and read Hal’s flipflop posts for awhile.

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  5. CM

    Nice try though with the conspiracy theory angle based on an argument that a handful of people in one party represented the whole until Obama came in charge and they were all suddenly against it.

    Terrible try. Again, bi-partisan support (or lack of) wasn’t even remotely my point. You seem to be trying to make it so, in order to then tell me I’m wrong.

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  6. Seattle Outcast

    The issues with the website rollout aren’t too relevant to how much support it had when it was passed.

    Intentionally being stupid, or just extremely forgetful?

    One of the bigger objections was that given that all other government agencies are overwhelmed with massive incompetence, particularly Medicaid and Medicare, it was a given that a half-assed attempt at nationalizing the medical industry was going to be a complete clusterfuck. And it is. And so it shall remain. It is, after all, government – there is no other outcome.

    So stop being a disingenuous fucktard.

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  7. Section8

    Terrible try. Again, bi-partisan support (or lack of) wasn’t even remotely my point.

    Well then I have no idea what you’re going on about so hats off to you I guess. Oh by the way the Iraq war is old hat, get over it. A better more up-to-date statement would have been thank God people here spoke up before Obama got us into another one over in Syria.

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  8. Section8

    I wonder if we can expect apologies from all the liberals who mocked people like Megan McArdle who warned us about this pending disaster.

    Or apologies to those who tried to stop it weeks ago only to be written off as bumbling idiots who were going to bring about Armageddon and destroy the universe! But hey why give them credit for trying. Before you know they might have some credibility and that would be a bad thing.

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  9. AlexInCT *

    I wonder if we can expect apologies from all the liberals who mocked people like Megan McArdle who warned us about this pending disaster. Not holding my breath.

    I know this was a rhetorical question, Hal, but I think it needs to be stressed that they will not only not apologize for pissing on our legs and telling us it was warm rain, but they are going to pretend they wanted this all along, and top that by claiming that it was the republicans that were the ones to fuck that up.

    What’s happening isn’t a blimp: it is a major failure. An event that in the private sector would result in a private entity going down in flames (unless they were too big to fail and beholden politicians bailed them out with tax payer cash), but in this case they pretend they are dealing with inconveniences and that this can be fixed. Can you imagine Microsoft, GE, Raytheon, or Apple putting out a major flagship product that simply doesn’t work? But it doesn’t end there because then when it blows up they pretend not only that it is only a minor glitch, but do a 180 and start saying they foresaw the problems. All when the whole time leading to the massive collapse they kept assuring us this thing was better than sliced bread. And then when cornered they suddenly go feral and say real problem is the idiots complaining about the shitty product. Can you imagine something like that happening and that company surviving that event? But here we are with our government doing just that, and all the progtards are defending it.

    Let me stress this again: this is exactly how these people will provide the healthcare coverage they have taken over to us, and I doubt they will do anything but make it worse. We are going to be royally fucked over by them, and that is why they excluded themselves from it. Pease tell me how this will be better than what we have. And spare me the evil rant about how healthcare is a right and evil profits and all that other stupid shit that progtards believe is the reason for allowing government to take it all over.

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  10. CM

    Well then I have no idea what you’re going on about so hats off to you I guess.

    Just that I agree with Alex that people when people are partisan they do pretty much anything to defend the indefensible. Which is what I said, before Mook tried to turn it into something else.

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