We want that jackboot on our throats!

Hey CM, not that passing a law makes it OK for a government to spy on your people, but at least your tyrants went through the trouble of giving it a legal veneer. Did the people of NZ get a say in this, or was this just politicans doing their thing? Not passing judgement here man, because our masters are far worse than yours. Our thugocrat didn’t even bother with passing a law to let his stooges do this sort of thing: he just told everybody to shut up and ignore the faux scandals when it wa revealed they were doing this stuff.

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  1. Seattle Outcast

    It’s kind of like “Hey, did you see what the NSA just got away with? We need to get in on that action before the clock runs out.”

    Does this mean we can all spend endless amounts of time lecturing NZ people about how wrong they are on nearly everything they do? I mean, just because it’s on the other side of the planet, has a population of an American suburb, and is pretty much nothing more than a place to visit doesn’t mean we shouldn’t take the opportunity to spend inordinate amounts of time telling them what a bunch of backwards-thinking uneducated bumpkins they are. Right CM?

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  2. ilovecress

    Yep, have at it SO. Happy to hear your views.

    Alex, the GCSB bill has been quite controversial for a while, but I think it suffers from the same problem as NSA does in the US and GCHQ does in the UK. The story is quite complicated, and most people don’t really know what to get up in arms about. The news last night (seriously, you should check out NZ news some time – it’s hilarious) was trying to explain what metadata was and why we should care, but really didn’t make a case at all.

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  3. CM

    Yep, have at it SO. Happy to hear your views.

    Totally.

    Hey CM, not that passing a law makes it OK for a government to spy on your people, but at least your tyrants went through the trouble of giving it a legal veneer. Did the people of NZ get a say in this, or was this just politicans doing their thing?

    It went through the usual law-making process, where submissions were made and heard. It passed the final stage of becoming law by 61 votes to 59. I.e. by a single vote. The right-wing parties all voted for it, the left-wing parties all voted against it.

    The story is quite complicated, and most people don’t really know what to get up in arms about. The news last night (seriously, you should check out NZ news some time – it’s hilarious) was trying to explain what metadata was and why we should care, but really didn’t make a case at all.

    The most concerning issues is how Key etc have brushed aside the concerns raised by the Law Commission, the Law Society, and the Privacy Commissioner on the basis that they have ‘vested interests’. Astounding.

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  4. Seattle Outcast

    The news last night (seriously, you should check out NZ news some time – it’s hilarious) was trying to explain what metadata was and why we should care, but really didn’t make a case at all.

    That is kinda sad – perhaps it’s because I’m surrounded by tech types all the time, but I expect people to know the basics of the technology they use. I hope you manage to get this BS tossed out in some manner – nobody needs to have a bunch of government stooges sifting through their life on a fishing expedition to see who they can put in jail.

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  5. CM

    That is kinda sad – perhaps it’s because I’m surrounded by tech types all the time, but I expect people to know the basics of the technology they use. I hope you manage to get this BS tossed out in some manner – nobody needs to have a bunch of government stooges sifting through their life on a fishing expedition to see who they can put in jail.

    There is a general election next year. The centre-left coalition (in opposition at the moment) have certainly made noises about repealing or amending it. We’ll see (they’ll obviously need the numbers first). But thanks for your kind thoughts and for telling us how to run our country ;-)

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