Professor Killer

You’re not going to fucking believe this:

Former Weather Underground radical Kathy Boudin — who spent 22 years in prison for an armored-car robbery that killed two cops and a Brinks guard — now holds a prestigious adjunct professorship at Columbia University’s School of Social Work, The Post has learned.

Boudin, 69, this year won another academic laurel — being named the Sheinberg Scholar-in-Residence at NYU Law School, where last month she gave a lecture on “the politics of parole and re-entry.”

To be fair, an adjunct isn’t the same a tenure-line position. I’ve been an adjunct and it’s basically a low-paying semester-to-semester post. And Boudin did a lot of work and published papers while she was in prison. So she’s not completely unqualified. According to Columbia, the students like her (although it’s not clear how many know of her background).

But to be really fair, that still mean a convicted murderer is being paid … by an Ivy League school … to teach.

I want to step back a bit. The Left — and I’m going to assume most of Columbia and NYU is included in that — is always talking about how rich white people have such huge unfair advantages over the rest of us. Now consider the facts here. Most of Boudin’s co-conspirators got three life sentences and will not be eligible for parol for another 45 years. Boudin escaped that fate because her father was partner with a prestigious criminal defense lawyer. The vast majority of those convicted of even misdemeanors would have trouble even getting into college, least of all teaching. But here we have a woman who participated in an armed robbery and a violent resistance to arrest that left three innocent bodies on the floor and nine children without fathers.

I’m in favor of rehabilitation of criminals. I’d like to think that the idiot things we do will not follow us throughout our lives. But this was not a shoplifting incident. This was a triple killing. Maybe we can argue she has seen the error of her ways. But do we have to make her a professor because her vile despicable actions had the veneer of politics?

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  1. AlexInCT

    You’re not going to fucking believe this:

    Actually, my reaction was exactly the opposite, Hal. I can completely believe it is happening. The USSR should have held on another decade or so, and the communists and fucking radical leftards thatcontrol and drive our education system would have given them the win. The viler and more evil of a leftist you are, the higher your value to the movement. I am surprised Ted Kazynski isn’t a honorary prof by now too.

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  2. Seattle Outcast

    Just like all the commies and traitors outed back in the 50’s & 60’s went on to work in lucrative education jobs at Harvard and in Europe. So fucking oppressed!!

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  3. Mississippi Yankee

    When I read this story a day or two ago my first thought was:

    Hal, I wonder what heinous crimes he’s committed?”

    /small smiley face :-)… I still remember your Johnson vote/

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  4. CM

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  5. balthazar

    So CM you’d be perfectly onboard with a Klegal of the KKK teaching at a College eh after hes been released after that cross burning incident. Peoples decisions should have consequences.

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  6. grady

    I don’t really understand why this is a “you’re not going to fucking believe this” issue: is there some suggestion that she’s unqualified for this role and is only getting this because of her past (lefties rewarding lefty hero)?

    I doubt anyone would say she isn’t qualified. Why isn’t an Ivy league school embarrassed to have a convicted murderer as a professor? I understand she paid her debt to society (Hal’s point of the difference in sentencing not withstanding), but do you really honor someone who has this in their past?

    To grab the emotional plee: What would the nine fatherless children think of her new-found success?

    I’m all for rehabilitation and allowing folks a second chance, but this was murder during a robbery. Not exactly the type of person who deserves praise. If she was working with ex-felons on a road to their recovery, I could see reasons for respect, but teaching in the Ivy league?

    Columbia University’s School of Social Work

    Maybe she has special qualifications?

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  7. Hal_10000 *

    Hal, I wonder what heinous crimes he’s committed?

    I’m not on tenure-line. Maybe I should go out and commit some. Tearing the tag off a mattress is still a crime, right? :)

    I don’t really understand why this is a “you’re not going to fucking believe this” issue: is there some suggestion that she’s unqualified for this role and is only getting this because of her past (lefties rewarding lefty hero)?
    Wouldn’t it be great if many more prisoners did the same?
    Is the anger because she was affiliated with a violent lefty criminal group, as opposed to a non-political criminal group?

    My anger is because her crimes are being ignored because she was part of a Lefty terrorist group that seems to have undergone a bit of rehabilitation. If she’s changed her ways, great. I don’t see a reason to give her a position at one of the most prestigious universities in the country (two, actually).

    Columbia University’s School of Social Work

    Maybe she has special qualifications?

    She does. She started writing papers and doing work on this subject while she as in prison and has a 20 year history. If she were giving speeches or something, that’d be different.

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  8. CM

    So CM you’d be perfectly onboard with a Klegal of the KKK teaching at a College eh after hes been released after that cross burning incident.

    Yes (again, I don’t see why or how the politics, or whether there are any, must be necessarily relevant). If he’s qualified and otherwise meets their requirements for the position. Particulalry if its teaching something that his background gives him unique knowledge for. I don’t see how it in any way condones the criminal act. Unless someone is trying to argue that the possiblity of redemption (as evidenced by this example) somehow provides a greater incentive to carry out a criminal act? That would seem to be extremely weak.

    Peoples decisions should have consequences.

    Of course. That’s why we have justice systems.

    Why isn’t an Ivy league school embarrassed to have a convicted murderer as a professor? I understand she paid her debt to society (Hal’s point of the difference in sentencing not withstanding), but do you really honor someone who has this in their past?

    So there’s some sort of invisible rehabilitation ceiling? I can’t imagine knowing that would assist in the rehabilitation of prisoners. I’m sure most of them already know there are going to be significant limits to what they’re going to be able to do for the rest of their lives….
    However if I was involved in making the decision at the school I’d certainly want to give careful consideration to whether it would be damaging to the school. Perception is a significant consideration.

    To grab the emotional plee: What would the nine fatherless children think of her new-found success?

    I’m sure it would turn their stomachs. It would mine. But there is a good reason why we don’t let victims determine the fate of the criminal.

    I’m all for rehabilitation and allowing folks a second chance, but this was murder during a robbery. Not exactly the type of person who deserves praise. If she was working with ex-felons on a road to their recovery, I could see reasons for respect, but teaching in the Ivy league?

    I think we can be pleased that this sort of rehabiliation is possible (even more so in a general sense), but still very mindful and aware of what this specific woman did. I don’t think it has to be one or the other. At the end of the day, surely we’d prefer people like this to be doing something productive and even valuable, as opposed to still being in prison ridiculously protesting their innocence. For one thing, instead of consuming a shitload of tax money, she’ll be paying it.

    My anger is because her crimes are being ignored because she was part of a Lefty terrorist group that seems to have undergone a bit of rehabilitation.

    Are they being ignored? By who?

    If she’s changed her ways, great. I don’t see a reason to give her a position at one of the most prestigious universities in the country (two, actually).

    So what should the limit of her achievement be?
    Surely the more light people see at the end of the tunnel, the easier it is to get people to change their ways? Unless, as I said, someone actually believes this provides some sort of perverse incentive to commit crime to begin with? Surely not.

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  9. ilovecress

    Just to be sure – is your beef that she’s a lefty? i.e. You don’t think that a ‘right wing’ criminal type would ever be in this position?

    Becuase if it’s just about Columba employing a murderer who has served their sentence out – you’re getting into all sorts of regulation and free market issues that I’m not sure is consistent from what I think you guys believe.

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  10. Mississippi Yankee

    So CM you’d be perfectly onboard with a Klegal of the KKK teaching at a College eh after hes been released after that cross burning incident. Peoples decisions should have consequences.

    I absolutely agree with you about consequences. But it brings to mind that during most of the Booosh years an ex-Klegal of the KKK Robert Byrd (D-WV) was 4th in line to the presidency. That always made me scratch my head.

    Oh and Life without parole for heinous crimes such as her’s. Capital punishment, with it’s ensuing appeals, cost the taxpayer too much.

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  11. balthazar

    Great, I’ll await your defense of the child molester that wants to run a day care facility after he/she serves their time then.

    Hey at least the child molester didnt kill anyone… right…. right?

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  12. ilovecress

    If the system says that they’ve served their punishment, and the daycare want to exersise it’s freedom to hire that person, then great. They won’t be looking after my kids, but that’s my choice.

    Like I said – are you p*ssed at the system letting someone who was convicted for murder teach at a university? If so, which companies should be allowed to hire murderes, and which ones should be regulated (by the Government I’d assume?)

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  13. CM

    I absolutely agree with you about consequences.

    Who doesn’t?

    Great, I’ll await your defense of the child molester that wants to run a day care facility after he/she serves their time then.

    Are there regulations about who can run a day care centre? I’m not even sure about here let alone there. Usually convicted child molesters are monitored to some extent after release aren’t they? Wanting to have sex with kids is a sickness. Quite different from other sorts of crimes I would have thought. Additionally, I’m not “defending” Boudin, I’ve been talking about whether ex-cons should have limits to what they can do for the rest of their lives.

    Hey at least the child molester didnt kill anyone… right…. right?

    So?

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  14. Mississippi Yankee

    Cress,
    It saddens me to see you employ weasel words and contrary weasel argument. You started off better than that. Perhaps it’s caused from something in the water supply over there.

    One of the salient points Hal made in his post was:

    Most of Boudin’s co-conspirators got three life sentences and will not be eligible for parol for another 45 years. Boudin escaped that fate because her father was partner with a prestigious criminal defense lawyer.

    Thus your last comment would appear petty and ideologically driven.

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  15. ilovecress

    MY – not trying to be weasels – I’m just trying to find out what the beef is with.

    1. That ex cons should be allowed to teach
    2. That this particular ex con should be allowed to teach
    3. That this particular person is even free.

    What exactly do you want to happen?

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  16. Thrill

    She’s almost 70 fucking years old and she didn’t actually pull the trigger and kill anyone.

    Who cares? If she goes all Ward Churchill, I’ll agree she should be dragged through the mud, but I’m not seeing it now.

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  17. Mississippi Yankee

    She’s almost 70 fucking years old and she didn’t actually pull the trigger and kill anyone.

    Squeeky Fromme didn’t actually “stab” anybody but yet… Come to think of it neither did Charles Manson for that matter…

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  18. Thrill

    Fromme served her time, has been released from prison and is free to seek employment where she is able. Manson has never been able to convince a parole board that he isn’t a danger to society.

    Boudin was convicted and eventually released. Now she’s working. She isn’t a danger to society, so far as anyone can tell. Why shouldn’t she be hired wherever she can?

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