Shenanigans

I’ve made my position on the voter fraud thing very clear: 1) I think it does happen; 2) with the exception of close elections (e.g., Al Franken), I don’t think it happens enough to swing elections. Hypothesis number one keeps being confirmed:

FBI agents arrested a woman Friday in Las Vegas on charges that she tried to vote twice in the presidential election, Secretary of State Ross Miller said.

A criminal complaint accuses Roxanne Rubin of casting a ballot at an early voting location in Henderson on Oct. 29, then trying to vote again at a polling site in Las Vegas on the same day.

Miller said poll workers questioned Rubin when they found her name in a database that showed she had already cast a ballot, but she denied having voted and insisted she be allowed to vote.

The election workers did not allow Rubin to vote and reported the incident to the Clark County registrar, who notified the secretary of state.

One little quirk here: she’s a Republican. Yes, it’s possible that voter fraud takes place on both sides. It will be amazing to watch the Left twist themselves into a pretzel on this issue as they cry “Republicans are trying to steal the election!” while still trying to pretend that voter fraud doesn’t exist.

(The second part of that hypothesis — that voter fraud is not enough to decide all but the closest elections — comes from the same source as my lack of belief in 9/11, lunar landing or bigfoot conspiracy theories. Voter fraud on a massive scale — thousands or hundreds of thousands of votes — would involve hundreds if not thousands of conspirators, all of whom have maintained an amazing silence. It would also have to involve Republican poll watchers, poll workers and canvasing boards and likely several Republicans Secretaries of State. I just don’t see that kind of conspiratorial masterpiece emerging from the Cavalcade of Clods.

So why should worry about vote fraud if it doesn’t involve zillions of votes? Because it’s wrong and illegal. And because it could swing a very close election and probably has.)

The flip side of voter fraud allegations is voter surpression allegations levied by liberals. I’m not a big believer in those either. As with voter fraud, it’s not that voter surpression effort don’t exist; it’s that it’s a small effect. Over at Moorewatch, we repeatedly took apart the most famous claim of voter surpression: Michael Moore’s wild allegations about the 2000 election and Florida “strike list”.

Nevertheless, I wish Republicans wouldn’t do shit like this:

Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, whose decision to try to restrict early voting was thrown out first by an Ohio judge, then a federal appeals court and denied a hearing by the U.S. Supreme Court, will be back in court again this month after he issued a last-minute directive on provisional ballots that not only contradicts Ohio law but is also in violation of a recent court decision and the opposite of what Husted’s own lawyers said he would do.

As reported by Judd Legum at ThinkProgress, Husted ordered election officials not to fill out a section of the provisional ballot that verifies what form of identification that the voter produced and that, if it is incorrectly filled out, the ballot will automatically not be counted. However, under the law establishing the provisional balloting procedures, according to the lawsuit filed against Husted on Friday, it is election officials that are supposed to record the type of ID provided, not the voter — and that election officials are supposed to attempt to resolve any questions on the spot.

Husted, frankly, needs to shitcanned. He has provided immense fodder for liberal conspiracy theorists with crap like this. He narrowed early voting from five weekends to one, which is resulting in huge lines and chaos at Ohio polls this weekend, especially in Democrat-heavy inner cities. And it is absolutely unconscionable that he would give pollsters incorrect orders on how to deal with provisional ballots (of which there may be several hundred thousand). Filling out a provisional ballot form is not difficult — it’s a pretty simple form. But the appearance of impropriety is not something we can afford.

(It also contradicts what we said in 2000. You may remember that one of the things the GOP argued in Bush v. Gore was that it is unfair and illegal to make up the election rules as you go. The rules for running an election should be set months in advance and everyone should stick to those rules. Ad hoc changes — whether it’s counting hanging chads in a third recount or changing the rules on provisional ballots — are an open invitation for bullshit.)

One of the most aggravating things that could come out of Tuesday’s election would be the refusal of either side to accept the result if it’s close. Republicans might scream about voter fraud; Democrats might cry about surpression. There is little evidence that either of these is powerful enough to swing the election unless Ohio 2012 turns into Florida 2000. But these conspiracy theories are fed by Democrat refusals to countenance the reality of voter fraud and Republican efforts to monkey with election laws at literally the last minute.

We don’t need this.

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  1. ilovecress

    Hal – doesn’t your example prove that voter fraud is being stamped out where it occurs, and voter ID wouldn’t have helped any in this situation?

    The argument from the left (and from me) isn’t that it doesn’t exist – it’s that voter ID laws don’t solve any problem that needs solving – while making it harder to vote.

    But to your wider point – if Obama loses, then prepare to hear a LOT about the length of the lines, the changes to early voting, Florida and True the vote.

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  2. Thrill

    One of the most aggravating things that could come out of Tuesday’s election would be the refusal of either side to accept the result if it’s close

    But to your wider point – if Obama loses, then prepare to hear a LOT about the length of the lines, the changes to early voting, Florida and True the vote.

    Yeah, as if it’s not going to be hard enough for the winner to govern after the election, he’ll have the taint of illegitimacy hanging over his head like Bush for his entire first term. Bad omens all around.

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  3. Mississippi Yankee

    He narrowed early voting from five weekends to one, which is resulting in huge lines and chaos at Ohio polls this weekend, especially in Democrat-heavy inner cities. And it is absolutely unconscionable that he would give pollsters incorrect orders on how to deal with provisional ballots (of which there may be several hundred thousand).

    How did these voter victims evah deal with a single election day that was ‘officially’ the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November?

    Hal you have finally left me sputtering. I take back everything I’ve ever said about your lefty leanings. You are, without a doubt, a Progressive mole. How could I have been so wrong?

    Will you be talking about the NAACP folks showing up “in uniform” to re-suffle voters in line and pass out water in Houston Texas this past weekend?

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  4. Hal_10000 *

    MY, if you’re going to cancel early voting, it is only fair to:

    a) do it well in advance so people know.

    b) massively increase the preparations on election day.

    Husted did neither of these. We don’t have early voting in Pennsylvania. We compensate by having more polling places and more workers. This is not a conservative/liberal/progressive thing. Having a competently run election is basic civics.

    (The provisional ballots thing is that a couple of hundred thousand absentee ballots have not been returned. If those people try to vote in person, there vote will made provisional until it is clear that their absentee ballot was not sent in as well. Again — not a liberal or conservative thing. That’s about the integrity of the vote)

    Link on the Houston thing?

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  5. AlexInCT

    Funny how the LSM was all over this story when there are numerous investigations right now going on, in close battleground states where the margin is likely to be paper thin, and many voters are saying their electronic voting machines select Obama, and not once but multiple times in a row when they try to correct this issue, when they clicked to vote for Romney. There are a lot of cock-a-mamy stories about some kind of screen problem wand what not to excuse the problem, but I suspect this is not a problem but a feature for certian people.I wonder how many inattentive people voted for Obama when they certainly didn’t want to.

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  6. Shiftuser

    I never have been in favor of “early voting” in the first place. Set the damn date and time, publish it and tell people, “Look, damn it, it is your responsibility to know when and where to vote we are not going to coddle you simply because it is inconvienient for you!”

    This is more of that generational “everyone gets a trophey” mentality! And I am sick of it. Stop this early voting nonscense, keep the date and times and stop monkeying around with the rules, the machines and the verifications. NO VALID I.D. AND PROOF OF RESIDENCY, NO VOTE! PERIOD.

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  7. Hal_10000 *

    many voters are saying their electronic voting machines select Obama, and not once but multiple times in a row when they try to correct this issue, when they clicked to vote for Romney.

    JazzShaw at HotAir was talking about that. We had a similar problem in Austin in 2004, machines moving your vote to straight Republican ticket. Turned out that the people were turning the dial slightly backward after they voted, so it went to the next choice, which was straight Republican. Not a conspiracy. Just bad design+idiots.

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  8. Hal_10000 *

    Wow, MY. If that story is true, those guys should be arrested. Texas has pretty strict limits on how close you can campaign. I always knew because there was a circle of tables and advocates in a circle just outside of that line; like kids teasing a dog on a chain.

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  9. Mississippi Yankee

    Wow, MY. If that story is true, those guys should be arrested.

    Wow Hal, what a racist thing to say… OR … I’m sure Eric Holder will get right on it.

    Texas has pretty strict limits on how close you can campaign.

    Sorry not in “post-racial” Texas, or America for that matter.

    Houston, for many years and for good reason, has billed itself as the Chicago South.

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  10. Mississippi Yankee

    Two points were just brought to my attention:

    Haley Barbour, a Republican, said the barrage of news coverage surrounding the storm replaced the political debate in the final days leading up to the election. He added, however, he doesn’t blame the media for covering the storm.

    “Any day that the news media is not talking about jobs or the economy, taxes or spending, deficit and debt, Obamacare and energy, is a good day for Barack Obama,” he continued, adding the news “blackout” on those issues has helped the president.

    AND

    The most well known sports related presidential predictor is the Redskins Rule. The rule is simple: if the Redskins lose, the challenger wins; if the Redskins win, the incumbent wins. Since 1940 (the ‘skins moved to Washington in 1937), the outcome of the Redskins last home game before the election has correctly predicted the outcome of the presidential election 17 out of 18 times. The outcome bodes well for the Romney campaign and is considered an upset – the Redskins were favored coming into the game.

    The Redskins lost 21-13 to the Carolina Panthers

    AND 3 (make that three points)

    CNN has the race tied at 49% each as of Sunday night

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  11. Mississippi Yankee

    For those who may be interested in paranormal research:

    On Tuesday, November 6, 2012, all over the USA
    you will be able to witness a truly striking phenomena.
    Beginning at 6:00 a.m., you will see
    thousands upon thousands of the dead rise from their graves,
    head to their nearest polling places and cast their votes for Democrats.

    In that vein, a friend sent me this Ray Stevens video. BTW I love this guy

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  12. Thrill

    The most perverse aspect of voter fraud, to me, is that I suspect that there is an element among Democrats who think it’s justified because they have to do something about the billionaires on the Republican side who buy elections.

    And I don’t think I’m out of line there. The Democrats put waaaaay too much effort into blocking efforts that would improve the integrity of voting (e.g.: voter ID).

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  13. Mississippi Yankee

    The Financial Times is were I get a good portion of my European news, that and Daily Mail online
    /yeah I’m a fan boy/

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  14. CM

    Hacked voting machines? Is that how the Democrats are going to delegitimize a Romney win?

    I’m sure for whoever loses it will be no-holds-barred complaining. The Derangement Syndrome will begin immediately. Alex has been talking about obvious Dem fraud since he’s been back, it’s no doubt what he’ll be talking about as soon as Obama wins, if that happens.
    That said…

    And, just to pre-respond to those supposed journalists who have shown a proclivity for reading comprehension issues, let me be clear: No, this does not mean I am charging that there is a conspiracy to rig or steal the Ohio election. While there certainly could be, if there is, I don’t know about it, nor am I charging there is any such conspiracy at this time. The secretive, seemingly extra-legal way in which Secretary of State Husted’s office is going about whatever it is they are trying to do, however, at the very last minute before the election, along with the explanations they’ve given for it to date, and concerns about similar cases in the past, in both Ohio and elsewhere, are certainly cause for any reasonable skeptic or journalist to be suspicious and investigate what could be going on. And so I am …

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  15. CM

    The Financial Times is were I get a good portion of my European news, that and Daily Mail online
    /yeah I’m a fan boy/

    The Daily Mail is the UK equivalent of Fox News. I would often read it at Starbucks (where an old lady would reliably leave a copy behind) or on the tube (if someone left a copy). Almost any problem in the Daily Mail can be traced to lazy immigrants. Which is why it’s known as the Hate Mail. Or the Daily Fail. Anyway, much more entertaining than many of the equivalents. Especially their climate change ‘reporting’.

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  16. Thrill

    WILL PENSIONS CRISIS CAUSED BY MARXIST GAY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FROM THE HITLER-BACKED EU CHEATING ON BENEFITS AND GETTING MARRIED CAUSE HOUSE PRICE CRASH?!?

    Now THAT sounds worth reading. Got a link? ; )

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  17. Thrill

    Man. We ought to have “Write Like A British Tabloid” Day here on RTFLC. These headlines are filled with wonderment. Some of them are longer than the articles.

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  18. CM

    “Did someone say TROPES?” ~ Thrill

    WILL HOMO MUSLIM BENEFIT SCROUNGERS CAUSE JORDAN TO HAVE BREAST CANCER?!?
    —Every Star Headline Ever

    Hahahaha, Indeed. The Daily Star at least doesn’t really pretend to be serious.

    The Daily Mail is best viewed as entertainment. This is the paper that reports things like ‘Egypt is making it legal to have sex with your dead wife’. Without a second thought, their target market starts promoting it as fact. The Mail then re-writes the story, online only, but it’s obviously too late by then. Nobody bothers to re-check it. It. Has. Already Been. Established. As. Fact.

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  19. Thrill

    Aw, hell. This is spiraling out of control fast.

    UNDERGROUND BACK-ALLEY PROCTOLOGY RING EXPOSED AND CENTERED ON AMERICAN -BASED BLOG WITH RINGLEADERS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY. LIGHT POSTING THIS WEEK.

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  20. Thrill

    This is the paper that reports things like ‘Egypt is making it legal to have sex with your dead wife’. Without a second thought, their target market starts promoting it as fact

    Sounds like half my friends on Facebook…

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  21. Mississippi Yankee

    HEY, one gets their entertainment kicks as best one can. And although pro American or at least tolerant their perception of us is ‘high comedy’.

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