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The Hormone Vote

It’s the silly season. Over at my own site, I looked at a study that claims that women’s menstrual cycles affect their voting. They’re claiming — I kid you not — that single women support Obama more when they are ovulating because they feel sexier and married women support Romney more because they are trying to surpress their desire to sleep with other men.

I shit you not.

This is going to get stupider and stupider as we close in. My head is developing a permanent palmprint.

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  1. Seattle Outcast says:

    Is this what they mean by “lazy science”, or is it just considered not even trying any longer?

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  2. ilovecress says:

    Studies like these are like a red rag to a bull…..

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  3. Mississippi Yankee says:

    Studies like these are like a red rag to a bull…..

    In real life someone would slap you for that pun :)

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  4. ilovecress says:

    Yeah…but it would be worth it.

    Is this site so quiet today because everyone is off reminiscing in the archives?

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  5. blameme says:

    Interesting. What part of the cycle were you in when you started to write that you, a conservative, were pulling for Obama to win?

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  6. InsipiD says:

    Is this site so quiet today because everyone is off reminiscing in the archives?

    I was off of work and early voting. To my surprise, I had to wait in line. I later heard on the radio that nearly 25% of voters in my state have already voted, which is probably close to half of the ones that will eventually vote. I know my parents intend to vote today.

    Also, having moved in the last year, I encountered the worst voting machine that I’ve ever seen. Anyone who isn’t familiar with computers and can’t easily use a smartphone will be SOL come voting time. Instead of a sensible bubble sheet, touch screen, or even buttons next to the appropriate choice, this little gem uses a jog dial to log in and vote. The biggest problem with the 2000 election is that it was the reason that many jurisdictions did away with mildly confusing punch ballots and replaced them with non-sensically confusing electronic voting machines just because they’re electronic. I still think that the electronically counted bubble sheet from my first election (1996) was by far the best one I’ve ever used.

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  7. Hal_10000 says:

    Interesting. What part of the cycle were you in when you started to write that you, a conservative, were pulling for Obama to win?

    The part where Romney was sounding like a neocon idiot.

    I deliberately took Tuesday off because I was just exhausted from four solid weeks of coverage. We really are in the glide path to the election so I’ll probably be putting up more stories on govt bullshit and less on the elections. Takes a while to switch gears.

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  8. repmom says:

    So that’s why I will be voting for Romney? To suppress sexual desires to cheat on my husband? Good to know.

    {Rolls eyes}

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  9. Xetrov says:

    It’s cause Romney’s hair is so sexy.

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  10. repmom says:

    It’s cause Romney’s hair is so sexy.

    I do prefer it over Obama’s ears.

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  11. repmom says:

    I deliberately took Tuesday off because I was just exhausted from four solid weeks of coverage. We really are in the glide path to the election so I’ll probably be putting up more stories on govt bullshit and less on the elections.

    Can we look forward to a Fun Friday Five tomorrow?

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  12. balthazar says:

    The part where Romney was sounding like a neocon idiot.

    I deliberately took Tuesday off because I was just exhausted from four solid weeks of coverage. We really are in the glide path to the election so I’ll probably be putting up more stories on govt bullshit and less on the elections. Takes a while to switch gears.

    Wow, you really are just a lib in disguise.

    Someone sounds like a “neocon idiot” to you, so you go even FURTHER left and want the guy whos has been using Exec Priv like pretty much no other

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  13. Seattle Outcast says:

    Who here besides me has already voted?

    Took a nice 45 minutes with the voter’s guides at the dining room table with a fresh cup of coffee and marveled at how many different Marxist/Socialist/Workers/Green party candidates there were for president. At least one of which is a naturalized citizen from Colombia and constitutionally barred from the office of president – how did he even make it on the ballot?

    Right now when I watch TV (always previously recorded), I fast forwad through the political ads and watch all the Halo 4 spots.

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  14. Poosh says:

    Oh crap, forgot about those 20 minute Halo 4 real-life movie things on youtube!

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  15. Seattle Outcast says:

    Oh crap, forgot about those 20 minute Halo 4 real-life movie things on youtube!

    Episode 4 is out on Oct 26 – the Covenant have already landed and started blowing shit up by the end of episode 3.

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  16. blameme says:

    The part where Romney was sounding like a neocon idiot.

    Weak response. No conservative I know of would see any of those three debates and start to hope for Obama to win.

    None.

    I understand being peeved at Romney and being disappointed that he is the candidate. But wishing for the re-election of this bozo takes the cake.

    That’s like finding out you have cancer and the doctor giving you a prescription that while not perfect is better than having no medical response. Then, instead of taking the better of the two bad choices you double down and say – fill me up with as much cancer as you can find doc. If I’m sick, let’s make it hurt!

    Seriously.

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  17. Kimpost says:

    Weak response. No conservative I know of would see any of those three debates and start to hope for Obama to win.

    I think that Hal was talking about the Romney from the primaries. And to a lesser extent Romney from before the first debate against Obama.

    After the first debate, it was clear that Romney was back to being a moderate again.

    Hal’s not rooting for Obama anymore. He’s voting for Johnson.

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  18. blameme says:

    I understand Kim. But no matter – no true conservative would ever start pulling for Obama just like no true liberal would start pulling for Romney.

    You might start pulling for Romney to get hit by a bus so another candidate could step in, or you might wish that Paul Ryan wasn’t nuts on many issues, or you might wish that Johnson became a media darling.

    But in now way, form or fashion you would you start to hope for an Obama win.

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  19. Hal_10000 says:

    Can we look forward to a Fun Friday Five tomorrow?

    Definitely!

    Weak response. No conservative I know of would see any of those three debates and start to hope for Obama to win.

    I said *before* the debates. The debates were what made a Romney win acceptable to me.

    Someone sounds like a “neocon idiot” to you, so you go even FURTHER left and want the guy whos has been using Exec Priv like pretty much no other

    It’s not a matter of how far left they are. The issues was divided vs. united government. The reason I was more worried about Romney than Obama was because of the prospect of Romney with a Republican Congress. Obama can be as left as he wants; as long as the GOP retains Congress, his powers are limited.

    Romney’s debates reassured me that he won’t be an ideologue. And it looks like the Democrats are … ugh … going to hold onto the Senate. So we’re going to have a divided government either way. As I said in Post 5, keeping the Republicans in control of the House may be the most important fight this year.

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  20. Hal_10000 says:

    So that’s why I will be voting for Romney? To suppress sexual desires to cheat on my husband? Good to know.

    {Rolls eyes}

    That’s exactly what my wife said! She’s not a citizen but likes Paul Ryan a lot. And back home, she’s a through-and-through Liberal (Liberal in Australia being the conservative party; opposed to Labour). So last night, I said, “Honey, are you only conservative because you want to sleep with other men?” The look I got was AWESOME.

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  21. balthazar says:

    Hal’s not rooting for Obama anymore. He’s voting for Johnson.

    ummm that = voting for obama.

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  22. Poosh says:

    I understand Kim. But no matter – no true conservative would ever start pulling for Obama just like no true liberal would start pulling for Romney.

    . It is true no true conservative would vote for Obama, but PLENTY of true liberals would happily vote for Romney. Romney is, after all, just a centrist moderate and rather wet. He’s hardly a true conservative. Romney was well known, until Obama’s propaganda machine got churning, for being a middle of the road moderate. Compared to Obama who is skipping his way leftwards on the left-right scale. Not to mention cracking down on drugs even more than Bush, killing US citizens with bombs, and ignoring US state rights. (Obama’s failed proposed Budget was rejected by his own party… that’s how far away he is from liberals)

    The part where Romney was sounding like a neocon idiot.

    What do you think is actually a “neocon” Hal? And why do you use that label as if that was some sort of insult. With Obama dropping drone bombs on any one he thinks is a terrorist leader (as if that would make a difference against an international, ever growing ideology)?

    As if Obama, like Clinton, wouldn’t hesitate to throw a few bombs in any direction, if he thought it would give his ratings a boost.

    You want to know the obvious difference during the debate between Obama and Romney in foreign policy?

    Hal, loves the President who betrayed his country and happily made deals with Putin, the Tyrant. The tyrant who is so powerful he can kill Russian fugitives IN FUCKING GREAT BRITAIN without consequences. What a great guy Obama is! Woooo! Drones! Everything is fine with your magical drones….

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  23. Poosh says:

    fyi Ron Paul was in Bruno. True story.

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  24. blameme says:

    I said *before* the debates. The debates were what made a Romney win acceptable to me.

    Don’t care. Before, after during no conservative would ever vote or hope for Obama to win. Again, hope Romney gets hit by a bus etc etc so that another candidate more to your liking takes his place.

    But under no circumstance can some who calls themselves (or understands what it means) conservative would ever hope for Obama to win. Ever.

    It’s a BS comment and was either put in to get attention or was actually felt and shows your non-conservative stripes.

    I like ya Hal, I do. I just wish you wouldn’t claim to be conservative when in many instances (this one for example) you clearly are not.

    You do a great job articulating your ideas, you back them up with plenty of evidence etc. No problem with how you write or even what you write. I actually enjoy your opposing viewpoints and wish others that are more center left would write and respond in the fashion that you do.

    But you do not come from a conservative viewpoint and their is no need to pretend you do. That’s all. I’ll get off my soapbox and go back to lurking. It’s what I do best.

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  25. Hal_10000 says:

    ummm that = voting for obama.

    Funny. Liberals are telling me that == voting for Romney

    What do you think is actually a “neocon” Hal?

    A neocon is pretty easy to define. A neocon is a big government conservative; someone who believes that government can make people better. Traditionally, they have supported things like aggressive foreign policy, unitary executive, compulsory volunteerism and social engineering through the tax code/welfare system. The neocons have come to be heavily defined by foreign policy; believing in nation-building and that war is a good thing unto itself. A perfect example of the neocon foreign policy are the people who were telling me that we needed to invade Iraq because if we could make it a democracy and flip Iran, we could turn the tables on Saudi Arabia. And yes, much of Obama’s foreign policy is right out of the neocon playbook.

    [If you want a good book about the neocons, Michael Tanner's "Leviathan on the Right" goes through their history, their philosophy and their policies.]

    Hal, loves the President who betrayed his country and happily made deals with Putin, the Tyrant.

    This is why politics can drive me crazy. I don’t love Obama. I don’t even like him. I’ve written several thousands posts and comments criticizing him. What I want is a conservative government. I really don’t care which particular party is in power as long as its actions are conservative. A divided government has traditionally been far more conservative than a united one. Cato did a whole series on this years ago showing that divided government produces less spending, less regulation, less intrusion.

    Let’s look at the last decade and the various combinations of governments we have had. In terms of expanding or limiting the power of government, I would rank them as such:

    Obama w/ Dem Congress: 2008-2010: Worst
    Bush w/ a GOP Congress: 2000-2006: Really bad
    Bush w/ a Dem Congress: 2006-2008: Really bad
    Obama w/ GOP Congress: 2010-2012: Mostly useless

    As I noted in my previous post, the last two years have seen the first spending restraint since the Clinton years.

    The 2008-2010 period was awful but it was something I think we may have to endure to get the lard out of the GOP skulls. Honestly, their time in the wilderness could have gone longer but Obama + Pelosi was such an awful hideous combination — so much worse than even I expected — that the GOP had to return to power whether they’d pulled their heads out of their asses or not.

    A few months ago, Romney was looking like Bush w/ GOP Congress: more wars, more bullshit, no control of spending or the budget. His return to the center and his debate performances persuaded me he’ll be better than that.

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  26. Miguelito says:

    A few months ago, Romney was looking like Bush w/ GOP Congress: more wars, more bullshit, no control of spending or the budget. His return to the center and his debate performances persuaded me he’ll be better than that, although not by much.

    I wonder how much of that was simply because all that was really known about Romney was filtered through the media for the most part. The debates were the first chance for people to see Romney directly, and that’s when the swing in polls started to happen.

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  27. Poosh says:

    A neocon is a big government conservative; someone who believes that government can make people better

    Debatable. Big government, is not subjective but for our purposes it is. Are they really big government? Or moderate government? I whince because if you think these mild “big government” policies are bad, wait ’til you see REAL big government. And almost everyone I should imagine thinks government can make people better. That is not a neo-conservative idea, it is shared by most in whatever way you shape it. “Aggressive foreign policy” centred around the idea that liberty is the right of ALL not merely those who stumble into it over several thousand years is not something that belongs purely to neocons. It just happens that many former liberals realised their leftist brothers did not believe in spreading liberty in and of itself, and had more left-wing agendas, thus their move to the right to transform, like phoenixes, into neoconservatives. And those people who told you to invade Iraq were quite correct in theory and strategy. The failure was in the method, the fact that we allowed Islam to contaminate these governments when we should have imposed liberal democracy. But guess what, that Iran thing almost worked. It was only when the anti-war fifth columnists and the weak willed, much like Vietnam, decided the war was bad that Iran realised you were still a sheep in wolves clothing. Libya had already capitulated. Iran was so close. But at any rate, Iran came pretty close to freeing themselves – as you were told – it was just .. someone, I forget his name, managed to throw them under the bus and fail to support them in their hour of need. Many Iranians were shot in the streets. And no. None of Obama’s dealings are out of the Necon’s playbook. They had a clear vision and understanding. Same with many leftists. Obama, on the other hand, is merely concerned with expediency and doing just enough to get by and not look like he’s clusterf*cking everything. The misguided drone policy is entirely because it’s clean and easy. It’s not very effective either. I mean. Despite you killing all these leaders, somehow, an ambassador was assassinated, a base was penetrated and 6 harriers were destroyed: this never happened on Bush’s watch. That other powers dropped the ball in Iraq when it came to nation building is not the fault of neoconservatives. And you might fine some neocons very cautious now. (I have no idea why you decided to misstate the entire Iraq war up there).

    This is why politics can drive me crazy.

    I do apologise for this smear! I do not know what brought about this outburst. But my point is you were even thinking about supporting a traitor who sold your country out to Putin.

    And “what” exactly, *is* a conservative? Conservatives have always been large tent parties in the west. You claim, at least, to want small government, but that’s not what many others want: they don’t want big government either. Now smaller government is indeed the means of our deliverance, but guess what? Few people buy that argument. And you’re never in a million years going to start convincing even your fellow conservatives that, say, it might be time to give up Medicaid, if Obama wins this election. Unless you are hoping the entire system comes down, in which case. UBER government will replace large government (it ALWAYS does). You are simply sitting back and letting the very media and intellectual people who want real big government, not neo-con government or Bush’s moderate ‘big’ spending, but real big government position themselves better and gain even more influence and esteem. The works. You’re allowing them to move the pieces on the board into checkmate.

    And when they get checkmate you’ll probably regret moaning about how your fellow conservatives weren’t agreeing on every tiny detail.

    Most conservatives are centre-right. That’s the reality. They are not hard right etc etc. I mean how many people, seriously, were hard right before the recession? It’s only the gut-reaction to Obama, “this is wrong, what he’s doing is wrong, what he stands for is wrong” that, I’d wager, perked some of yee into revisiting economics/understanding it, in order to truly grasp why he was wrong.

    BTW: if you don’t think things can get really bad. In the UK, with a half-conservative government, someone was ARRESTED by the police for calling Scientology a cult. He wasn’t charged, but that’s not really the point. I use this example because, believe me, you don’t think things can get much worse? They can get a hold hell of a lot worse.

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  28. CM says:

    A few months ago, Romney was looking like Bush w/ GOP Congress: more wars, more bullshit, no control of spending or the budget. His return to the center and his debate performances persuaded me he’ll be better than that.

    You believe the current version of Romney is the ‘real one’? Or, at least, the one that would govern? What do you base that on? Because it’s the more recent version?

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  29. HARLEY says:

    CNN has retracted the story……
    so back to our regular CM fest…….

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  30. Hal_10000 says:

    You believe the current version of Romney is the ‘real one’? Or, at least, the one that would govern? What do you base that on? Because it’s the more recent version?

    Based on how he governed Massachusetts, which was right of center. The debates indicated to me that he is still that man and will be pragmatic about some things.

    BTW: if you don’t think things can get really bad. In the UK, with a half-conservative government, someone was ARRESTED by the police for calling Scientology a cult. He wasn’t charged, but that’s not really the point. I use this example because, believe me, you don’t think things can get much worse? They can get a hold hell of a lot worse.

    Yeah, it’s gotten out of control, hasn’t it? Wasn’t there are another guy who went to PRISON for saying some awful things about a murdered girl?

    Rowan Atikinson recently had a great quote where he said we have to be free to insult each other.

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  31. Mississippi Yankee says:

    A few months ago, Romney was looking like Bush w/ GOP Congress: more wars, more bullshit, no control of spending or the budget. His return to the center and his debate performances persuaded me he’ll be better than that.

    Hal, I’m not going to accuse you of selective memory and just chalk it up to the stress of the cycle. But the point I feel you are missing is than every goddamned presidential candidate for the past 200 years has campaigned to their base. And as soon as they receive the nomination they tract to the center ALWAYS!

    Methinks you need your hormone levels checked. Isn’t there a physician in your house?

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  32. CM says:

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  33. CM says:

    So how does this alter voting patterns? Lower female voter turnout?

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  34. Mississippi Yankee says:

    If he wins we’ll see. Ultimately he probably won’t have any choice but to be pragmatically moderate, like Obama has been.

    I went too hard too early this time.

    Both your delusions and your premature ejaculation problems can be treated, Acknowledging both of your illnesses is the first step.
    Good-health to you.

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  35. CM says:

    ;-) Love ya work. You do remind me of Jabba at MW Forums, although you’re not nearly as insane.

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  36. Mississippi Yankee says:

    While we’re on the subject of hormones and consequently ‘lady parts’ the article with 2 very short YouTube clips kind of drives home the point that the female vote is slipping away from our metrosexual-in-chief.

    Obama camp mimics Putin, asks voters for political virginity

    CM, I hope I’m thinner and better looking than anyone calling himself Jabba

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  37. CM says:

    No idea what either of you look like. He was at MW Forums for years and years and made two appearances here under different names, but always refused to post a pic of himself.

    EDIT: BTW The avatar I’ve been using is the the guy this article is about. The Magee in the article is my Uncle (Dad’s only sibling). He’s looking ok for 78 I reckon.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10842608

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  38. Xetrov says:

    Ultimately he probably won’t have any choice but to be pragmatically moderate, like Obama has been.

    http://farm1.staticflickr.com/38/109688434_4a3c62e7ed.jpg

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  39. Kimpost says:

    http://farm1.staticflickr.com/38/109688434_4a3c62e7ed.jpg

    Is that the latest tea party attire?

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  40. balthazar says:

    Yeah the pragmatic “moderate” that had to bribe his own party to egt his “moderate” legislation past. So glad hes been so “moderate”

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