Let The Games Begin

For those that think the Olympics don’t start until Friday, au contraire.

Although two days until the official kick off, I’m stoked. For a quick recap of Beijing, check out attached video

There are a number of interesting Olympic stories in the news of late:

The IOC remained consistent in shrieking from any controversy by always taking the weenie way out and refused one single minute of silence in remembrance of Munich, what a bunch of pussies. But we here in the States aren’t burdened by the ruffling of feathers, so we will take matters into our own hands.

London has already taken a beating even before the games begin, both with the weather, and for the poor lack of planning wrt security, and a last minute dodge on striking public workers.

But the bad news does not stop there, now they want to take all the fun out of watching beach volleyball.

And then there is this story. As if Greece wasn’t sucky enough. I’m struggling to find the “racism” in her comments. I’ll admit that it was stupid and tasteless (those that have never done a stupid thing in their lives, raise your hands), but keeping her home? If I was a European I would not want you sharing my currency either.

A word about the host country. For my own self, I always root for the host nation in any Olympics, it’s just good manners. The Chinese did very well in Beijing and the Brits are favored to come in fourth for total medal count.

Other stories to follow. It is wicked scary how strong the Americans are in swimming and if they don’t win say 85 to 90% of all medals in this venue, it will be a disappointment. One athlete in nine (over 10%) of the American Olympians comes from the Bay Area (either born and raised here or educated here) so there are a number of locals I will be following. Back to swimming, Although Michael Phelps’ legacy is set, I’m hoping that Ryan Lochte kicks his ass in every event where they meet.

Much as been written about the new Dream Team, we’ll see.

I hope Lolo Jones can shake her demons and get her medal. The secular world has had a good laugh at her expense because she is a woman of faith and holding out for marriage, tough gal.

And lastly, can the Americans (both men and women) hold on to that frigging baton and at least finish the marquee event in all track and field, the 4 by 100 meter relay? The Jamaicans are stacked and are favored but after Beijing are sprinters need some vindication.

In 2008 I bought my big screen plasma expressly for the Olympics. Today I made a Costco run and eyed those 70 (and 80) inch behemoths with covetousness in my heart, but I walked right on by, another by product of the Obama economy.

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  1. CM

    Although two days until the official kick off, I’m stoked.

    I’m very excited too. I love the Olympics. I just upgraded my satellite package to get 8 channels of HD action.
    We have a stronger team than Beijing with a number of likely medalists. In two events we’re clear favourites (women’s shotput and men’s pair rowing). An perhaps Drysdale in the men’s single scull rowing. We have a whole host of other rowers ranked in the top 4 too.
    We should beat the 9 medals we got at Beijing. Sports Illustrated is picking 16 for us, the Associated Press has us at 14. Either would make it our best Olympics ever. The other week (before those predictions) I picked 15, including 5 gold.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10822039

    For those that think the Olympics don’t start until Friday, au contraire.

    Excellent win from the US.
    Our girls had the privilege earlier of literally ‘kicking off the Games’ (losing 0-1 to Great Britain, unfortunately).

    A word about the host country. For my own self, I always root for the host nation in any Olympics, it’s just good manners. The Chinese did very well in Beijing and the Brits are favored to come in fourth for total medal count.

    Australia always do well but I have a funny feeling they’re going to perform lower than expectations because Brits will take too many medals off them.

    I changed my avatar the other day in honour of the late NZ athletics coach Arthur Lydiard who coached my uncle and a few other kids with problems at home to a whole handful of Olympic medals in 1960 and 1964, just for the love of it, while working two other jobs. Amazing guy.

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  2. Miguelito

    I stopped caring about the Olympics in 1980.

    Pretty sure that was the last time I really cared too, and mostly only cared because the torch route went right behind our house. Now that part was actually sort of neat.

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  3. blameme

    My Alma Mater – Auburn University, had enough medal winners in the last Olympics that if we were a country we would place 14th tied with Spain and Canada.

    Also – Auburn is loading up the Olympics with swimmers this year. War Eagle. :)

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  4. CM

    My Alma Mater – Auburn University, had enough medal winners in the last Olympics that if we were a country we would place 14th tied with Spain and Canada.

    Now THAT is impressive.

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  5. gitarcarver

    The IOC remained consistent in shrieking from any controversy by always taking the weenie way out and refused one single minute of silence in remembrance of Munich, what a bunch of pussies.

    This is false. The IOC conducted a moment of silence in the Olympic Village on Monday. Israel said “that wasn’t enough.” Furthermore, the IOC will be present at the September 5 service remember the Munich terrorist attack and the victims where it occurred – in Munich. Israel replied to that with “who cares about a sparsely attended event?”

    In other words, it is not about the memory of the athletes who tragically perished in Munich.

    Israel asked for a moment of silence during the opening ceremonies, were denied and then Israel went on some campaign to demand the moment of silence. When the IOC said “no” again, Israel turned up the heat tying to play the victim and propagandizing the victims would be forgotten.

    Poppycock.

    No one alive during 1972 will ever forget the terrorist attacks. No one will ever forget wondering and in many cases hoping there was a special place in hell for members of “Black September.”

    The IOC has been consistent in that they have honored athletes that have passed away during the Olympics in which they were participating, or scheduled to participate. So why break the tradition and have a moment of silence during the opening ceremony of this Olympics? Don’t say “its the forty year anniversary” as one of the Israeli victims’ widow has come out and criticized Romney for not having a moment of silence during the 1992 Salt Lake Winter Olympics.

    The media, as in people like Bob Costas, is free to cover the Olympics and talk about what happened 40 years ago all they want. If he wants to have a moment of silence during the opening ceremonies, that is between him and his superiors.

    The IOC offered alternative ideas and Israel said “sorry – not interested.”

    Please, don”t try to make this as some great injustice has happened. All that has happened is there are people in the world who aren’t really interested in remembering the victims of the 1992 Munich attack, but rather demanding the time, place and manner others remember those athletes.

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  6. Poosh

    Glad I’m out of the home-country for this bs. Count me as one of the many Brits who doesn’t give a f*ck.

    But glad others can get a lot of enjoyment out of it. Hope London does it well. Enjoy the legend that is Boris Johnson.

    It does seem slightly suspect that soldiers are now helping with security … maybe my conspiracy-brain kicking into gear. It’s all very convenient….

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  7. richtaylor365 *

    The IOC conducted a moment of silence in the Olympic Village on Monday

    Um, this is the first I’ve heard of this, so I did a little digging.

    In other words, it is not about the memory of the athletes who tragically perished in Munich.

    Or maybe it’s about a PROPER ceremony, something not done under color of night with a handful of participants at a place that isn’t even officially opened yet.

    were denied and then Israel went on some campaign to demand the moment of silence

    Not sure how they can demand anything since the IOC runs the show and dictates terms.

    , Israel turned up the heat tying to play the victim and propagandizing the victims would be forgotten.

    Interesting opinion.

    No one alive during 1972 will ever forget the terrorist attacks. No one will ever forget wondering and in many cases hoping there was a special place in hell for members of “Black September.”

    So, since we will never forget, we should never have public ceremonies commemorating the event? The same could be said about 9/11 (even more so), we should never have public ceremonies or anniversaries dedicated to 9/11 and it’s victims, ever?

    The IOC has been consistent in that they have honored athletes that have passed away during the Olympics in which they were participating, or scheduled to participate.

    Maybe you can provide some links about when they have done this in the past.

    . So why break the tradition and have a moment of silence during the opening ceremony of this Olympics?

    In the history of the Olympics, has there ever been an event like this before?

    Don’t say “its the forty year anniversary” as one of the Israeli victims’ widow has come out and criticized Romney for not having a moment of silence during the 1992 Salt Lake Winter Olympics.

    I didn’t know Romney was head of the IOC, isn’t it their call?

    The IOC offered alternative ideas and Israel said “sorry – not interested.”

    When did they say ,”Sorry, not interested”? In reading about the “surprise” commemoration on Monday, I did not see any Jewish officials present, did he even have the onions to notify them first or did he just have his little ceremony in a local phone booth? I would think that they would wish to be present and a part of any ceremony the IOC wishes to have.

    Please, don”t try to make this as some great injustice has happened. All that has happened is there are people in the world who aren’t really interested in remembering the victims of the 1992 Munich attack, but rather demanding the time, place and manner others remember those athletes.

    My own opinion is that it was gutless of the IOC to out of the hundreds of hours of live coverage, they could not spare one single minute to honor the victims of a tragedy that occurred on their watch. It could have been handled tastefully, with no mention of the Black September, only to honor fallen athletes at an event that originated for the purpose of honoring athletes.

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  8. Kimpost

    It does seem slightly suspect that soldiers are now helping with security … maybe my conspiracy-brain kicking into gear. It’s all very convenient….

    Why don’t you speak out?

    :)

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  9. gitarcarver

    Or maybe it’s about a PROPER ceremony, something not done under color of night with a handful of participants at a place that isn’t even officially opened yet.

    So now it is not about remembering the victims, it is about remembering them in what you believe is a “proper” way? Sorry, but a moment of silence in remembrance is a moment of silence in remembrance. How dare you denigrate those that took the time to remember the victim because the “ceremony” didn’t meet your standards? And for the record, the Olympic Village is officially open.

    So, since we will never forget, we should never have public ceremonies commemorating the event? The same could be said about 9/11 (even more so), we should never have public ceremonies or anniversaries dedicated to 9/11 and it’s victims, ever?

    Please show me where I or anyone has said that.

    But since you chose to bring up such an obvious strawman, let me answer it.

    No one has said the athletes should not be remembered. They should be and have been. They will continue to be remembered. We have public ceremonies on September 11 to commemorate 9/11, While I am sure there are other ceremonies on other days, for the most part people recognize the day. So why not remember the Munich victims on September 5, the anniversary of the actual attack? Oh wait, we are doing that, but people have said “that’s not big enough.”

    Once again, we see that it is not about remembering the victims or honoring them. It is about using the tragedy of their deaths as something else.

    In reading about the “surprise” commemoration on Monday, I did not see any Jewish officials present, did he even have the onions to notify them first or did he just have his little ceremony in a local phone booth? I would think that they would wish to be present and a part of any ceremony the IOC wishes to have.

    It was not a “surprise” commemoration. It was a planned event which Israelis chose not to attend. However, are you really saying that the remembrance of the victims only has a value if there is someone from Israel there? That is people of the world can’t remember the victims without some sort of “official presence” from Israel?

    My own opinion is that it was gutless of the IOC to out of the hundreds of hours of live coverage, they could not spare one single minute to honor the victims of a tragedy that occurred on their watch. It could have been handled tastefully, with no mention of the Black September, only to honor fallen athletes at an event that originated for the purpose of honoring athletes.

    It is not “out of the hundreds of hours of coverage.” That is where you are making a fundamental error. The only time the Israels would accept is during the opening ceremonies. That Is a much smaller window of time. The IOC has remembered the athletes in two different ways, but people have said “that’s not good enough.” As I said, one widow was upset with Mitt Romney not pushing to have the athletes remembered in the winter games. This is not about remembering the athletes.

    This is about politicizing the games.

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  10. richtaylor365 *

    So now it is not about remembering the victims, it is about remembering them in what you believe is a “proper” way?

    Well, of course it is. If Rogge had made the announcement that he was not willing to spare a minute of silence at the opening ceremonies but was going to make up for it by having a moment of silence while he took his morning shyte, we would all say that was not a proper way.

    How dare you denigrate those that took the time to remember the victim because the “ceremony” didn’t meet your standards? And for the record, the Olympic Village is officially open.

    So if Rogge said ,”I’m organizing a gathering at the ping pong table this afternoon to have a minute of silence for the victims”, that would be OK with you?

    You have made several assertions (not saying they are not accurate) but how about some links to back them up, such as:

    The Jews turned down a request to appear at the Saturday ceremony
    A widow slammed Romney for not having a moment of silence at his Salt Lake games
    The IOC already has a set or procedures in place which they have utilized in the past for honoring fallen athletes at the games

    Oh wait, we are doing that, but people have said “that’s not big enough.”

    Yes, again, it is all a matter of propriety. The Jews and several high ranking members of world state have all said that a moment of silence at the opening ceremonies would be appropriate, I happen to agree with this but you don’t, that’s cool, and if the Jews said ,”Not only do we want a minute of silence at the opening, but we want one at the start of each day of the Olympics, and while you’re at it, we want one at all medal ceremonies to”, then we would all say that that request is not reasonable.

    Once again, we see that it is not about remembering the victims or honoring them. It is about using the tragedy of their deaths as something else.

    And what is the “something else”? What do you think the Jews are trying to accomplish by getting their minute at the opening and not being satisfied with the other alternatives? What politics do you think are being played out here?

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  11. Hal_10000

    Lee did some great blogging on the last Olympics, but the archive link seems to be broken. My favorite was his comment on the opening ceremonies, “This. Is. CHINA!”

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  12. gitarcarver

    Well, of course it is.

    I see. Thank you for proving my point. This is not about honoring the athletes.

    If Rogge had made the announcement that he was not willing to spare a minute of silence at the opening ceremonies but was going to make up for it by having a moment of silence while he took his morning shyte, we would all say that was not a proper way.

    Congratulations. You have mastered the art of internet debating by taking a point to an illogical and farcical extreme to try to make a point. The fact that what you put forth never occurred or was proposed doesn’t seem to enter into your reality.

    So if Rogge said ,”I’m organizing a gathering at the ping pong table this afternoon to have a minute of silence for the victims”, that would be OK with you?

    Once again, that did not happen so your point is moot.

    Are you saying that the observance on September 5th is not enough? Are you saying the moment of silence held in the Athletes Village is not enough? If you are, you aren’t objecting to whether the actual moment of silence was “appropriate” or “proper,” but rather whether it was done on a big enough stage. Once again, you keep proving the moment of silence is not about remembering the athletes, but the venue or whether it was “proper” in your mind.

    What politics do you think are being played out here?

    You’re kidding, right?

    Please answer this…… what is special about the 40th anniversary of the Munich massacre? Why wasn’t there a cry to have a moment of silence the following Olympics? Or in 10 years? 20 years? What makes 40 years, in a different city and different country, as well as the remembrance taking place on the different day so “proper?”

    The most proper thing is to acknowledge the victims as the IOC has done, and participate in the memorial ceremony on September 5th in Munich. That would be correct and proper.

    Once again, this isn’t about the victims or their memories. It is a political act being played out on an totally inappropriate stage.

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  13. richtaylor365 *

    I see. Thank you for proving my point.

    No problem, glad to help. Considering your point is essentially that the method by which honor is paid is meaningless, so if Rogge decides that he is going to dedicate his next belch in honor of the fallen athletes, that is just super with you and shows that he really is a caring guy and sympathetic to the cause.

    Congratulations. You have mastered the art of internet debating by taking a point to an illogical and farcical extreme to try to make a point.

    Again, if your point is that the method by which honor is paid is meaningless, that only intent counts but not the actions behind it, then you need the illogical and farcical thrown at you, just to show how untenable your position is.

    Are you saying that the observance on September 5th is not enough? Are you saying the moment of silence held in the Athletes Village is not enough?

    For own self, not having a dog in this fight, I would have preferred like Obama and all the other world leaders, that a one minute moment of silence was conducted at the opening ceremonies. This tragedy happened during and because of the Olympics, it is there that honor should be paid. Whether a surprise event at the Olympic Village (when the Olympics haven’t even started yet) or some ceremony done after the Olympics is over is enough or not, ask the Jews, they were the victims here.

    What politics do you think are being played out here?

    You’re kidding, right?

    Gee, answering a question with a question, how original. I am genuinely interested in how you would answer the question, how is leaning on the IOC to hold a minute of silence at the opening ceremonies political?

    The most proper thing is to acknowledge the victims as the IOC has done, and participate in the memorial ceremony on September 5th in Munich. That would be correct and proper.

    Yes, that would be proper (are they going to bother and invite some Israeli delegates?) but IMO the MOST proper way would be to have that minute of silence at the opening ceremonies.

    Oh, and I’m still waiting for those links :)

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  14. CM

    Please answer this…… what is special about the 40th anniversary of the Munich massacre? Why wasn’t there a cry to have a moment of silence the following Olympics? Or in 10 years? 20 years? What makes 40 years, in a different city and different country, as well as the remembrance taking place on the different day so “proper?”

    I don’t want to wade into this particular debate, but when I heard about this on the news, that was my immediate thought (ok, not the ‘proper’ part, the rest). What am I missing?

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  15. Section8

    Please answer this…… what is special about the 40th anniversary of the Munich massacre? Why wasn’t there a cry to have a moment of silence the following Olympics? Or in 10 years? 20 years? What makes 40 years, in a different city and different country, as well as the remembrance taking place on the different day so “proper?”

    http://articles.latimes.com/2002/sep/05/sports/sp-israelside05

    Apparently they have. 40 years is a long time, and we can’t have a moment of silence at the beginning of every ceremony I’ll give you that, but perhaps if this was done a long time ago in a proper manner, it wouldn’t be an issue now. As for the exact date, it’s the venue that would be important in this case.

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  16. Kimpost

    Speaking of the Olympic games. I just checked in here to read what you guys had to say about Romney’s recent attack on the Olympic games and on Britain. I expected an absolute outrage based on his incompetence and apparent hate for everything British?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romney-meets-british-officials-in-london/2012/07/26/gJQAfqixAX_story_1.html

    And…

    http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/07/26/romney_book_britain_is_a_tiny_island_that_makes_stuff_nobody_wants

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  17. CM

    Poosh is no doubt this very minute explaining to Romney that Great Britain is not in fact a nation. ;-)

    Finally, they put it online…

    NZ gold’s predicted in Women’s BMX, 3 in rowing, and Women’s Shotput.
    I’d take that, but will be very disappointed if Drysdale doesn’t win the men’s single sculls.

    Kimpost, for Sweden they’re picking gold for Alshammar (Women’s 50m freestyle), a wrestling gold for Lidberg, and one for Bengtsson in the Individual Show Jumping. Very few silver and bronze though, just a few in swimming really.
    We suck at swimming. We’ll make a couple of finals perhaps. Danyon Loader (2 gold at Atlanta) was a freak.

    Shame we don’t have a few more nationalities here.

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  18. Kimpost

    Kimpost, for Sweden they’re picking gold for Alshammar (Women’s 50m freestyle), a wrestling gold for Lidberg, and one for Bengtsson in the Individual Show Jumping. Very few silver and bronze though, just a few in swimming really.
    We suck at swimming. We’ll make a couple of finals perhaps. Danyon Loader (2 gold at Atlanta) was a freak.

    Alshammar is injured. We just learnt that today. It’s uncertain if she’ll start at all. Sjöström could snatch a gold or two in swimming, but who knows? She was sick just recently. And a few other candidates bailed out because of injury too, which affects a small country as ours. Everyone here expect these games to be poor showing.

    I watched Spain lose against Japan in foot…eh soccer today. Fucking shocker! And UK drew against Senegal. Looking forward to the tennis and of course the athletics. Bah, I enjoy too many sports really. A good thing this year is that our public service has exclusive rights. This means no commercials, the great picture quality and free HD streams of virtually everything. LOVE IT!

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  19. richtaylor365 *

    Oh come on Kimpost, really? Those were some pretty weak links. By their own admission the Brits were blindsided by G4S’s failures, from the above link:

    Paul Deighton, head of the London Olympic organizers known as Locog, on Tuesday said the plan is still for G4S to supply 7,000 guards but “you can’t be absolutely certain about anything with a temporary workforce.”

    Mr. Deighton, speaking at a media conference at the Olympic Park, said the official reason for the additional troops was to “de-risk” the situation, rather than because of any further G4S shortfall.

    He said G4S’s failure to deliver on its contract “was a huge disappointment.”

    Maybe Romney will make up for it with this:

    At an event in London, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney said, “I’m looking forward to the bust of Winston Churchill being in the Oval Office again.”

    Shame we don’t have a few more nationalities here.

    Yeah, that would be nice. We used to have a guy from Japan (don’t think he was Japanese, he just lived there) and a guy from Germany as regulars.

    Seems to me (this was a few years back, at a time when I rarely visited here) that the blog had a young black kid (also lived in a foreign country) as an author, not sure what happened to him.

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  20. Seattle Outcast

    Poosh is no doubt this very minute explaining to Romney that Great Britain is not in fact a nation. ;-)

    Free Scotland!!

    I have a lot of distant cousins that would argue that GB is little more than a tyrant….

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  21. HARLEY

    We used to have a guy from Japan (don’t think he was Japanese, he just lived there)

    STOGY. a full blown socialist. , you know the 100% death tax guy.

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  22. Poosh

    Stogy ha ha I remember.

    Britain IS a tiny Island that makes NOTHING anybody wants. Didn’t I say that somewhere? I we are a services country. The only products that we sell, that comes to mind, that we have a “monopoly” over is bloody Warhammer!

    My instant thoughts are “and yet we held the world in ours hands” but Romney seems to have said that already:

    Britain ruled the largest and wealthiest empire in the history of humankind. Britain controlled a quarter of the earth’s land and a quarter of the earth’s population.

    – Romney.

    And the houses ARE small. A poor/lower class american sized house from what I can tell (from TV admittedly but people who have been to the states have confirmed this to me) is sized more like a UK middle class house (though less quality I assume). Americans have everything better.

    So fail, Kimpost.

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  23. Kimpost

    Fail? ;)

    Poosh, it doesn’t matter if the houses are small. Nor does it matter if GB can’t handle the Olympics. And it doesn’t matter if Brits can’t make shit. Friends don’t say that publicly. Romney isn’t allowed to express a negative thought about an ally – ever.

    You know, like Obama isn’t.

    Or… could it be that the notion of Obama loathing GB is as ridiculous as Romney’s is? Disregarding crappy gifts and the returned busts, of course. Ffs…

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  24. Poosh

    So fail then Kimpost. You can’t separate concepts out. Fail then.

    And why is it, that the ENTIRE UK media is trying to mash the current Prime Minister of the Security issue. But When Romney expressed “some concern” that’s wrong. If Obama did that NO ONE would have an issue in the UK media.

    It’s bullshit. And fail again Kimpost for not being able to separate concepts. Obama has sort to insult and degenerate Britain as a COUNTRY. Romney makes a few comments about the government’s failings and he’s a villain somehow? Or did he say somethingn else? I am at pains to find it.

    I mean, we’re putting soldiers in place because the security company fucked up. That security company was going to use unemployed jobseekers who they were meant to give a change to, and train them up for the industry – low and behold, many of them it seems didn’t turn up for work … which is why they’re unemployed. Does that sound like competency?

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  25. Kimpost

    I’ll try to spell it out for you. I believe that Romney holds Britain in very high regard. So. Does. Obama. Believing anything else about any of the two is either stupid, political bullshit or a combo.

    If Obama did that NO ONE would have an issue in the UK media.

    Perhaps not, but lots of people HERE, people from other right leaning blogs, as well as pundits from US talk radio and Fox News would take issue. Come on, you know that.

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  26. gitarcarver

    Considering your point is essentially that the method by which honor is paid is meaningless, …

    Of course, that is not my point at all. In fact, you are the one that seems to believe a moment of silence is only recognizable in a certain time. place and manner which you feel is appropriate.

    Again, if your point is that the method by which honor is paid is meaningless, that only intent counts but not the actions behind it, then you need the illogical and farcical thrown at you, just to show how untenable your position is.

    And again, if you have to misrepresent the point in order to break your arm patting yourself on your back, you have already lost and have no clue as to what “logic” means.

    This tragedy happened during and because of the Olympics, it is there that honor should be paid.

    No, it happened because of terrorists, not because of the Olympics. Your assertion is akin to saying /11 occurred because the city of New York was founded. That makes no sense, but you are free to believe it. Secondly, the event happened in Munich, not London. Thirdly, the deaths occurred at an airport and the Olympic Village – not at any Olympic sporting venue.

    So if one wants to make any connection other than the over all “Olympics” connection, there is no reason whatsoever to have a moment of silence at the opening ceremonies.

    I am genuinely interested in how you would answer the question, how is leaning on the IOC to hold a minute of silence at the opening ceremonies political?

    For someone with such strong opinions, I would think you would be aware of the political nature of this issue. I guess not. If you cannot and do not know, perhaps you should do some research before taking a stance on the issue.

    Yes, that would be proper (are they going to bother and invite some Israeli delegates?) but IMO the MOST proper way would be to have that minute of silence at the opening ceremonies.

    And your basis for that is because other people think so too. Way to be a part of the crowd instead of thinking for yourself. You see, I believe that if the IOC wanted to do a moment of silence at some world wide, staged event where the athletes are treated as political fodder, the better course of action would be at the closing ceremonies.

    As the athletes enter the stadium during the opening ceremonies, they enter by country. It is the closing ceremonies where the athletes enter en masse and without reference to country. Terrorism affects everyone, not just Israel (or perhaps you forgot that.) In addition, the moment would echo the same moment that was held at the closing ceremonies in 1972.

    Oh, and I’m still waiting for those links :)

    Don’t hold your breath. As two of the three links you wanted distorted what I said, there is no other logical conclusion other than you aren’t interested in the links at all.

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  27. richtaylor365 *

    not because of the Olympics

    Oh come on, now you are just being silly. Those murdered were OLYMPIANS, competing at the OLYMPIC games, while the Olympics was going on, they were grabbed (one murdered) at the Olympic facility under Olympic security, you can’t possible separate it from the event no matter how hard you try. You want a 9/11 analogy, it was the location (NYC) that defined the event, if it happened in Afghanistan or Iraq or anywhere else, it would not have the significance that it has now, how is that so hard to grasp?

    For someone with such strong opinions, I would think you would be aware of the political nature of this issue. I guess not. If you cannot and do not know, perhaps you should do some research before taking a stance on the issue.

    Two separate times I asked you what YOU thought, how you would answer the question, yet, you couldn’t (or wouldn’t) not very sporting of you. If you have no opinion on the matter, that’s cool, but the way you spouted off, it appeared that you did.

    And your basis for that is because other people think so too. Way to be a part of the crowd instead of thinking for yourself.

    So I start off by saying ,”IMO”, which means in my opinion, then you say I’m part of a crowd and don’t have an opinion, really?

    the better course of action would be at the closing ceremonies.

    Hey, that is the first thing you have said that makes sense, I could go for that. And at least it would be held at an Olympic event, not some men’s room or phone booth, the closing would be the proper venue for such an honor.

    As two of the three links you wanted distorted what I said

    How so? You said:

    It was not a “surprise” commemoration. It was a planned event which Israelis chose not to attend.

    And

    as one of the Israeli victims’ widow has come out and criticized Romney for not having a moment of silence during the 1992 Salt Lake Winter Olympics.

    I even gave you the benefit of the doubt by saying you are probably right, I just wanted some links to verify it.

    Don’t hold your breath.

    I won’t. I got a handle on you now, you make assertions that you can’t back up.

    As I said, I have no dog in this fight and will enjoy the games regardless. When I wrote the post I thought this was a minor controversy, still do.

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  28. Poosh

    So… what did you guys think of the whole thing?

    Were you impressed? Did you think it was amazing?

    Or should we Brits be embarrassed? In all honesty

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  29. Poosh

    Heres:

    Everyone knows that if these had been Brazilian athletes, or British athletes or Egyptian athletes or athletes from any other country on earth, the murdered victims would have been given their minute’s silence.

    But since they’re Israeli, the rules are different. To honour them would offend the sensibilities of people who want the Jewish state destroyed. And that would never do.

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  30. richtaylor365 *

    So… what did you guys think of the whole thing?

    I thought it was fine. I knew that if held to the standard of China,nothing could compare and anything would pale, but what they did even without the pageantry and scale was good.

    Being an anglophile, I liked the references they made to notable historical figures, but this could have been expounded, both in men and events. Locke, Issac Netwon, both John and Winston Churchill, Magna Carta, Mayflower Compact, English Bill of Rights, Wellington, Nelson, Pitt, Wilberforce, Darwin, Orwell, Dickens, Shakespeare, Moore, Beckett, Elizabeth, Victoria, there is no shortage of great Brits.

    I liked the Bond references, the music collage, and that cool speed boat. The fireworks display rocked.

    I think you guys dropped the ball on that goofy torch lighting. The apparatus was fine but the selection wreaked of progressivism, “We don’t want to single out any notable, that would make everyone else feel bad so we’ll just get a bunch of kids together and let them light it”, boring. Oh, and Paul McCartney, god awful, put him out to pasture for good.

    Or should we Brits be embarrassed? In all honesty

    Not at all. The perusal I did this morning of the media revealed a general consensus of ,”Well Done”.

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  31. Kimpost

    I liked the historical references, where they celebrated the industrial revolution and the emerging human rights. They even got to acknowledge unions, suffragettes and the bloody NHS(!). I was very pleasantly surprised that the Queen participated in the Bond act. But as she did, I couldn’t help myself from asking for more. She should have landed her parachute in a cloud of smoke french kissing Daniel Craig.

    The A-Z walk-in was a pain to watch. That tradition just has to go…

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  32. repmom

    The A-Z walk-in was a pain to watch. That tradition just has to go…

    No way. Just don’t watch it! Why take away such a special moment from the athletes simply because you don’t want to watch it?

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  33. richtaylor365 *

    Hey, look who popped in? How the heck are ya Repmom? You still down Houston way?

    Why take away such a special moment from the athletes simply because you don’t want to watch it?

    I like the athlete walk ins as well, the enthusiasm (most don’t medal so for the majority this is their moment in the spotlight), the costumes (Hey, CM, what was that NZ flag barer wearing, the skins of a yak gone bad? They got yaks in NZ?)

    If you want to shorten it up, next time skip the gratuitous play on socialized medicine, that was a waste.

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  34. Kimpost

    No way. Just don’t watch it! Why take away such a special moment from the athletes simply because you don’t want to watch it?

    Well, because that’s just the kind of arsehole I am. :)

    In all honesty I don’t mind much. I rarely watch the opening/closing ceremonies. I just happened to do it this time.

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  35. repmom

    Hi, Rich.

    I’m great! Yes, still in the same area. Nothing much has changed, except finally a grandmother for a year now, which is quite awesome.

    I never really left. Have continued to read, but have refrained from commenting. Got burned out, but still interested in the views of a few, like you, Hal, Section 8, Iconoclast.

    Just couldn’t resist replying to Kimpost. I love everything about the Olympics. Including the walk-ins.

    I see I need a refresher course on quoting someone’s comments. Been too long.

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  36. richtaylor365 *

    Congrats on the grand kids, life is good, glad to hear it.

    It’s nice to see some of the old guard stop by. Scary how long we have been hanging around here, time is always the enemy.

    There are regular instances where I wish I had more time and inclination to write more posts here, my life is busy as well but we keep plugging along.

    Don’t be a stranger, you were always one of my favorites.

    Well, because that’s just the kind of arsehole I am. :)

    Nothing you can’t change, with the proper motivation :)

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  37. CM

    I like the athlete walk ins as well, the enthusiasm (most don’t medal so for the majority this is their moment in the spotlight), the costumes (Hey, CM, what was that NZ flag barer wearing, the skins of a yak gone bad? They got yaks in NZ?)

    Yeah I like the walk-in too, even if half the athletes don’t attend (imagine how much longer it would be then….).

    Nick Willis was wearing a ceremonial Maori cloak.
    No yaks here. The Maori ate them all. ;-)

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  38. CM

    If you want to shorten it up, next time skip the gratuitous play on socialized medicine, that was a waste.

    I thought of you guys while that was on. I knew you’d be loving it. ;-p

    NZ’s highlight so far has been Hamish Bond and Eric Murray smashing a decade long world record by 6 seconds in the men’s pair (rowing). Our rowers are looking real good.
    Man, what happened to Phelps? Guess he’ll be looking to make up for that in a few hours from now.

    Some bits and pieces:

    * The Indian Olympic team have been left stunned after a mystery woman walked out with their team alongside the flag bearer during the Opening Ceremony. Indian team management have no idea who the woman, wearing a red jacket and blue pants, was but were told she was just meant to accompany the team to the track. Standing out against the Indian blue and yellow uniform, the woman instead walked at the front of the 81-strong contingent around the entire track.

    * A small group of protesters are marking the “anti-Games” near the London Olympic Stadium. The few hundred protesters gathered to express their opposition to everything from corporate sponsorship of the Olympics to anger about missiles positioned on the roofs of nearby apartment blocks for the Games. But after day-one of the games, media cameras were out-numbering protesters.

    * When Ryan Lochte stood on the medal podium to collect his gold, after beating Michael Phelps in the 400 individual-medley, his gold medal was not his only bling. Known for his style, Lochte also popped in his grillz – diamond-studded mouth jewellery – for the victory ceremony.

    * American women’s soccer player Hope Solo took to Twitter to berate a veteran player turned commentator Brandi Chastain. Irked by comments made during the US’s 3-0 win against Colombia, Solo made various tweets about the quality of commenting. The New York Times reported that some members of the national team chafed at the criticism they felt was directed at them by veterans of the 1999 World Cup team, such as ESPN’s Julie Foudy and Chastain.

    * A leading British bookmaker is refunding all wagers on who would light the Olympic cauldron, saying it was too tough to guess the seven young athletes who eventually lit the flame. A five-figure sum was being returned to clients.

    * London Mayor Boris Johnson dismissed suggestions by Tory MP Aidan Burley that the Olympic Games opening ceremony was “leftie multicultural” nonsense. “People say it was all leftie stuff. That is nonsense. I’m a Conservative and I had hot tears of patriotic pride from the beginning. I was blubbing like Andy Murray.”

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  39. Poosh

    London Mayor Boris Johnson is WRONG then, isn’t he. (He’s a politician, why would he admit it was bullshit propaganda, and it happened on is watch? Why would he admit he got used? Why would he admit he was a fool?)

    It was pure leftist liberal propaganda from what I’ve heard and what I saw… though Mr. Bean saved it. North Korea’s leadership probably tuned out, thinking it was heavy-handed…

    In the mean time, then NHS is killing people left, right, and centre, and is the 7th largest employer in the WORLD (3rd if you do state employment). Nothing to be proud of. And the rub? A nurse in the US can earn substantially more, yet work less hours. Brilliant!

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  40. repmom

    Man, what happened to Phelps?

    Seriously! That was horrible! Congrats to Lochte for the gold.

    Our male gymnasts looked good!

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  41. Section8

    Hey Repmom, welcome back.

    Man, what happened to Phelps?

    It’s my understanding Phelps hasn’t been putting too much effort into training and has been kinda cocky about it? I don’t know I don’t follow this a whole lot, but if true, he’ll probably lose every event and rightfully so. This will still keep him as a role model for kids as an example of what happens when you start screwing around and thinking it’s going to come to you just because you simply deserve it.

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  42. CM

    Some people see politics in everything. It’s funny, really…

    Life must be so consistently disappointing and depressing.

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  43. CM

    BTW my personal highlight from the opening ceremony was the industrial revolution – particularly those amazing chimneys, and then when they began to forge the rings, which were then hoisted up and rained down sparks etc. I found myself holding my breath.

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  44. richtaylor365 *

    As much as I liked the Americans getting a silver in the Synchronized platform diving, synchronized anything is just goofy. We should have a post on the most ridiculous sporting events at the Olympics.

    Did you guys get a look at those medals handed out? They are discuss size, good job London for not skimping on the bling.

    I was going to castigate Lolo for a pretty stupid tweet, but damn if she isn’t right.

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  45. CM

    synchronized anything is just goofy

    Completely agree, and not just because we’re useless at it ;-)

    Yeah, totally great that the medals are massive. Very noticable.

    I was going to castigate Lolo for a pretty stupid tweet, but damn if she isn’t right.

    ;-) Nice!

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  46. repmom

    A couple of days behind on watching, so just now watching the synchronized platform diving. Have to say – kind of lame, yet kind of cool at the same time. Did not need to know about their rubber ducks……

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  47. richtaylor365 *

    I really like seeing the reactions of the parents in the stands when their kids medal. This is one area where Obama is right, they did not get there by themselves.

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  48. CM

    I really like seeing the reactions of the parents in the stands when their kids medal.

    Wooah, I came to this thread to post virtually the same comment after seeing the medal ceremony for Chad Le Clos a couple of hours ago. It was lovely – he was clearly trying hard not to cry, but his Mum was bawling like a little girl in the crowd and his Dad wasn’t far behind. Brilliant.
    And here was the rest of his family back in SA before the final.

    But Michael Phelps – wow, now the all-time winner of Olympic medals with 19. Stunning.

    This is one area where Obama is right, they did not get there by themselves.

    So true (not to be an ass, but it was Romney who spoke about that with respect to Olympic atheletes).

    We picked up our first medal – bronze in the Equestrian (Team Eventing). It was Mark Todd’s fifth medal, putting him equal first in terms of NZ’s most decorated Olympian (equal with canoeists Ian Ferguson and Paul MacDonald). He was also sitting in 3rd place in the individual competition until the last ride, which would have given him a sixth, but it wasn’t to be.

    Rowing is still our best hope with most crews through to the semifinals (and most of them should make the final, and hopefully we’ll pick up 4 of 5 medals, with at least 2 or 3 being gold).

    France have looked good in the pool.

    The sport I’ve been enjoying more than I thought I would is Archery.

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