Don’t Touch That Horse

You know, I give up. The people in this Administration are just fucking stupid:

A proposal from the Obama administration to prevent children from doing farm chores has drawn plenty of criticism from rural-district members of Congress. But now it’s attracting barbs from farm kids themselves.

The Department of Labor is poised to put the finishing touches on a rule that would apply child-labor laws to children working on family farms, prohibiting them from performing a list of jobs on their own families’ land.

Under the rules, children under 18 could no longer work “in the storing, marketing and transporting of farm product raw materials.”

It would also replace the FFA’s and 4-H’s programs with a government program. Last year, I went to a fair in central Pennsylvania where livestock were displayed and sold. I was very impressed by the young kids who were able to manage, raise and sell animals. If I understand this regulation correctly, that would stop. And so would some of the charm of the fair.

I could get deep into how deeply stupid this is or how this is not some modern version of child slavery but that’s playing Hilda Solis’ game. The underlying principle is that what children do on the farms is not the government’s fucking business. It’s certainly not the business of the Feds. And even it were, it would be the business of the Department of Agriculture, where there’s a reasonable chance the bureaucrats and the secretary have seen an actual cow or at least know what one looks like.

Maybe there is some thought behind this, but it sounds an awful lot like some city slicker suddenly found out that — heavens to besty! — some kids in rural areas have chores and do work.

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  1. Hal_10000 *

    I couldn’t find it but this post reminded me of a time back on the old blog when NativeSon said he was going out to slaughter a hog and Lee said it was the coolest thing that had ever been said in the comments.

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  2. Dick Fitzwell

    What’s next? Is the gov’t going to say that suburban children shouldn’t be washing the dishes, taking out the trash or mowing the lawn?

    I can’t wait for my son to turn 18 so he can finally make his own bed.

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  3. Hal_10000 *

    What this rule supposedly does is restrict child labor from hazardous things like “storing, marketing and transporting of farm product raw materials”. It is also has a ban on electronics (i.e., texting) and operating arm equipment. But it’s way too broad. Anything that says, “we can do better than 4-H” is dumb. My mother and uncle grew up on a farm, milking cows at down, feeding chickens, etc. The also never missed school and got advanced degrees in medicine. The idea that farm work was exploiting them in insane.

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  4. Seattle Outcast

    It’s a cheap, poorly-designed tactic to increase the demand for immigrant labor to work in agriculture. It has absolutely nothing to do with preventing dangerous child labor practices.

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  5. JimK

    It’s a cheap, poorly-designed tactic to increase the demand for immigrant labor to work in agriculture. It has absolutely nothing to do with preventing dangerous child labor practices.

    I thought that same thing. I’m sure some would call us paranoid, but someone out there is thinking about social engineering when they create this kind of shit.

    Besides, it’s not paranoia when they’re actually out to get you.

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  6. Miguelito

    It would also replace the FFA’s and 4-H’s programs with a government program.

    I think that’s the other key part… more growth and control from gov’t. From the article:

    would also revoke the government’s approval of safety training and certification taught by independent groups like 4-H and FFA, replacing them instead with a 90-hour federal government training course.

    There’s some job creation and more fees to collect right there! Bonus.

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  7. Seattle Outcast

    There’s some job creation and more fees to collect right there! Bonus.

    You’re thinking too small. This is a path to licensing, accrediting, and unionizing farmers.

    No federal training? Too bad, you can’t raise cattle. Also, don’t exceed your quota or the EPA will be after you.

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  8. Hal_10000 *

    Libs are defending this, quoting labor department’s clams. As if fed rules are never over-applied. The organizations responding to this are not known or their hysteria.

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  9. Poosh

    I’m sure there are some scum who use their kids as labourers, and abuse them. And this will not change things at all.

    But for the majority, this is straight forward transferable skills and preparation for the job-market. This is exactly the kind of foundation that propels you way ahead of the rest. Many parents know this.

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  10. sahrab

    It would also replace the FFA’s and 4-H’s programs with a government program.

    4-H is one of the only, state sponsored (4-H is funded by the county at least in Maryland), organizations that still teach firearm safety/use/marksmanship for youth. Whats the chances that the 90-hour federal government training course will cover that?

    The other thing thats a farce, the 4-H and FFA programs are run by local people (typically parents). Both 4-H and FFA are tailored for the locality. Because of this, the locals also know what works localy. This doesnt just mean what kind of crop/livestock will thrive in the area (a very important aspect) but also how to deal with issues inherit to the local area. This can be everything from how to operate machinery, safely, in the terrain they will be actually dealing with, to how to handle livestock in humid weather (attitude will be drastically different), to dealing with keeping pest animals (possums, coons, skunks) out of the feedstock (the feces of many pest animals can carry diseases that can/will transfer to livestock).

    A federal training program will dillute this training, as it will have to go over all aspects to those issues and not the specific ones the kids can face. After 90 hours of training whats the likelyhood of them retaining information about their local area after they’ve been inundated with information related to areas that do not pertain to them? IOW what will the kids remember about Maryland issues after being told about Florida, Montana, Washington and New Mexico issues.

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  11. AlexInCT

    What’s next? Is the gov’t going to say that suburban children shouldn’t be washing the dishes, taking out the trash or mowing the lawn?

    Stop giving them ideas.

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  12. HARLEY

    I couldn’t find it but this post reminded me of a time back on the old blog when NativeSon said he was going out to slaughter a hog and Lee said it was the coolest thing that had ever been said in the comments.

    Not to be a bragger, but i think that was my comment.. feed my song and go slaughter hogs.
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    as for the proposed law…. fuckem.. this is the kind of insane shit that is designed to destroy the rural culture of America…

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  13. Hal_10000 *

    Not to be a bragger, but i think that was my comment.. feed my song and go slaughter hogs.
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    Yeah, maybe it was. Still can’t find it.

    Labor has now folded in response to criticism. This woudl no have banned kids working on their parents’ farms. But it would have made things dicey for corporate or relatives.

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  14. West Virginia Rebel

    Well, it appears they’ve backed down. Even so, between this and the EPA comparing themselves to the Roman Empire (for which the government drone who said it also apologized) you really have to wonder just where the parody ends and the real thing begins with this crowd.

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  15. NativeSon

    I’m still here and I’m still butchering wild hogs! Although this weekend I got me some bow fishing to do! I’ll be slaughtering me some fish with my recurve and some arrows!

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  16. HARLEY

    I’m still here and I’m still butchering wild hogs! Although this weekend I got me some bow fishing to do! I’ll be slaughtering me some fish with my recurve and some arrows!

    hey man, glad to see you are still alive, hows it hanging?

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  17. NativeSon

    Hey Harley. I been keeping busy with work. I’ve been working for a school district so things will slow down for me come summer. Still haven’t got that pistol yet but I checked out the site you told me about. Thank you for the tip.

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