A Piece of Advice

Dear Democratic Party. Don’t attack Ann Romney. Not only is it totally not cool, you’re messing with someone who raised five kids, kicked breast cancer’s ass and is currently beating multiple sclerosis. She will bury you and you will look like the assholes. You’ve built a big polling lead with your “War on Women” rhetoric. You don’t really want to piss it away by attacking a Romney the American people might actually like, do you? Women will put up with a lot of your bullshit, but they won’t put up with this.

No matter how much the conservative movement might drift from me, I don’t think the liberal movement will ever drift toward me. I’m just not dumb enough.

Update: Rosen first doubled down then issued a non-apology apology. She says this is all a distraction.

She’s right. It’s a distraction … from the failure of the Democrats. However much they might support abortion rights, they oppose the freedom of women to do just about anything else. And if she wants to get into Romney’s gender record at Bain, let’s get into Obama’s gender record in the White House right now.

Neither of our parties is interested in the fate of women once they’re outside the voting booth. Let’s quit pretending that they are.

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  1. CM

    Super-dumb comment indeed. Is there any evidence that this is an orchestrated campaign? it would be a ridiculously stupid campaign if it was one.

    …issued a non-apology apology….

    That does look like an apology to me. Well as much as you’re ever going to get in politics anyway.

    “Let’s put the faux “war against stay at home moms” to rest once and for all. As a mom I know that raising children is the hardest job there is. As a pundit, I know my words on CNN last night were poorly chosen. In response to Mitt Romney on the campaign trail referring to his wife as a better person to answer questions about women than he is, I was discussing his lack of a record on the plight of women’s financial struggles. Here is my more fulsome view of the issues. As a partner in a firm full of women who work outside of the home as well as stay at home mothers, all with plenty of children, gender equality is not a talking point for me. It is an issue I live every day. I apologize to Ann Romney and anyone else who was offended. Let’s declare peace in this phony war and go back to focus on the substance.”

    The “here is my more fulsome view” links to:
    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/12/opinion/ann-romney-hilary-rosen/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

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  2. Hal_10000 *

    The thing is, Rosen’s a PR flack. It’s her job to think about how her comments may be reframed by her political opponents. I’m not OUTRAGEOUSLY OUTRAGED about it. I just think it’s dumb. And no, I don’t think it’s a coordinated campaign. I think the Democrats will learn, quite quickly, not to attack Ann.

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  3. CM

    And if she wants to get into Romney’s gender record at Bain, let’s get into Obama’s gender record in the White House right now.

    Are they comparing pay rates for the same jobs though? Not clear from the Daily Mail piece. If most of the top people are men, then it makes sense that overall men get paid more than women.

    The thing is, she’s a PR flack. It’s her job to think about how her comments may be reframed by her political opponents. I’m not OUTRAGEOUSLY OUTRAGED about it. I just think it’s dumb. And no, I don’t think it’s a coordinated campaign. I think the Democrats will learn, quite quickly, not to attack her.

    Yeah for a PR/strategy person, it was really dumb. Perhaps she and the Etch A Sketch genius should set up their own company….not sure why they’re still working in their current jobs. Imagine if we all did the equivalent?

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  4. Hal_10000 *

    Turns out, that may not even have been the dumbest thing she said (http://tinyurl.com/7rjv5je).

    DaveD, I will note that having a beer with Obama would be easier since he’d no doubt order some cheap macrobrew to shore up his support in Missouri. I don’t have a problem with either of them personally. Politically … oh boy.

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  5. hist_ed

    That does look like an apology to me. Well as much as you’re ever going to get in politics anyway.

    Quick defend the liberal!!!

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  6. Dave D

    Hal: I couldn’t sit in the same room with a man that sat in Jeremiah Wright’s church every Sunday for 20 years, then denies believing what he preaches. It’s definitely personal. You have awfully lax standards, imo.

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  7. CM

    Quick defend the liberal!!!

    So you are going down that path after all. That’s pretty sad. I quoted the apology. I qualfied my statement. I didn’t just take a knee-jerk position, I provided a qualified comment after looking at the primary evidence.

    However, apparently because Hal doesn’t call liberals stupid enough times, he’s must be in love with Obama? Why don’t you go after the lack of logic and rationality behind that silliness instead?
    Honestly, it’s like Hal is provided with a little bit of leash but everytime he dares offer something not on the script (you know, independent thought, something not black and white) he must be pulled back into line. And then invariably his next posts head back towards claiming liberals are all morons or evil, presumbly so he doesn’t lose cred and is thrown under a bus (I’ve obviously breached some threshold, I can’t imagine what happens to traitors). And I’m not alone in noticing.

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  8. Mississippi Yankee

    Super-dumb comment indeed. Is there any evidence that this is an orchestrated campaign? it would be a ridiculously stupid campaign if it was one.

    And no, I don’t think it’s a coordinated campaign. I think the Democrats will learn, quite quickly, not to attack Ann.

    Although it’s not surprising you two are on the same page but Hilary Rosen does have a rather lengthy history with the White House. At least 35 visits …and counting.

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  9. Seattle Outcast

    Are they comparing pay rates for the same jobs though?

    Funny you should bring that up. There have been a variety of studies on the “gender pay gap” and they all come to one conclusion: it doesn’t exist.

    Once hours worked and continual time on the job are factored in, men and women make almost exactly the same for the same job. The gender pay differences are accounted for by career and lifestyle choices that man and women make as a whole – women take time out from their careers to raise kids, and generally don’t put in the same hours that men do.

    Put simply, pay is a function of total hours worked. Men work more hours, so they get paid more. To insist that a woman who took five years off from working, in addition to putting in far fewer hours during her active years than the men she competed with for those jobs, is paid the same is not only stupid, it’s insulting to those that earned their pay scales.

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  10. Kimpost

    Poor choice of words. She’s being eaten by the bus, and democrats would like it if it just went away. It won’t. Ann Romney has responded, and will respond some more. A small deal has become big, it was inevitable. Had it been the other way around, democrats would have done the same.

    I saw Greta on Fox News yesterday. Rosen’s a friend of hers and she was debating the remarks with Karl Rove. The thing I liked about it was how Greta, who’s normally a right leaning pundit, came of as quite sensible. It’s similar to when Ann Coulter defends Bill Maher. Friendship brings out the understanding of shades of gray in people. I like that.

    Greta vs. Karl Rove

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  11. AlexInCT

    Super-dumb comment indeed. Is there any evidence that this is an orchestrated campaign? it would be a ridiculously stupid campaign if it was one.

    Oh, it was orchestrated. After the last election and the coordination revelations about Journolist members, the Media Maters attack on people like Limbaugh and anyone daring to point out the emperor has no clothes, the recent faux contraceptive exchange where a 30 year old activists pretended she was just a simple college undergrad struggling to make ends, and the coordinated attempt to pretend republicans hate women we know as the whole “War on Women” nonsense that every narrative seems to be driving, I am inclined to believe this was part of the plan. Like most of the other stuff, once you get the details and think it through, you see it is bullshit and grand standing by the left.

    Obama can not have this election be about what they have achieved/done or the economy. So we get stupid stories like this and the whole Martin/Zimmerman ordeal intended to distract the peasants while making the right look bad/dumb/evil.

    But you and Hal are welcome to keep believing this Rosen character that every democrat operative is now trying to disassociate themselves from – the throwing under the bus analogy – after making some 35 visits to the Obama WH, more than Panetta at the CIA or Petraeus when he was in charge of things military have done combined, I add this for some serious perspective, is just a rogue agent and this wasn’t all part and parcel of the Wasserman-Shultz – WH coordinated “War on Women” cabal. For whatever reason or to justify whatever illusion you want to maintain that these scumbags aren’t about keeping the power above all else.

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  12. Kimpost

    Seems like an awfully stupid thing to do, especially for something orchestrated. Doesn’t make much sense, unless the plan was to lose support.

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  13. AlexInCT

    Seems like an awfully stupid thing to do, especially for something orchestrated. Doesn’t make much sense, unless the plan was to lose support.

    You are coming to this conclusion in hindsight, Kimpost. I believe that’s because you lack the benefit of seeing these people in action from my perspective. I bet my ass they role played this all out and actually believed there was no way anyone could turn this on them, because as usual, their ingrained biases and closed circles never exposed them to the way others would see it. The last three years are replete with examples of the highest people on the left making this sort of ridiculous miscalculations because it played perfectly within their circles where nobody could think outside the box.

    I could go into details, but it would take forever. However, take a look at how many times the WH has tried to coordinate the narrative and failed. They tried it against Fox News and bombed. They did it against Limbaugh and bombed about a half dozen times, including the latest one with Fluke. Heck, Obama and the left are blowing a fuse right now because even the libs on the SCOTUS had to do an obvious dance around the whole Obamacare mandate’s unconstitutionality, simply because in their echo chambers they had convinced each other this thing was going to be declared constitutional because they wanted it to be so! We have Obama trying to intimidate the SCOTUS Chicago-style, now that he was told this thing was going down in flames, because the echo chamber left them thinking that simply because they wanted it to work, it would.

    And did you miss the first year or so of Team Obama accusing anyone that dared question them or point out how disconnected and stupid their policies and actions where of being racists? What do you think the hoobaloo about Zimmerman shooting Martin really is about? They are going to the tried and true things that fire up the base and work well with the people that get their news from comedians like Letterman, Steward, or the news segments at CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN.

    The stupid thing said by Rosen was another salvo in the whole “War on Women” campaign they fired at Romney to silence his wife, and to do so as soon as possible. Lacking any substantive economic or otherwise policy to run on, the left has decided to go for the tried and true. They see Ann Romney as extremely dangerous considering their most recent campaign strategy revolves on bamboozling as many women as possible to vote for them by pretending the other side hates women. If she comes out and shows women voters that she isn’t either an oppressed baby maker, kept barefoot in the kitchen and pregnant, or a rich pampered and disconnected women – and have no doubt that a combination of the two was what Rosen was trying to drive the female voter block to accept Romney as – and the women vote swings by even 5%, then Team Obama is going to be in bigger trouble than it already is.

    Occam’s Razor: desperation and close-mindedness, both in abundance for Team Obama right now, explains this perfectly. I expect a lot more of it. They are however starting to realize that the LSM can not cover for them as good as it did during the last election though. I bet they double down on the stupid instead of actually reassessing how bad they have made things. It’s their SOP.

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  14. Kimpost

    In my view Ann Romney had no message to sell. None, until the Democrats provided her with this one. I’m not suggesting that the administration hasn’t discussed and agreed upon a strategy of highlighting “the Republican war on women”, but I do think that the attack on Ann Romney happened out of a mistake. A slip of the tongue. It’s too stupid to have been planned. There’s just no way that it could have worked out for them. Unlike the Fluke debacle, which I think that the Democrats won. In the eyes of women at least.

    That’s my opinion. I got yours. We’ll just have to agree to disagree. :)

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  15. Mississippi Yankee

    The thing I liked about it was how Greta, who’s normally a right leaning pundit, came of as quite sensible.

    Kim, she wasn’t nearly as right leaning back when she was with CNN. But then again she wasn’t nearly as good looking then…

    Oh and until I read the Mail.Online headlines (my source for right wing news in Merry ol’ England) I didn’t know Hilary Rosen was a “lesbian democrat operative” either.
    It’s good to expand ones horizons.

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