Bill Maher Is (Still) An Arrogant Liberal Troll

So this aired on his show. Liberals, if you want to know why a lot of conservatives don’t like you, watch this and watch the reaction to it. Do you really wonder why people won’t vote for arrogant condescending twerps who look down on them?

Let’s set aside the condescending attitude toward the South and what was unquestionably a cherry-picked sample. Maher and his defenders are claiming the point of this is the old “What’s the Matter with Kansas” theme: they are wondering why people in Mississippi vote against their supposed economic interests. In their world, the poor people of Mississippi should be supporting massive welfare spending and gigantic tax hikes on rich people. And they would, were it not for the Republicans bamboozling them into voting on morality and religion. And now that Obama is President, their racism has only exacerbated this disconnect.

Bullshit.

I have always despised the “Kansas question” because it fundamentally assumes that all poor people should have the same approach to politics: a burning desire to plunder their neighbors. It would never even occur to Bill Maher and Pelosi Junior that some people in this world, despite poverty, might see socialism as wrong and immoral. That they would rather be poor than rich on the backs of others. That they would rather live in a free market that gives them affordable goods and the chance, however small, of success than live in an unfree market that guarantees poverty. The manifest failures of socialism have obscured an important truth about it: socialism doesn’t just not work, it is immoral. It destroys the moral core of a nation, rots out its industry and replaces independence with dependence. Maybe you have to be a “dumb, uneducated southern hick” to understand this fundamental truth.

Aside from that, Maher manages, in a span of about 30 seconds, to spew an astonishing volume of economic, political and historical illiteracy. The idea that we do not already live in a heavily socialistic society is ridiculous. A massive fraction of federal and state spending is wealth transfer. Government pays over half the healthcare bills. Since the 1960′s, we have spent trillions fighting poverty. Under the evil poor-hating George W. Bush, taxes on poor people were reduce to zero or negative rates.

Socialist paradise? We already live in one. And here’s the thing. Look at those people and those homes. Does it look like our rampant socialism is doing them any good?

The most successful anti-poverty program of the last 50 years was the Republican-led and Clinton-signed welfare reform of the mid-90′s. It saw the first serious drop in poverty since we began the “War on Poverty” and moved millions from dependence to work. And liberal fucktards like Maher opposed it vehemently. They denounced it as a plot by uncaring Republicans to leave people starving in the streets.

Maher also manages to forget that Southerners voted almost exclusively Democrat for 120 years. From the end of the Civil War to the mid-90′s, the South was a uniform block of Democratic voters. It was the Southern hatred of Republicans that enabled the creation of the New Deal and the Great Society. Fat lot of good their unwavering support did them.

Maher mocks one of the interviewees for saying the voting for Republicans might work someday. What a stupid thing for him to chortle about. Liberals like Maher have been making that excuse for socialism and anti-free-market ideology for half a century.

You want to help poor people? Break the education monopoly that condemns them to bad schools. End corporate welfare and regulatory capture that empower politically-connected business to steamroll the rights of poorer citizens through atrocities like eminent domain. Break the hyper-regulations that close off industries to competition (watch Stossel’s doc below on taxi medallions or read up on CPSIA). And overhaul our tax system so that jobs can be brought back to or created in this country.

But let’s not sit in our comfy studios and analyze poor Southerners like they are some species of unevolved ape. That might make someone feel good about himself. But I think he already feels way better about himself than he deserves.

  1. I must admit that that’s the sentiment in Sweden as well. When analyzing US election results we tend to highlight how the “intellectual” parts of America tends to vote Democrat. If it’s not directly about democrats, then it’s about homophobia, racism or gender discrimination. The coasts are just “more intellectual”. That’s the highly simplified generalizations we live with here. In defense of the generalizations I’ll have to say that it’s not all about bias (Obama isn’t God here), it’s more about media and people being interested in things we find different, like the death penalty, gun rights, religion and universal healthcare.

    Regarding your point, Hal, I’m afraid it also cuts both ways. We seem to love the polarization. It’s equally boring to read/hear how liberals vote themselves to other peoples money. I have never voted with my wallet, ever. I don’t think I even know anyone who does. I always vote for what I think would be best for society, and I think that is what most of us do. My wallet frankly ranks very low on my list of priorities when I decide which party to support.

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  2. I can’t tell if he was being tongue-in-cheek or not when he repeated the lie that it wasn’t cherry picked.

    A peasant is a peasant. No matter WHERE he or she comes from. Why act surprised when they demonstrate their stupidity. They can be manipulated into thinking anything given you can appeal to their psychology or self-interest. This has more to do with genetics than anything else. You can find equally stupid underclass people in any country.

    I do have to say, the racist guy did show more knowledge than (most) liberals when he pointed out Obama was a halfbreed. He is correct. Obama isn’t black – in that he’s no more black than white. At least this chump had the brains to draw that distinction.

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  3. In modern usage, the word “intellectual” means “Marxist”

    Just sit back and watch for verification.

    My “oh shit! they were right!” moment came when I met my wife’s idiot cousin, the Marxist economics “expert” for the UN that was constantly referred to (in awed, hushed tones) by his family as “an intellectual” because he “spends all his time thinking.” This is the same branch of the family that Marcos had jailed on numerous occasions, and I personally would have had shot for treason, so you have to take that into consideration.

    That he’s a moron is beyond question – he’s one step away from picking his nose at the dinner table and appears incapable of functioning in society without his mother nearby (he’s nearly 60). And he comes from money – only people that don’t have to work for a living can afford to be a commie.

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  4. Nice post Hal, and I appreciate Kimpost being honest about European attitudes, which seem to be consistent with US liberal attitudes toward conservatives. Except that I never hear the “liberals are more intellectual” crowd square that condescending worldview with the fact that the Democrats’ most reliable most solid voting block are those living in low income, uneducated, largely illiterate inner city ghettos and slums. The average Democrat-voting ghetto-dweller makes most of the rednecks in that clip look like intellectual giants in comparison.

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  5. I must admit that that’s the sentiment in Sweden as well. When analyzing US election results we tend to highlight how the “intellectual” parts of America tends to vote Democrat. If it’s not directly about democrats, then it’s about homophobia, racism or gender discrimination.

    True, the coasts tend to vote Democrat. I’m not sure it makes them anymore intellectual than anyone else. These areas have managed to spend themselves into such debt they need bailouts from the everyone else. but your line

    If it’s not directly about democrats, then it’s about homophobia, racism or gender discrimination.

    is pretty typical punch in punch out robot output. Translated it means… You might be concerned Obama care, for example, will end up like every other government program? A big bureaucratic over priced mess that solves nothing? Why, no need to discus why you might feel that way. No need to discuss any history or previous programs, no need to discuss any favoritism or cronyism that’s bound to pop up, let’s just call you racist and sexist and be done with it. The hallmark of all deep thoughts from the “intellectual” left.

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  6. I always vote for what I think would be best for society, and I think that is what most of us do. My wallet frankly ranks very low on my list of priorities when I decide which party to support.

    To the American left, “best for society” means voting the wallet of other people.

    If you want to start a fight, start discussing what is “best for society” and see how divergent the opinions get before the guns come out.

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  7. I must admit that that’s the sentiment in Sweden as well. When analyzing US election results we tend to highlight how the “intellectual” parts of America tends to vote Democrat. If it’s not directly about democrats, then it’s about homophobia, racism or gender discrimination.

    True, the coasts tend to vote Democrat. I’m not sure it makes them anymore intellectual than anyone else.

    It doesn’t. In fact I can show you that it makes them the dumber areas of the country, and do so easily. It’s definitely not the intellectual and better educated people in these blue states on “the coasts” that vote for democrats and get them the constant win: it’s the massive vote count from the major urban areas, where the disproportionally uneducated and easily duped poor live and make up the bulk of the population, that does so, and does so constantly. And let us not kid ourselves; they do it for the handouts.

    These massive urban population areas that override the vote of the rest of the sane people tend to be the least educated, easily manipulated, are always looking for other people to give them handouts, and contains that segment of the population with the largest amount of people prone to making the dumbest and worst choices in life. Look at the voting pattern for every one of these coastal blue states, but especially NY and CA, and you will see that the big block of the vote count that helps democrats win, comes from their big cities – like NYC, LA, San Diego and San Fran – overwhelming all other precincts. In the less urban and better off areas of those blue coastal states, where you are far more likely to find better educated and more productive people, the votes tend to either be more evenly split amongst the parties, or steer far more to the right than otherwise.

    Ask anyone living in NY state or CA that isn’t living in one of the big cities or part of the usual circle of lefty voters, and they will tell you their votes are constantly overridden by people voting their self interest, even when those interests are devastating and have their state on the road to becoming Greece, like is happening in NY and CA, where the massive quantity of “free” social engineering handouts and massive state promised benefits unions get when negotiating across the table with people they have bought & paid for, happens. The Greeks BTW, figured out over 3 millennia ago that democracy’s downfall was when the lazy and dumb in the populous figured out they could use the politicians to raid the state coffers. And I know Illinois isn’t on the coast, but ask them why their state is imploding and they will point towards Chicago, where I should remind everyone the current “genius” in the WH cut his political teeth.

    This myth that the blue states are blue because more intellectuals live there and vote for the left is nonsense of the worst kind. I live in CT, and some of the dumbest people I have ran across ever, live here and they are hard core blue voters. This myth of blue state intellectual superiority is part & parcel of the same dumb propaganda that tries to pretend people living in fly over country or in the southern states are stupid. If you look at those areas you will see the same pattern I mention there too: the least educated and the ones prone to the worst & most destructive choices, live in urban areas where they account for the majority, if not all, of the votes that go to democrats.

    And SO is right on: the most troubling problem I see is that intellectual has become synonymous with marxist. The whole command economy bullshit has been proven unworkable, yet here our marxist elite in the West are, ignoring a century of proof that’s the case, and trying to do it, because they have the right credentials. Fucking idiots the lot of them.

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  8. If you want to start a fight, start discussing what is “best for society” and see how divergent the opinions get before the guns come out.

    Well, of course, otherwise everybody would agree with me.

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  9. I don’t know if I made myself clear enough, but I don’t agree with the intellectual myth. Not that I would agree with Alex on his 180 degree turn of the myth either. In 2008 Obama beat McCain 55-45 among college graduates.

    Gallup

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  10. I look forward to their followup “urban” video, which Maher even said was sure to happen, so it must be true right. I’m sure they’ll go to Detroit, a shining beacon of Democrat rule. I’m sure they’ll show all the abandoned homes, buildings and rundown homes people still live in there. I’m sure it’ll have background music something like “Fuck the Police” or maybe even an old spiritual (gotta try to match that streoeotypical cover of Dixie partly on banjo they used in this one, right?). It’ll be just as “honest” without any cherry picking either.. right?

    Oops.. forgot to mention, I’m sure they’ll show the people answering questions about how they vote for Democrats because the Dems are helping them improve their lives. Which is clear by the state of Detroit today.

    We can start the pool on when that one comes out now.

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  11. In 2008 Obama beat McCain 55-45 among college graduates.

    A college education doesn’t mean that much anymore – when you can get a degree in “Womyns’ Studies” and the like, and 60% of the public has secondary education, it is not a meaningful metric.

    Like as not, your typical college grad in the US is working at Starbucks while they determine that a degree in Theater isn’t going to actually make a rich movie star. Short version – while 100 years ago only 6% of the American public went to college, that actually meant something.

    Right now a lot of college graduates are evidence of the theory that a lot of people have received an education that they are incapable of comprehending, and it has given them an undeserved superiority complex. Bill Maher is a prime example of this.

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  12. In 2008 Obama beat McCain 55-45 among college graduates.

    What are we supposed to infer from this? Are you saying that college graduates are smarter then non graduates? Are they better critical thinkers? Does a college degree make someone a better voter? Does it give someone a better handle on societal problems? Are you saying that a vote from a college graduate is a better informed/better applied vote then say a non college graduate?

    You think maybe they are more monolithic (like the black vote) because of who they surround themselves with? It is no mystery that the college student that is liberal fits in better with academia, fits in better with his professors and his fellow students, will probably get better grades (no snooty commie professor wants his curriculum challenged)and will be more embraced by the prevailing political thinking.

    But I would posit that the guy (non college grad) that had to, by whatever circumstances he faced, get a job, pay taxes, live on his own, understand that whole “delaying of gratification so I can pay the utility bill” dynamic has a much better/more realistic understanding on budgets/debt /entitlements/stimulus spending/ and electing those officials that will best spend (or save) his hard earned tax dollars. Some guy living in the real world, or some guy that just spent 4 plus years in academia and has 50 grand in student loan debt right off the bat, which guy’s eyes are more wide open?

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  13. I’m not using the “educated elite” argument. I just wanted to point out that I find Alex reversed use of it equally wrong, and irrelevant. Plenty of smart people vote democrat. Plenty of stupid people vote democrat. The same goes for republicans.

    We can all posit lots if things, but at the end of the day I would expect diversity. You only got two parties, after all.

    P.S. Rain in Indian Wells?

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  14. To the American left, “best for society” means voting the wallet of other people.

    In other words, “For the greater good” usually means “For your own good”.

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  15. You only got two parties, after all

    Not really true, and the two major parties have a lot of flavors.

    Republican – evangelical/big government (aka the old Christian Socialist Party), Reagan/Goldwater conservatives, “neo-cons”, RINO moderates, would-be Libertarians

    Democrat – “progressives”, euro-socialists, enviro-socialists, UN appeasers, old-time Ted Kennedy liberals, elitist academics, former hippies/terroristists, Fatso Moore, Blue-Dog moderates, various minority racist groups

    Libertarian – former Republicans, nutjob isolationists

    Green – ecoterrorists, psychiatric patients

    Socialist – at least 5 different parties

    Marxist – at least 3 different parties

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  16. I don’t know if I made myself clear enough, but I don’t agree with the intellectual myth. Not that I would agree with Alex on his 180 degree turn of the myth either.

    II understood what you meant Kimpost, and my response was not towards you, but towards the people that propagate the myth. Even the democrats know about the votes coming from the big cities, and politically target it, but pretend otherwise. You should google the urban vote thing and you will see that what i am saying is not a myth but well documented.

    In 2008 Obama beat McCain 55-45 among college graduates.

    Most people coming out of colleges these days are dumber than a rock. If you want proof find out how many of them put themselves tens of thousands of dollars in debt getting worthless degrees that will never allow them to make enough money. Seriously Kimpost, did you miss the point made by others and myself that attending college today basically leads to marxist beliefs and that somehow is conflated with intelligence? The left seems to confuse credentials, which is what going to college equates to for too many people, with intelligence. Some of the dumbest people I have interacted with where going to college, and some of the dumbest people I know expect you to take seriously the stupid shit they say simply because they went to college. Many of these bozos even have masters degrees or higher in completely meaningless fields, along with hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt I should add, and feel entitled and angry because nobody else sees their brilliance. Personally, as someone that did attend college, I reflexively think people that tell me they went to college are idiots until they prove otherwise. And you are correct: Obama got all the votes from the womyn studies and other such worthless degreed people for sure. That however doesn’t mean he got the vote of intelligent people at all considering anyone that wastes their time with this stuff has to be a few beer cans short of a full case.

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  17. I’m not using the “educated elite” argument. I just wanted to point out that I find Alex reversed use of it equally wrong, and irrelevant.

    Except for the fact that the statistics are out there to prove my point – Google it.- whereas it is easy as hell to debunk the myth that blue states are blue because there are so many intelligent people voting for democrats, which inherently means that red states are red because the hicks and dumbasses outvote the smart democrats. That’s don with the same statistics that back up the fact that the blue states are blue because of the moocher vte in the big cities.

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  18. Goddam am I late to this party!

    I am what’s locally referred to as a “damn yankee”, that is a northerner that came here and refused to leave. Most southerners say it affectionally tho.
    Because of this I feel a need to defend my new home (18 years and counting)

    Ms Pelosi jr. has admitted these clips were take within a few miles from Jackson MS (pop 78% black, 51% female) and Boloxi MS (39% black, 53% female).
    With the exception of a couple ‘homeys’ moving someones couch did you see any black folks? Yet Mississippi has the largest per capita black population in America, at 37%. This is increasing everyday because of the total collapse of jobs in the Rust Belt especially Detroit. They’re all coming home. Where are they???

    And wimmins, we have some of the most beautiful, and friendliest woman-folk in the world. Not even bare-foot and pregnant ones were shown. How come?

    I won’t deny there are houses similar to what this bint showed, hell in 18 years I’ve seen probably a dozen or so. That’s in the entire state!

    One last state fact – Mississippi Medical Center performed the first human lung transplant in Jackson, Mississippi in 1964.

    Anyone that took that propaganda piece of dreck seriously is dishonest in the least and possibly unstable at best.

    Kimpost-

    In 2008 Obama beat McCain 55-45 among college graduates.

    Could these college grads also be the main vanguard of the “Occupy Every-fucking-Where movement we’ve seen this past seven months?

    To address the intellect of the two coasts. The east and left coast states are so far in debt that some will never see the fiscal light of day. All due to progressive tax and spend policies.
    Mississippi, by the way, may be the poorest state (per capita income) but we will be debt free within seven years. OTOH California, New York, etc… not so much.

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  19. Not really true, and the two major parties have a lot of flavors.

    SO I think your premise and break-down is spot on.

    Recently I read somewhere

    “America has a two party system… and we sorely need a second party”

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  20. MY, agreed. I lived in Biloxi when I was very little and my dad was active Air Force. I’ve stayed in or dined in a lot of little towns on my way to and from Texas and Louisiana. This video is *not* representative of the people I met.

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  21. Pelosi came out with part 2, which I think is equally unfair to Obama voters. Maher makes an even bigger ass out himself with his arrogance. And Pelosi makes an even bigger ass out of herself claiming that defense spending is the same as welfare.

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  22. My favorite part is when Maher says he can’t be racist because he donated money to Obama. And she can’t be racist because her mother is he former Speaker.

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  23. Liberals are by far the most racist sorts.

    So called redneck racists – I guarantee you – can be changed, often their “racism” is inauthentic. I saw a documentary about America’s biggest racist. Louis Theroux was presenting and he went to the racist home and got to the heart of his so-called racism. America’s biggest redkneck racist was borrowing and lending stuff to his neighbor ….. who was black.

    Liberals on the other hand – many of them – are invested, and believe, in making and strengthening ethnic groups and essentialising them. Black community. Latin community. These are by definition racist concepts (simply imagine the converse: “white community” BINGO) yet the left thrive on them – they thrive on destroying the idea of an individual, and replacing them with “communites” etc which dictate identity. Conveniently, they allow one to rack up their votes more effectively.

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  24. Wow………. What a fucking twat.
    As for the claims of racism and redneck culture crap, yeah, you have people like that… but the vast majority of us rednecks, are nothing like that, if we were… Maher, would be swinging rope.

    A few years back a very good friend of mine stated dating a collage educated liberal chick, you know the type, she’s womyn, lib, smarter and better than you… oh and from Illinois, which automatically makes her better than a Missourian.

    I was very amused when i did not meet her knuckle dragging, Budweiser drinking, inbred, dumb hick, expectations… she was quite shocked! .. but the initial attitude she had, really pissed me off.
    but that is something i have come to expect… IF you are not from the urban areas or from a largely “blue” area, then you are all of the above, that i mentioned…..

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  25. OT but has anyone watched Homeland ??

    On ep 4 in the UK here … I just noticed Bush is absent from the start credits … should I be concerned? It’s been great so far,…

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  26. Poosh, I noticed that too. It was several weeks into the series before that fact hit me.

    Yet the most disturbing thing, for me, was discovering last night on The Graham Norton Show, that Damien Lewis is a Brit. Why is it that “you people” can pull off an American accent so much better that visa-versa?

    Damn good show there wot? See?

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  27. Damien Lewis was Captain Mutha Fucking Winters in Band of Brothers!

    Also, spot Simon Pegg in Band of Brothers (with a terrible US accent I believe ha ha)

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