Tax payers been had again.

At a time when Team Blue is working hard to cut defense spending, it should come as a surprise that this administration is making our overworked, under paid, and stretched military pay too much for feul so a politically connected cronie can rake in the cash. If this was a republican president this would be a 24/7 scandal on par with all the Haliburton nonsense we heard for the last decade. But since the profeteers are donkesy, neary a peep. When government gets to pick the winners & losers, we all lose.

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  1. Xetrov

    One of the people in the comments on that article is actually using this defense –

    NASA, DARPA, and the military often initially pay exhorbitant prices for technology which paves the way for lower cost commercial applications. The internet, teflon, tasers, integrated circuits, super-computers, etc. were all initially too expensive for public use.

    I guess he missed where there wasn’t already a much much cheaper, well established alternative to the Internet, teflon, tasers, integrated circuits, super-computers, etc. What a stupid argument to try to justify a completely bone-headed decision.

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  2. CM

    Spending four times as much for biofuels may impress the Democratic Party’s environmentalist special interests. But to Russia’s Vladimir Putin, North Korea’s Kim Jong Il, Iran’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and other U.S. adversaries, it will be a sign of weakness and an invitation for aggression.

    That’s the funniest thing I’ve read for a while. The Onion couldn’t have written it better.

    Here’s another take
    http://www.dailytech.com/Military+Biofuel+Costs+Slashed+Thanks+to+Massive+Navy+Purchase/article23454.htm

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  3. AlexInCT *

    I guess he missed where there wasn’t already a much much cheaper, well established alternative to the Internet, teflon, tasers, integrated circuits, super-computers, etc. What a stupid argument to try to justify a completely bone-headed decision.

    Those higly priced military items everyone gets so up in arms about where a common practice during the Cold War era, when the US was straddled with an open system that had to show all dollars spent on military hardware, to hide expendatures on black projects from the Soviets. Nobody ever paid $600 a seat cover for toilet seat covers or $1200 a hammer for a 100 hammers. That money built the SR-71, the U-2, and the F-117, to name a few black projects, in secret, amongst other things.

    There is no need for black projects these days. So when you see waste, that’s because a connected crony, practically without exclusion to democrats, was “helped” by those they donate to.

    And yes CM, spending this kind of money on stupid shit makes others wonder if they should take you seriously.

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  4. CM

    And yes CM, spending this kind of money on stupid shit makes others wonder if they should take you seriously.

    I neither asked the question nor have I bought any biofuel.

    Not agreeing with the policy behind this is one thing, but you don’t even seem to understand it.

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  5. AlexInCT *

    Not agreeing with the policy behind this is one thing, but you don’t even seem to understand it.

    Actually I understand it perfectly. When you turn food into expensive and inefficient fuel, consuming more energy to make it than it puts out, like we do with corn, for example, it is basically insanity.

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  6. CM

    Solazyme, the South San Francisco-based startup that ferments algae to produce oil that can be refined into fuel; and Louisiana-based Dynamic Fuels, a Tyson Foods-Syntroleum joint venture that makes its fuel from used cooking oil and non-food-grade animal fats.

    http://www.earthtechling.com/2011/12/navy-buying-450000-gallons-of-biofuels/

    …the decommissioned Spruance-class destroyer Paul F. Foster, reconfigured to provide an unmanned test platform – made a 17-hour trek from San Diego to the Naval Surface Warfare Center Port Hueneme using a 50-50 blend of algae-derived, hydro-processed algal oil and a standard petroleum fuel.

    http://www.earthtechling.com/2011/11/navys-largest-biofuel-test-called-success/

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  7. sahrab

    CM just to be clear, the type of fuel in yours and Alex’s articles (Solazyme and many other “algae” produced bio fuels) are alternatives to compression ignition (burn) engines (ie JP5, JP8 and diesel) vs spark ignition (gas).

    Military grade diesels have always (at least since the 50’s) had the requirement they can burn (just about) anything with the appropriate Cetane number (diesel version of octane).

    Many people i know run refined used cooking oil, instead of diesel. I even have friends that run a 60/40 (or even higher) mixture of transmission or power steering fluid and diesel. They are gambing because, in the US, red dyed Diesel is marked for Off Road use only. While they arent running off-road diesel, they can get a ticket for it because of their mixture.

    The Heating Oil used in Oil Furnaces is nothing more than Diesel.

    The point being, while the articles point out the crazy price per gallon they are paying for the fuel, the fuel itself isnt necessarily taking away from other landmass’es that could be used for food stocks. Unlike Ethanol, which takes corn out of the available food supply.

    Many of the bio-fuels are a by product of another product. I do not know if thats the case for the algae, but for the fryer oil and automatic transmission fluids my friends are using, theese come from used products that would normally be disposed of in some other manner. There is even promising research being investigated for using sucrose (sugar) as a fuel stock. This means the left over pulp and by products from the timber and logging industry (wood pulp, bark, leaves) could become a viable fuel source.

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  8. CM

    You’re obviously much more knowledgeable than me on this issue sahrab, I’m very much a curious observer. But, anyway, that would seem to be the longer version of what I said.

    Again, Alex doesn’t seem to understand (or is uninterested in) the rationale behind this. A comparison to hammers and toilet seats is illogical. As usual, it’s all just a big conspiracy. Which is as intellectually retarded and lazy as it gets.

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