Cain Out

It seemed like such a good idea at the time:

An unapologetic and defiant Herman Cain suspended his presidential campaign on Saturday, pledging that he “would not go away” even as he abandoned hope of winning the Republican nomination in the face of escalating accusations of sexual misconduct.

“As of today, with a lot of prayer and soul searching, I am suspending my presidential campaign,” Mr. Cain said at a rally here, surrounded by supporters chanting his name. “Because of the continued distractions, the continued hurt caused on me and my family, not because we are not fighters. Not because I’m not a fighter.”

In suspending his candidacy, as opposed to saying that he was quitting the race or ending his bid, Mr. Cain maintained his ability to accept money to pay for his campaign so far and to finance the new venture that he called his Plan B: to travel the country promoting his tax and foreign policy plans. If Mr. Cain had decided to formally close his campaign organization, he would not be able to use donations that may come in.

As I said on Twitter, there are two possibilities with Herman Cain: (1) he is so dumb he didn’t think all these scandals were come out; (2) he knew they would come out and just wanted the attention. And Herman Cain is not an idiot. The man is literally a rocket scientist.

Thinking about it some more, I think it’s possible that Cain was such a political newbie that it simply didn’t cross him that he would become the front-runner and that people would start digging through his past. Like a lot of people, Cain may simply have wanted to get his message out; to say some things he felt needed to be said and push a few issues he felt needed to be pushed. That would dovetail with his plans to keep talking and his ongoing radio career.

To be honest, I’ll miss him from the campaign. I don’t think I would have voted for him but I liked his voice and his earnestness. I like his life story. I liked his lack of polish. I think that if I ever met Herman Cain in person, I would feel like he was my new best friend. There are at least three or four other candidates I’d rather see go first.

Oh, well. Happy trails, Herman. I’m sure we haven’t heard the last of you.

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  1. Section8

    The way I see it, he should focus on next time, or maybe a Senate run assuming he is innocent. In the meantime, if all these allegations are false, he should focus on suing the hell out of them and that will make him immune for next time. If not, then at least he’s not taking up resources that could go to other candidates. There are still 50 shades of silliness to all this. People were going to come forward, then not, then they might. WTF, don’t waste my time.

    One thing though, outside of harassment, I wish we’d get off this family values bullshit. I wish candidates would quit preaching how adults should live their lives. That immediately is going to put them under scrutiny. I do find it strange though that people will be less forgiving of a family value fuckup, even though it’s blatant hypocrisy if you’re preaching it, than they are regarding rich leftist tax preachers who evade paying taxes (Sharpton) or try to cheat the system or do cleaver work arounds to the system like where they park their yachts (Kerry), etc.

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  2. FPrefect89

    if all these allegations are false, he should focus on suing the hell out of them and that will make him immune for next time.

    He cannot sue. The only course of action is a defamation suit and now that he tried to run for public office, he is a public figure and pretty much anything can be said about him with no recourse. Gotta love it.

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  3. Hal_10000 *

    Coulter starts with bullshit right off the top. John Edwards’ meltdown was heavily covered by the MSM. She then notes that several of the women have not come forward; but who wants to come forward when a hack like Coulter will slime you ever way from Sunday? She then slimes Bialek even though Bilake is a Republican and has corroboration of meetings with Cain.

    It’s the typical “blame the accuser” bullshit that we never tolerated when it was Clinton. Cain’s response has not been that of an innocent man; it’s been that of someone who is being evasive and dishonest, changing his story multiple times and getting caught out in at least one lie on Bialek.

    And black conservative are specially targeted? Maybe. But how come this shit never happened to Colin Powell? Or JC Watts? Or Thomas Sowell? Or Mike Steele? Or Condi RIce? Or any of a hundred black conservatives?

    I’ll agree that conservative are held to a higher standard on personal behavior than liberals. But when an iron-bound plank of your party platform is controlling other people’s personal behavior, I think you’ve earned a little more scrutiny. And as I’ve said, I hold conservatives to a higher standard. I expect them to behave better than liberals.

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  4. Mississippi Yankee

    Coulter starts with bullshit right off the top. John Edwards’ meltdown was heavily covered by the MSM.

    Now I’m concerned your may have selective memory loss, only because I’m trying to refrain from calling you a blatant liar.
    While John Edwards was running for president (yanno, as Cain was doing) the ONLY mention of ANY misconduct on his part was a page 8 blurb in the National Inquirer. The MSM refused to reprint it and it was buried until your Mocha Messiah got the (D) nomination. Then and ONLY then did the National Enquirer produce pictures, eye witness accounts and bank statements. With Edwards already in the (D) losing column the MSM finally began running negative stories.

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    She then notes that several of the women have not come forward; but who wants to come forward when a hack like Coulter will slime you ever way from Sunday?

    Yes, I suppose if you can’t dispute her timelines or FACTS calling her names would be your next tactic.

    It’s the typical “blame the accuser” bullshit that we never tolerated when it was Clinton.

    At this point your absolute dishonesty damn near leave me speechless. Clinton’s accusers are still demonized to this very day.

    And black conservative are specially targeted? Maybe. But how come this shit never happened to Colin Powell? Or JC Watts? Or Thomas Sowell? Or Mike Steele? Or Condi RIce? Or any of a hundred black conservatives?

    NIGGA FUCKIN’ PLUZE! you may take me for a fool but shouldn’t you have some respect for the rest of the people here?
    Or is your Ivory Tower that tall?

    I hold conservatives to a higher standard. I expect them to behave better than liberals.

    Allow me to correct this for you.

    It is not physically possible for you to criticize a democrat without blaming the GOP for the same or more severe crimes. And with most cases in the very same paragraph. It reads like Joe Klein of TIME™

    You sir are the hack, while constantly trying to pass your self off as anything other than a dem supporting liberal.

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  5. Hal_10000 *

    The problem with Coulter is that even when her facts are right, she doesn’t include all the facts. Let’s stick with Bialek. She ignores the fact that two witnesses said she told them about it at the time, years before Cain had any political ambitions. She ignores the fact that Cain lied about meeting her at a rally (another witness supports BIalek’s version). She ignores the fact that Cain dissembled mightily on the subject, eventually getting into a Clinton-esque parsing of the word “settlement”.

    The logic of her article can not be mistaken: you’d better make sure, before you accuse a Republican of anything, that you have zero association with any liberals or democrats, no skeletons in your closet and an absolutely perfect record. Because if you don’t, these facts — which don’t say anything about whether Herman Cain did or did not harass these women — will be used to impugn anything you say. The logic is “you’re some kind of liberal; therefore everything you say must be a lie.”

    I have no idea if Bialek is telling the truth or not. But the “facts” cited do not prove anything, least of all an elaborate Left Wing Conspiracy.

    It is not physically possible for you to criticize a democrat without blaming the GOP for the same or more severe crimes. And with most cases in the very same paragraph. It reads like Joe Klein of TIME™

    You sir are the hack, while constantly trying to pass your self off as anything other than a dem supporting liberal.

    It’s shit like this that makes me want to give up blogging. I’ve opposed Obamacare, supported a constructionist interpretation of the Constitution, supported gun rights, opposed the stimulus, ridiculed Keynsians economics, called out Obama numerous times on his subservience to Big Labor, called for deep spending cuts including entitlements. I have, on these pages, mocked John Kerry, Barack Obama, Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Michael Moore, Paul Krugmann, Sean Penn, Jeanine Garafalo, the View, the NYT, the mainstream media, the nightly news, Alan Grayson, Al Gore, Occupy Wall Street, Bill Maher, Amanda Marcotte, the UN, the UN Human Rights Council, ANSWER, ACORN, the Communist Party, Barbara Boxer, Di Fi, John Edwards (whom I’ve numerous times referred to as scum, even before the love child business came out). The only Democrats I supported in my life were Sam Nunn and Virgil Goode. But because I don’t believe Herman Cain was the victim of an elaborate setup, I’m a dem-supporting liberal?

    Conservatism is no longer a philosophy, it’s a tribe. There is a belief system (global warming is a hoax, tax cuts are always good), a tribal protectionism (don’t say anything bad about Republicans, no matter how stupid they get) and, of course, a ritual enemy (Democrats hate America and want the terrorists to win). If we can cast Cain’s accusers as members of the bad tribe, we can ignore what they say.

    You’re mistaking not being a Republican with not being a conservative. I was a Republican for the first 35 years of my life. But when the party abandoned any pretense of fiscal or constitutional restraint, and became the party of radical religious and neoconservative dogma, I left. That doesn’t make me a Democrat. That means I’m out in the parking lot, waiting for things to calm down and for the drunks to pass out before I come back in. There are signs of hope — Christie, Huntsman, Haley, Paul Ryan, etc. And I think Cain might be part of that future, actually. But until the GOP gets over this ridiculous tribalism, I’ll stay out here, listening to the radio and the police sirens.

    I could spend all my time mocking Democrats; they make it very easy. But what’s the point? They’re stupid and useless. The Republican Party might … MIGHT … be able to pull its head out of its ass at some point.

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  6. Section8

    You sir are the hack, while constantly trying to pass your self off as anything other than a dem supporting liberal.

    That’s a little harsh Mississippi. I agree that sometimes Hal does seem back off on some things, like the Grand Bargain for example, but wouldn’t you agree that 80% of the time he’s posting things you’d agree with? I know I look at it that way. No one agrees with someone 100% of the time. Hell, I can’t even think of two people here that have posted in agreement consistently, except maybe the tag team duo that’s appeared here recently.

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  7. Mississippi Yankee

    She ignores the fact that two witnesses said she told them about it at the time, years before Cain had any political ambitions.

    I sure would like to see these two witnesses in print as her own boyfriend at the time (yanno the one that suggested her meeting w/ Cain) is quoted in print that she NEVER mentioned any attack by Cain that night or any other.

    I have no idea if Bialek is telling the truth or not.

    Yet the tone of your post might suggest otherwise, allow me to show you:
    As I said on Twitter, there are two possibilities with Herman Cain: (1) he is so dumb he didn’t think all these scandals were come out; (2) he knew they would come out and just wanted the attention.

    And as for your defensive screed of your conservative bona-fides? Well ole loquacious CM couldn’t have written a better declaration BRAVO! Wonder how many people bought it though.

    My accusation… I stand by it, and now perhaps more people will be watching for it too.

    But whining about why you even bother to blog was a bit beyond the pale don’t you think? This place was “Thunderdome” long before you or I ever came around Hal.

    Just one more thing. Does anyone else here have to re-log back onto this forum more than once a week? I find it really odd that this usually occurs after I’ve been critical of post I disagree with… no accusation, imjustsayin’

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  8. Mississippi Yankee

    I’ll admit to a very SMALL amount of hyperbole with that statement but in total I disagree with Hal quite often and when pressed he becomes a bit disingenuous.

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  9. JimK

    Just one more thing. Does anyone else here have to re-log back onto this forum more than once a week? I find it really odd that this usually occurs after I’ve been critical of post I disagree with… no accusation, imjustsayin’

    Just to set your mind at ease, there is no mechanism that would allow a moderator/author to log you out. That’s just one of those browser/site interactions that is giving the appearance of a pattern. I have to log in about every week-10 days, and then sometimes daily for a few days in a row, and then sometimes not for a month.

    I may be all powerful as the admin, but I can’t log you out or in. I could change all your comments after you post ‘em. Make everyone think you love having sex with kittens and dirty hippies at the same time. That is in my power. ;)

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  10. Hal_10000 *

    Yet the tone of your post might suggest otherwise, allow me to show you:
    As I said on Twitter, there are two possibilities with Herman Cain: (1) he is so dumb he didn’t think all these scandals were come out; (2) he knew they would come out and just wanted the attention

    He was caught unprepared by the sexual harassment allegations, which he had known about for a decade. And was caught unprepared by the allegation of an affair. Most people, when entering politics, prepare themselves for whatever may be dug up from their past. Bill Clinton had an entire kabuki dance arranged to deal with Jennifer Flowers and the bimbo eruptions. Bush II was able to respond to the revelation of his drunk driving bust and accusations of past substance abuse. By contrast, Kerry was unprepared for what came out about his Vietnam days.

    You can’t not know that, if you’ve been accused of sexual harassment — whether the allegation was baseless or not — that it’s going to come out. If I were in politics and had twice had complaints about sexual harassment, you can be damn sure I’d be prepared to respond when it was revealed.

    My whining about blogging isn’t a response to criticism. I’m married; I can take criticism. It’s the ideological closure I see so much of that gets to me.

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  11. Miguelito

    Hmm.. it’s likely in the cookie settings. I just erased mine and logged back in (and oddly got some that expired in November back). The one with wordpress_logged_in_$randhex in the name expires 12/19 though, so it should, theoretically, leave one logged in for 2 weeks at a time. Not counting other cookie issues, erasing them, perhaps even exiting the brower.

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  12. CM

    And as for your defensive screed of your conservative bona-fides? Well ole loquacious CM couldn’t have written a better declaration BRAVO! Wonder how many people bought it though.

    AKA any colour is fine so long as it’s black or white.

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  13. Mississippi Yankee

    CM, you don’t seem to be able to accept (left-handed) compliments very well. May be a chink in your bon vivant nature n’est-ce pas?

    BTW neither black nor white are true colors.

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  14. CM

    I’m struggling to see how it could even be back-handed. You’re sure as hell not comparing him to me in favourable terms.
    Anyway, whatever. I really don’t give a shit. Troll away.

    BTW neither black nor white are true colors.

    Yes I know, thanks. The additional point being – if you can only see things in black or white, perhaps there is an inability to even consider colour.
    I was originally going to say “Pick any number you like as long as it’s either 0 or 1″ but it wouldn’t have quite worked in the same way.

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