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  1. InsipiD

    Discuss.

    How she managed to OJ that one, I don’t know. She couldn’t possibly have blown every juror without getting caught. The bitch was guilty, and I suppose we’ll never know why she wasn’t convicted, but I was and remain disgusted with Florida.

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  2. Seattle Outcast

    I barely paid attention to the trial – her guilt was so obvious that it seemed a summary execution behind the courthouse was in order.

    How she managed to OJ that one,

    Ironically, Kim Kardashian has had her mind blown that a lawyer could get off an obviously guilty client.

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  3. Kimpost

    I haven’t paid enough attention to have a real opinion of my own (not really interested in criminal freak show trials like this). Most “experts” I did see however, seemed convinced of her guilt. I never quite got why. Did she actually confess to anything, or was the drowning hypothesis just a hypothesis out of the blue?

    Might be interested enough to watch a Discovery Channel documentary of it when it comes.

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  4. Hal_10000 *

    My opinion is that she was probably guilty. But the state did a shit job or proving it. All they could prove was that she disposed of the body. Their strongest evidence was the supposed chloroform but there was not any agreement on whether this was significant or not.

    Juries do not return not guilty verdicts in 11 hours when the state has proved its case. This was practically a note from the jury saying, “That’s it? That’s all you’ve got?”

    I might watch whatever the fuck channel Nancy Grace is on just to watch her head ‘asplode.

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  5. mrblume

    I for one am happy. She could have been executed. That’s crazy. There is no tangible purpose that would have been served by it, not even a vague conception of “justice”. That is, unless you believe that her child is literally sitting on one of heaven’s clouds right now, being outraged and demanding that her mother be killed as payback.

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  6. West Virginia Rebel

    Media hype doesn’t win cases. Evidence does. This should be another lesson in why the media shouldn’t be allowed to act like armchair attorneys or jurors.

    The defense really went after the forensics on this case, and the prosecution couldn’t meet the burden of proof. They probably shouldn’t have gone for murder (manslaughter, maybe?)

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  7. Kimpost

    Any jury member could write a book now, I suppose. Or have it ghost written. Wonder who were smart enough to take notes of everything.

    The commercial side aside, it’s interesting to see that the dynamics can be totally different within an isolated group. She would undoubtedly have been found guilty if the jury had not been isolated.

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  8. Seattle Outcast

    For starters, it would have removed the possibility of her murdering another child. She’s still free to go forth and breed like a bunny rabbit, and I wouldn’t give a tinker’s damn for the odds those kids have of making it to five…

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  9. Seattle Outcast

    This was practically a note from the jury saying, “That’s it? That’s all you’ve got?”

    I’d have to agree with you on that – my experience with juries is that people tend to take their duties seriously and expect the prosecution and cops to do their homework. Also, contrary to popular myth, juries aren’t composed of “people too stupid to get out of jury duty”.

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  10. InsipiD

    You’d rather a guilty murderer go free just because she could be executed for the crime of killing another person? You’re a sad person.

    Obvious troll is obvious.

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  11. Rann

    I haven’t been following it, but from bits and pieces relayed to me, it sounded like the defense had been just throwing every bit of bullshit they could to see if something stuck. I guess it did, or the prosecution just really sucked at dodging.

    I have to say, though, the idea that someone could actually believe that all she did was dispose of the body is mind-boggling. Not believing she’s innocent, and not believing she’s guilty, but that weird mingling. “Oh, the kid died of perfectly natural causes, she just felt the need to cover it up and make it look a lot like a murder.” People who feel that they’re innocent do not try to do this… she was either guilty of something or felt guilty of something, with my money being on guilty.

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  12. TxAg94

    Kinda sad when compared to the inevitable innocent person out there who gets convicted of a crime because the cops like quick and easy cases and the guy doesn’t have enough hype to get Hollywood lawyers.

    Like seemingly everyone else, I haven’t been following it closely. But what I have seen made me wonder if any guilty verdict could have stuck anyway. The appeal would no doubt highlight the circus atmosphere surrounding the trial. I know I would have.

    I also find it disgusting that the “news” media are “shocked” but they could not have asked for a better outcome. This would have gone away rather quickly otherwise. We’re stuck with it for a long time to come now. And they crazy bitch on CNN must be soaking her panties clean through right now.

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  13. mrblume

    Oh, I would take those odds. Chances that she will kill another child of hers are small enough as it is, and could be eliminated pretty much completely by her serving a long prison sentence (which I wouldn’t support either though). But, this argument certainly doesn’t justify the death penalty.

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  14. Kimpost

    I’m not sure what you are trying to say. Are you just against the death penalty in general or do you think she was innocent?

    Without following the case it seems to me as if the prosecution didn’t make a strong enough case for her guilt. No DNA, no admission, inconclusive evidence of chloroform and decomposition. We don’t even know the cause of death. What the jury was left with, was Casey’s lies and strange behaviour. That’s not evidence of murder.

    I’m leaning towards it being a correct verdict, even if I deep down still think that Casey and/or someone in the family did something to the child.

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  15. Section8

    If she had killed your child, or would now only be at risk of killing your child, or one of your family members if you don’t have a child, I suppose I’d be fine with letting her out as well.

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  16. InsipiD

    I’m leaning towards it being a correct verdict, even if I deep down still think that Casey and/or someone in the family did something to the child.

    Probably due to lots of pressure, the DA brought the case to trial before it was ready, and now a probably guilty person will forever be free from this crime. The jury isn’t to convict unless beyond a reasonable doubt, and they must have had reasonable doubt.

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  17. AlexInCT

    Jail is not a better choice: it is the choice, and a costly one at that, of those that think they are superior to those others that believe people that show no respect for other’s lives and deserve some of the same, should never be given another chance to do more of the same. There is no higher morality at work here. Especially when these murderers are let out of jail early then kill again.

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  18. InsipiD

    Except the troll said he wasn’t in favor of jail, either. I’m sure a warm hug is punishment enough for murdering a little kid.

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  19. Seattle Outcast

    But, this argument certainly doesn’t justify the death penalty.

    So what would? How about if someone broke into your home, raped your dog, wife, mother and all your children, then killed and ate them. The only remains found are the bones and a massive pile of shit (your brains) left on the bed?

    Still think that hauling them out and putting a bullet in their head won’t solve anything?

    Obvious troll is obvious, indeed….

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  20. InaneGoldfish

    To be fair, her laywers were taking the case pro bono. And with the entire country positive that she was guilty no one could have faulted them for a guilty verdict.
    Now they get to reap the benefits of being “celebrity lawyers” because they “got her off” (IMHO: upheld the judicial system). Who says charity work is unrewarding?

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  21. CzarChasm

    The problem is that this case was so grossly over-charged. Murder 1, going for death? Based on what? No evidence of violence on the remains. No clear-cut evidence of even a manner of death at all. The duct tape was certainly incriminating, but it didn’t have a speck of DNA on it, so nothing could be proved beyond the necessary reasonable doubt standard concerning it being placed before or after the death of the child. The state didn’t even charge illegal disposal of a human body, which is a common CYA, catch-all charge just to give jurors something to hang their hat on. As counter-intuitive as it seems, the verdict was the right one for the charges levied against her.

    For whatever it’s worth, I heard a report this morning that Vivid Videos, Jenna Jammison’s porn production company, has tendered an offer to Casey for a feature film role. I wouldn’t mind watching her bent over an above-ground pool ladder getting buggered up the arse by some well-endowed cowpuncher dressed like a bailiff. If there is no real justice, I’m willing to settle for some poetic justice.

    CC

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  22. mrblume

    I have only followed this case loosely, admittedly, but I have seen no evidence that she is a danger to anyway except possibly her own children. The simple fact is that the odds of this happening again are minimal.

    The need to deter this particular individual is therefore minimal. The need to deter society at large is also minimal, since mothers killing their own children is in fact not a common occurrence; in cases were it does happen, reason suggests that possible punishment would play a limited role in the mothers mind.

    There are also no relatives here who have a legitimate desire for vengeance. I suppose some might disagree, but I guess I don’t consider wishing the death of your daughter because she killed your granddaughter a valid emotional state that the justice system should accommodate.

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  23. mrblume

    I’m not sure what you are trying to say.

    I guess what I’m saying is that when I hear about a mother killing her child, my intuition says “counseling”, not “she deserves to die”.

    I believe my intuition is supported by sound criminal justice theory.

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  24. Kimpost

    I thought some would like to Shepard Smith getting fed up with a politician in Florida exploiting the current situation for passing a Caylee’s Law.

    He starts up mocking him by addressing a make-belief bill, in the middle he outright yells at the guy, before ending it by wishing him luck with the popular law in all this emotional outrage. Shep couldn’t hide his disgust.

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  25. CM

    Jail is not a better choice: it is the choice, and a costly one at that, of those that think they are superior to those others that believe people that show no respect for other’s lives and deserve some of the same, should never be given another chance to do more of the same. There is no higher morality at work here. Especially when these murderers are let out of jail early then kill again.

    I think killing people is showing no respect for life, period. I don’t see how if killing people is so very very wrong the best thing we can do is kill as a response. Doesn’t really make sense to me.

    Anyway, is it legal to bury a body in the woods? Is DIY burial legal?

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  26. Section8

    If you’re against the death penalty I’ll respect that, and if your argument is that you don’t think she did it, then I’ll respect that as well, but if you think she did it, and think she just needs some hugs from a shrink to make it all better, I don’t respect that.

    A poor kid is dead and someone is responsible for it. That person should should have to accept punishment for it. In my opinion, when you kill deliberately kill someone for any reason other than self defense of your own life, you stay in jail until you can find a way to bring back the person you killed. I don’t see the kid’s death as an “oh well” moment. I find that kind of thinking disturbing.

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