Cain Careening

I figured I should throw up something on Herman Cain before he does a Newt and self destructs before our eyes. I always pegged Cain as one of those fringe candidates like Michele Bachman (is it me, or are there times when she looks fairly hot?), hosting one small table under a much larger tent. And of the rich business dudes in the race, he was much more sane and grounded then Captain Combover. But I saw Herman on The Factor last night, and I just don’t think he is ready for prime time:

I think his heart is in the right place but what he has is insufficient for the task at hand. Another major roadblock for Herman he going to be his fundamentalism:

This was Cain’s ,” Right wing engineering is just as bad as left wing engineering ” moment, but unlike Newt, this guy still sees the primrose path in front of him. The “Muslim” thing is equally troubling, not because he is wrong about creeping Sharia, but because religious tests, for anything, is so anti American.

Although his business pedigree is stellar, I have always questioned how easy the segway is from business to politics. Unlike a governor of a state (where he has to work with the legislature to get things done), or a military general (where even though he commands thousands of troops, he still is under civilian authority) a CEO of a large company is pretty much god and is not required to work well with others. Sure, he must play nice with the board of directors, but 9 times out of 10, those guys are all his golfing or bridge buddies, and they will ascent to pretty much his every wish. A CEO can fire those he feels incompetent, even those disloyal, he does not abide conflict and he does not need approval or co operation from others like a president needs the cooperation of Congress. Political skills (compromise, schmoozing, deferring wants now to get something bigger later, even pragmatism) can elude the best of the CEO’s. So business skill’s, understanding budgets, profits/losses, taxes, insurance, understanding the bottomline (here, it is your money and your financial well being,where when in government, it is never your money or your losses) although nice to have on the resume is not sufficient as a stand alone, and Cain appears to me woefully unprepared to be president. The search goes on.

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  1. West Virginia Rebel

    This, to me, is part of the reason why Ross Perot failed-he might have been right about some things, but a good CEO does not a good politician (or a good leader) necessarily make.

    I think he does add something to the debate (and it’s telling that TIME Magazine ignores him in its roster of otherwise lily-white Republican wannabes.) But I think he’s probably economic advisor material at best.

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  2. Mississippi Yankee

    Perhaps you and WVR prefer community organizers as your politicians of choice? And a military general would be a better choice than a CEO…

    I’m starting to see some similarities with your posts and those of the de-commissioned WVRs.

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  3. richtaylor365 *

    Ooh, did I strike a nerve? So you like Herman, fine, show me where I got it wrong.

    And a military general would be a better choice than a CEO…

    Depends on the CEO and the general, but as a group and which avocation would transition easier, yes, I would say the general.

    I’m starting to see some similarities with your posts and those of the de-commissioned WVRs.

    I’m sure he will be flattered.

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  4. Mississippi Yankee

    While you and Chomsky Man attempt to utilize Alinsky Rules here I’ll not bite.

    My point is many of your posts have become as inane as those of ex poster WVR, kinda/sorta why he’s an ex=poster BTW.
    However I do like just about everything I have heard Cain say although I’m not overly thrilled with his diction. Furthermore I believe anyone that is able to operate a successful company, and turn around an unsuccessful one, far superior to the sloganeer that occupies the WH now.

    Oh and CM, save your fingers, I find you to be nothing but a loquacious troll and read very little of what you spew.

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  5. richtaylor365 *

    While you and Chomsky Man attempt to utilize Alinsky Rules here I’ll not bite.

    Bite at what? I asked you to tell me why you like Cain, and all you got is that he is a successful business man, wow, so is The Donald, you think he is ready for the WH?

    Are you under some illusion that I am an Obama fan or that I am liberal thinking? What are you smoking?

    Cain is a good man, but hardly presidential material.

    Sorry you don’t like my posts, can’t please everyone :(

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  6. Kimpost

    My point is many of your posts have become as inane as those of ex poster WVR, kinda/sorta why he’s an ex=poster BTW.

    I think it’s unfair to criticize someone as broadly as you just did, without offering a better explanation than that. Why don’t you try to back your point up with examples? I mean, if you are right, you might actually give rich something to think about.

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  7. loserlame

    The idea of fresh voices and unspoiled folks coming along who were truly of, by, and for the people has been around for a while – the story of one “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” was nominated for a bunch of Oscars in 1939, and won for Best Original Story.

    – which, in turn, reminds me of Ronald Reagan, the two-bit actor gone US presidential.
    I was living in Germany in the late 70s, where fellow teens were just getting deeply into Che and left-wing extremism a la Red Army Faction, bemoaning acid rain, and, of course, the soundtrack to it all was the Woodstock LP.

    In it, the song “Drugstore Truck Driving Man” had been dedicated to him, the head of the Ku Klux Klan, and the thinker generation in overseas went absolutely apoplectic when they learned Americans were going to allow a lousy Republican actor/Klansman access to money-grubbing missiles pointed at the “evil empire” USSR, for “god and country”. Whatever they were.

    Reagan’s unrelenting near-Nazi propaganda begat the Yuppie Era and eventually led to California’s electing two-bit Euro actor Arnie to fix a few things from Ronnie’s former chair. Euro critique was far less harsh. Arnie had a correspondence BA from the University of Wisconsin–Superior in Business and International Economics. An actor in politics maybe wasn’t so bad, after all. Couldn’t possibly do a worse job than Ronnie did, anyway

    But Austrian Green Party thinker Peter Pilz complained that “A citizen, who is in the public service of a foreign country, shall be deprived of his citizenship, if he heavily damages the reputation or the interests of the Austrian Republic”.and demanded Arnie’s Austrian citizenship be revoked, supposedly on the issue of the death penalty in California.

    Ronnie’s old Klan lost the last US election. Obama can’t lose overseas, and guys like Cain, whom we Euros naturally assume came by his wealth and expertise the natural way, will always assume to have done/do the best they can given the circumstances they’d inherited from their country, run by uneducated, if popular, 2-bit actors.

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  8. Mississippi Yankee

    I never said I liked Cain per se, pay attention, what I alluded to was his life experiences were better suited to ‘lead’ as apposed to a career politician. It’s not called the Executive Office for nothing.

    And any comparison between Cain and The Donald is just more of your foolishness. Cain took a failing company, Godfather Pizza, and turned it around. Trump, on the other hand, caused one of his casinos to go bankrupt. I would not think such a thing was possible but…

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  9. richtaylor365 *

    So far, your point has been point-less.

    While you and Chomsky Man attempt to utilize Alinsky Rules here I’ll not bite.

    What are you talking about? Is that Alinsky reference somehow supposed to expose me as a lefty radical? really?

    what I alluded to was his life experiences were better suited to ‘lead’ as apposed to a career politician.

    OK, so what? his life experiences were better suited to lead as opposed to a hairdresser to, and the times I compared him to a hairdresser equals the times I compared him to a career politician, what does that have to do with anything?

    I still don’t get what you are fussing about.

    Perhaps you and WVR prefer community organizers as your politicians of choice?

    Where would you get that from? Are you sure you have read anything I’ve written?

    If you got a beef with the piece, then let’s here it. If you don’t like my posts, don’t read them, but if you are going to comment, at least make sense.

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  10. Mississippi Yankee

    Richy: It seems I haven’t got the reply placement thing down yet.

    I never said I liked Cain per se, pay attention, what I alluded to was his life experiences were better suited to ‘lead’ as apposed to a career politician. It’s not called the Executive Office for nothing.

    And any comparison between Cain and The Donald is just more of your foolishness. Cain took a failing company, Godfather Pizza, and turned it around. Trump, on the other hand, caused one of his casinos to go bankrupt. I would not think such a thing was possible but…

    If you can’t see my point then further discussion would be a waste of time.

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  11. CM

    And I’m Chomsky. Yawn. Ok, well you’re Hitler then. Gee, isn’t this fun.

    Wow, sounds exactly like an exchange with Alex. Must make sense in some parallel universe that we’re not aware of.

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  12. richtaylor365 *

    Cutting and pasting a comment from another comment? Seriously? That is about the laziest thing I’ve ever seen.

    further discussion would be a waste of time.

    Agreed, you are a waste of time.

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  13. balthazar

    Well seeing as how you (CM) seem to like Chomsky, whereas im sure Yankee doesnt like Hitler, your being a fucking ass, again.

    He compares you to a socialist/communist sycophant, you compare him to one of the worst mass muderers of all time.

    Yeah your an asshole.

    Jim, when are you going to add an IGNORE function? Or is there one already I dont know about?

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  14. loserlame

    Chomsky says that Ignore buttons impair freedom of speech, and therefore are a generic Republican’s favorite weapon. After nukes and Bibles……..

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  15. CM

    Well seeing as how you (CM) seem to like Chomsky, whereas im sure Yankee doesnt like Hitler, your being a fucking ass, again.

    A fucking ass? Ah ok. Awesome. Do you kiss you mother with that mouth?
    How is Chomsky even relevant here?
    I don’t know Chomsky personally, so I have no idea whether I like him or not. He’s probably a pain in the arse.

    He compares you to a socialist/communist sycophant, you compare him to one of the worst mass muderers of all time.

    Yeah your an asshole.

    I’m not actually comparing him to Hitler. I’m sorry you missed the point.

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  16. richtaylor365 *

    So, you are only good for one actual thought per day, got it.
    I guess you will have to wait until tomorrow to make another comment, or cut and paste an old one. I have never seen anybody do that before, how funny.

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  17. Mississippi Yankee

    Richy boy, your maturity just doesn’t seem to be shining through here today pal…

    I understood your point several days ago:

    businessman = bad
    community organizer = good. Hell with your thought process Joe Biden would make a great prez too huh?
    After all he’s never done anything of worth in his life either, unless you count plagiarizing.

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  18. richtaylor365 *

    Well, at least you did not cut and paste an old comment, good for you, but I’m not at all convinced that you can read.

    businessman = bad

    And I said that where?

    community organizer = good.

    And, where did I say that?

    You have to be goofing here (and not very clever at it) to think that I would support Joe Biden. Say something intelligent and on point, otherwise, I’m going to stick with my original assessment:

    you are a waste of time.

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  19. richtaylor365 *

    Just saw that Michele Bachmann has officially entered the race, big mistake. My Cain criticisms apply to Bachmann as well, I like her as a person and her work with foster kids is beyond laudable, but her fundamentalism will be her down fall. Still waiting for Perry to declare, he has the credentials to beat Obama.

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  20. Mississippi Yankee

    FINALLY something I agree with.

    Bachmann and Palin each have their jobs to do which is to draw the lefts disdain while saner folks plot the prog’s destruction.

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