Dick Cheney sums it up nicely

Darth Cheney speaks wisdom:

But it’s a– I think important to look at this as a continuum. I mean it’s not just on one day you get up, bang, and you got Osama bin Laden. It’s the kind of thing where an awful lot of people over a long period of time, thousands have worked this case and worked these issues and followed up on the leads and captured bad guys and interrogated them and so forth.

So I think it could be looked upon as a collective effort by our military and intelligence personnel– and by a lot of our civilian leaders. And in the final analysis we demonstrated conclusively that the American government takes very seriously our responsible to bring justice, if you will, or to bring to justice somebody like Bin Laden who’s committed this terrible outrage, killing– 3,000 Americans on 9/11.

And I think the way for us to think about it is– is to think about it as part of a collective effort. It started in the Clinton administration, was carried forward very aggressively in the Bush administration and now the Obama administration with the– the results that we’re all very pleased to see today.

Love him or hate him – or be somewhere in the middle about him – Big Dick Cheney has the right of it here. I think it really was effort that spanned three administrations and no amount of posturing by any faction can change that.

But.

The narrative is already written. For one side it’s “OBAMA GOT HIM.” For the other it’s “TORTURE WORKED.” I seriously doubt either of those is true. I think there were a million little successes and a million little errors and the reason we got Osama in the end is that three administrations continued to doggedly do the grunt work needed to track a fugitive. It was, in a way, an international example of good old fashioned police work. Only it ended with the mass murdering son of a pig shot in his forehead while hiding behind a woman, like a little pussy-man.

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  1. Manwhore

    It’s America’s victory not any one president or a party. I prod at the libs here and there, but it’s only to rock their fragile little minds.

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  2. AlexInCT

    The more Obama and the left tries to make it about them, the more they will turn off the people. Anyone that isn’t a die hard leftist is seeing the way the WH is trying to politicize this, and they are getting turned off. If anything, what they are doing is going to harm them more than anything else.

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  3. muirgeo

    Uhh …yeah…NOW… nice codpiece.

    Bush, You covered your ass now go back to DC And then he returned to the longest vacation ever took by a president and did nothing.

    A similiar PDB occured when Clinton was in office and every airport was placed on high alert.

    No Dick Cheney… the towers feel when YOU were in charge and Osama was not captured because YOU wanted to detract from the mission to invade Iraq for Halliburton and personal gain and to help your boss complete his families vendetta.

    Don’t even try to say credit is evenly deserved Dick Cheney…. I am sorry but put me down as one who is sickened by the likes of this man.

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  4. JimK *

    Why? What would be the point of that? It didn’t fail. Good men and women across multiple branches of the service planned and executed a tactical mission in accordance with the excellence expected fron SEALS and SpecOps teams.

    So what on earth would be the point of wondering, much less trying to start shit, over what “we” (there you go generalizing again, as though every author and commenter here thinks with a hive mind) might be saying if Dr. Who showed up in the TARDIS and somehow altered the timeline and something that did not happen in reality suddenly did?

    In short, muirgeo, what is the point of your comment if not to inflame or incite or just be a dick? You’ve raised nothing in the way of a discussion point and you;ve contributed nothing to the ongoing conversation.

    So, I ask you plainly; What was the point of this?

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  5. Seattle Outcast

    I would have greatly preferred Cheney as Pres and Bush as VP. Cheney comes across as much more thoughtful and intelligent.

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  6. JimK *

    No Dick Cheney… the towers feel when YOU were in charge

    Wow. Seriously? You REALLY think this is a fact, other than it technically happened 9 months after the swearing in of GWB?

    Do you truly and honestly believe that the 9/11 attack was planned and executed in the time between GWB taking office and 8am on 9/11 of that year? Or are you just saying things about a person you don’t like?

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  7. muirgeo

    Errr Operation Eagle Claw…. Black Hawk Down.

    There’s a double standard. I clearly remember Sean Hannity and all the talking heads threatening revolt if a single Marine died in Bosnia… none did… but if they did it would be the same old thing. Yet Bush fails miserable in Afganastan and then the Iraq outrage wasting thousands of soldiers lives and huge amounts of treasury …never asking the well to do to contibute money to the effort… and you guys give him a pass. And Dick dares to claim we’d be more at risk if a democrat were in office…. yeah because when a democrat is in office the Timothy Mcveighs come out of the wood works and home grown terrorism rises… that’s a FACT!

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  8. JimK *

    Prove and defend the statement that the readers and authors on THIS WEBSITE gave Bush a pass on Iraq. Show your work.

    You can’t just SAY shit, dude. Back it up.

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  9. Rann

    yeah because when a democrat is in office the Timothy Mcveighs come out of the wood works and home grown terrorism rises

    Well at least calling us domestic terrorists is slightly more creative than calling us Nazis.

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  10. muirgeo

    Did you read Richard Clarke, Against All Enemies… He is legit yet the right wing didn’t want to hear it.

    The PDB is available for all to read.

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  11. muirgeo

    I am not calling anyone here specifically a Nazi or a terrorist but it’s a fact that right wing terrorism is more of a threa domestically then anything that comes from the left. Likewise it was condservatives and republicans that got behind the Nazi’s ( Linderg, Prescott Bush) and also them who attempted to take out FDR.

    When republicans don’t win democratically they resort to violence and other evil tactics.

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  12. Rann

    Okay, first off, Nazis were socialists. Meaning, they’re yours. The people who started calling them right-wing were the friggin’ communists because, yes, socialism is slightly to the right of communism. This was then picked up by dishonest and stupid people such as yourself who found it a useful way to help define the world as “conservative=bad, liberal=good”.

    Second, many domestic terror groups are both leftists and for leftist causes. ALF, ELF, hey, you wanna go international, there’s the Sea Shepherds. There’s a group of terrorists with their own damn TV show.

    Third, you are lying. Again. And doing nothing but throwing thinly-veiled accusations around. Again. And being a sniveling little shitbag that can’t actually stand behind the crap he’s slinging. A-fucking-GAIN. So my advice to you is shut the fuck up for awhile and let everyone have enough of a fucking rest from your bullshit that you’re not given the boot, so that you can go back to just pushing your luck instead of fucking exhausting it.

    You’re all out of fucking slack, so stop fucking toying with the lever unless you’re really ready for your short drop and sudden stop. Dick.

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  13. InsipiD

    Sean Hannity and all the talking heads threatening revolt if a single Marine died in Bosnia

    Where was Hannity during Bosnia? Was anyone listening to him?

    I am not calling anyone here specifically a Nazi or a terrorist

    Not individually, just as a group. You’re a dick, and you won’t even back up what you said. You just backpedal all you want. You’re really good at throwing a blanket insult at everybody here and now you’re going to say that you didn’t.

    right wing terrorism is more of a threa domestically then anything that comes from the left.

    Citation needed. You can’t call Loughner a right-winger. It’s been tried and failed. You think that right-wing terrorism matches the feats of the Weather Underground? Considering the incidents with eco groups like ELF are so common that they don’t even make news anymore, this is clearly absurd.

    You’ve got a problem, and you’re making yourself a problem for the rest of us, too. I’m glad that you’re on JimK’s radar now, though. I case I happen to miss when it happens, buh-bye.

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  14. Miguelito

    there’s the Sea Shepherds. There’s a group of terrorists with their own damn TV show.

    A group of them were part of the focus on one of the shows on the Japan earthquake on Science last week (I watched one on the earthquake and one on the Fukushima bits specifically) and they were simply described as something like, “a group that helps monitor fishing to make sure they’re not over-fished” or something. That’s mugoo’s “right wing” media in action there I guess.

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  15. JimK *

    Wow.

    I asked you a specific question. Are you alleging that 9/11 was planned and executed solely during the beginning of the 1st term of George W. Bush?

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  16. JimK *

    Nope. That does absolutely NOTHING to prove your statement. All he said was that given that we had Bush & Cheney, he would have preferred Cheney over Bush. That has not one fucking thing to do with all of RTFTLC collectively giving Bush a pass on Iraq.

    So prove what you said, that the RTFTLC community gave Bush a pass on Iraq. And you better give me specific quotes and links, because I have 200mb of data that prove you wrong in every fucking way someone can be wrong.

    You need to start backing your shit up or stop saying nonsense.

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  17. AlexInCT

    I still would be saying that Obama was right in calling for the mission. Besides, we have not had demcorats in charge long enough yet to ruin the military and make them as incompetent as they were under Carter, so Obama is going to be OK for at least the next 2 years too.

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  18. muirgeo

    No it wasn’t. I am suggesting that the Bush administration did not approach preventing attacks as seriously as the Clinton administration did. Richard Clarke was there and documents this very well.

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  19. muirgeo

    Jim,

    You are trying to take a position of nothing. Oh..you claim… I am not a Republican supporter and certainly NOT a democrat.” But your web site is called right thinking and YES I am generalizing when I compare right thinking to left thinking. But the bottom line is who do most of the people here vote for? Republicans or Democrats?

    Who ever you vote for… you OWN their policies as far as I am concerned.

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  20. sahrab

    Don’t even try to say credit is evenly deserved Dick Cheney…. I am sorry but put me down as one who is sickened by the likes of this man

    So much for the person who claimed they were interested in honest debate.

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  21. sahrab

    You are trying to take a position of nothing. Oh..you claim… I am not a Republican supporter and certainly NOT a democrat.” But your web site is called right thinking and YES I am generalizing when I compare right thinking to left thinking.

    And this is why your a dishonest cum dumpster. Rigth thinking (lean more towards conservative) than Left thinking (lean more towards liberal). You know this, its not even necessary to point it out. But to deflect your weak argument, you lump us in with the Republicans and attempt a “Gotcha”.

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  22. sahrab

    I am not calling anyone here specifically a Nazi or a terrorist but it’s a fact that right wing terrorism is more of a threa domestically then anything that comes from the left

    Selective and subjective.

    Andrew Joseph Stack III, the tard that flew his plane into the Austin IRS building was initially labeled a Right Wing Extremist, until it came out he was a smelly hippy (liberal).
    ALF – Liberal.
    Earth Liberation Front – Liberal.
    Weather Underground – John Kerry’s group (Bill Ayers) Liberal.
    Jared Lee Loughner, shot Senator Giffords, initially labeled a Rigt winger until it was discovered he was a lunatic leftist.
    Unabomber a friggin Luddite – Liberal

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